Bearthor

More power needs to be given to clubs around player movements. Given the recent trade deals for arguably lesser players at the same point in their respective careers (Jeremy Cameron), if we were to take anything less than let’s say WC #2 & 2023 1st Rd for LJ & 2023 2nd Rd we would be getting unders. Only three years in the system, this kid hasn’t even scratched the surface of his talent! Trading for only around/ less than what we gave to get him in the first place is a terrible outcome given the failure rates of draftees. It disappointing that the league took Mac Andrew from us last year with a strategically placed rule change, now we are perilously close to being shafted a second time within 12months!

Lumina needs to lift!

Didn't make the game today but listened to it on the radio. McDonald and Watts sounded poor, turnovers hurt but was there no pressure? seems like we thought it was a gimmie and we just aren't anywhere near a team that gets easy wins

Very similar to Pendles once he builds a tank. Parish reminds me of Toumpas

I agree they may just been really keen on someone that might have been picked up before pick 6 and maybe hopeful a good mid could slip through

Francis and Weideman for me, Francis can play anywhere and Weideman will make a solid partner to Hogan

Who's getting emotional? As they say something is only worth what someone is willing to pay, North were willing to pay #15 and we took #29! That's a massive discrepancy! Would have accepted an early 2nd rounder , #29, and Kennedy for Howe and Toumpas, anything less is a fail!

thoughts? 1/ J.Toumpas & Melbourne's 2016 2nd Rounder for Port Adelaide's 2016 1st Rounder 2/ J.Howe & Port Adelaide's 2016 1st Rounder for Collingwood's #7 of the above scenario the Port Adelaide side would be the hardest sell

we will finish with 5 or 6 wins which will leave us 2nd or 3rd off the bottom i think we will be above the lions on For and Against and the the Blue's to get the spoon

IMO the draft order will finish- 1st-Brisbane 2nd-Carlton 3rd-Melbourne Brisbane look set to take Schache (if they can't get Dixon via trade) and Carlton may yet take the best available mid, leaves us to snag Weitering then just need a CHF... Maybe Howe for Tomlinson has a great tank and a decent mark.. not to mention with a healthy GWS list sits behind Cameron, Patton and now McCarthy which has forced him to play in the backline to get a run

We can't move that many forwards on, the weekend showed we are lacking in that area. As much as Dawes isn't the end game for the Dees until Hogan has at least 50-75 games under his belt we need the mature body up front. In saying that Howe and Toumpas could offer value on the trade table

Do we want two full forwards? we need a CHF like a Gunston, somone who gets on their bike and has awareness not a Kosi and Riewoldt scenario where they run into each other every second week. For mine if our pick is outside the top 2 take Weideman who will probably be around the pick 9 mark so maybe offload the early 1st rounder for both a mid and a late 1st round pick

i have faith in the Toump! he's lacking confidence in his body and skills, but barring any further injuries that should come with game time. when he is on he fires darts right at the forwards face... Toumpas to Hogan!!! Goal!!!

Cross is a great example of what we want at the Dees, however i don't see him in our best next year bar injuries FB - Jetta, McDonald, Dunn CHB - Lumumba, Garland, Frost C - Watts, *Vince / Trengrove, Salem CHF - Kent , **Dawes , Howe FF - Garlett, Hogan, Petracca RUCK - Gawn, Jones , Brayshaw INT - Toumpas, Vandenberg, Tyson, Viney * Vince and Trengrove will provide the same service (goal kicking tagger) ** Dawes' position in the team as the sole KP at CHF needs attention

best available KPF for sure