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The 2014 AFL National Draft

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  On 08/10/2014 at 02:04, Lamashtu said:

Is McCartin's diabetes any concern?

Seeing how Fitzpatrick also has diabetes, i'd say we would be able to appropriately look after it, having had experience with it in the past.

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      On 09/10/2014 at 11:50, spirit of norm smith said:

    pick 2 Petracca or if gone, then Brayshaw

    pick 3 Brayshaw or if used at #2, then Wright

    I am intrigued by this Lever kid as a midfielder.

    Could be another Bontempelli...

    If Saints go tall, it will be moot I would say but I am keen to get the two best mids in...

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    If we trade 3, leaving us 2, I wonder if Roos would pick Brayshaw over Petracca if both were available....

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    Caleb Daniels as a rookie?

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    Trade pick 2 and 23 for Danger, draft Brayshaw with pick 3

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      On 09/10/2014 at 23:08, juzzk1d said:

    Anyone here think Mcartin is still highly likely for St Kilda to get at number 1?

    I think he will be taken at pick 1.

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    It's always worthwhile coming back to this thread from time to time to see how certain players were looked upon at the start of the year before the draft manouevring began. With the regard to the Prospectus 25 some of them have already been taken as father/son or academy selections, some remain high on the radar and a couple have dropped off. Interesting.

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    We shall see whether that's true or not.

    There's class to be plucked at 2 and 3 - be it two midfielders (of Brayshaw, Petracca or Laverde) or grab a key position player (Wright or McCartin) - we're hopefully setting ourselves up with class.

    Just gotta develop em into afl players!

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    If St Kilda do take Petracca with pick 1, it wouldn't be a bad idea if we taken McCartin with pick 2.

    We have Hogan coming through, to add McCartin to that would be massive.

    We will have developing mids in Viney, Tyson, Salem, Brayshaw - and arguably Toumpas.

    MFC would have 2 bustling forwards, not just any type of forwards - but old school, bustling, dominate fowards.

    So I don't think it is the end of the world if St Kilda do take Petracca, they'll only be shooting themselves in the foot.

    Membry isn't going to solve their problems, he is a small forward and probably even better suited to a midfield role.

    Over the trade period we have seen how valuable forwards can be - with the Bullies parting with their captain and high draft picks just to get one.

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    Just reading the tea leaves here but I think we are really into Brayshaw which is why we cant get the deals done because we want to hold onto pick 2. I suspect if we had pick 1 it would be used on Brayshaw by Roos (he has mentored him this year as has Alistair Clarkson).

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      On 15/10/2014 at 21:57, KingDingAling said:

    If St Kilda do take Petracca with pick 1, it wouldn't be a bad idea if we taken McCartin with pick 2.

    We have Hogan coming through, to add McCartin to that would be massive.

    We will have developing mids in Viney, Tyson, Salem, Brayshaw - and arguably Toumpas.

    MFC would have 2 bustling forwards, not just any type of forwards - but old school, bustling, dominate fowards.

    So I don't think it is the end of the world if St Kilda do take Petracca, they'll only be shooting themselves in the foot.

    Membry isn't going to solve their problems, he is a small forward and probably even better suited to a midfield role.

    Over the trade period we have seen how valuable forwards can be - with the Bullies parting with their captain and high draft picks just to get one.

    I'm just worried that Both Wright and McCartin play on much smaller and lighter key position defenders in the TAC cup - inflating their true value (no flooding so only 1v1 contests, e.g. 203cm+102kg vs 190cm+80kg = not fair).

    What happens when they get put against players the same size as themselves? Will they excel or will they turn into a mediocre forward (Lucas Cook).

    The bonus is that they are both big and heavy already (nothing like Watts).

    The other issue i see is that dawes 193, hogan 194 and McCartin 194cm are all the same height, do we need a variety? I don't actually know.

    And Roos would take Heeney first i reckon if he had a choice of midfielders ;)

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    Still some talk that the Saints will take McCartin at 1.

    Pop quiz; who do we take with 2 and 3:

    1) Petracca and Brayshaw

    2) Brayshaw and Lever

    3) Petracca and Lever

    4) Any other combo

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      On 16/10/2014 at 02:24, CarnTheDees said:

    Still some talk that the Saints will take McCartin at 1.

    Pop quiz; who do we take with 2 and 3:

    1) Petracca and Brayshaw

    2) Brayshaw and Lever

    3) Petracca and Lever

    4) Any other combo

    4) Petracca and Leverde

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    Well, at least Taylor and his scouts haven't wasted the whole year now we have later picks.

    Another JKH surprise packet would be heaven.

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    Pick the 2nd and 3rd best mids in the draft class.

    Do that and you will have two very good players.

    I completely understand the desire not to 'reach' for players - but we have the 2nd and 3rd picks in the draft - we should be able to secure 2 fantastic mids.

    They should back themselves to know who they are. If it is Laverde or Lever plucked 'early' at ND3 then so be it.

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    I can see us taking either Petracca and Lever or Brayshaw and Lever.

    Cant see us taking both Petracca and Brayshaw due to the similarities.

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    Fingers crossed we get it right, the good Lord knows we've had enough chances in the past decade.

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    Don't rate McCartin at all, he is no where near Hogan's level & there's way more upside in Wright, who I'm still not totally sold on. Saints are said to have put a LOT of work into McCartin & are saying they'll take Petracca (Finey, SEN), so if that is indeed true & their need for talls is probably greater than ours, then we will likely pass on him also I reckon. I just want the best in terms of overall talent as a player at both picks & trust our footy dep to get it right, first time I've said that in a long time! Brayshaw & Lever the best 2 talents imo if Petracca is off the board.

    In an uncompromisd draft we'd be talking about Heeney & Moore too......

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