Demon Disciple 12,536 Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 Is McCartin's diabetes any concern? Seeing how Fitzpatrick also has diabetes, i'd say we would be able to appropriately look after it, having had experience with it in the past. Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 pick 2 Petracca or if gone, then Brayshaw pick 3 Brayshaw or if used at #2, then Wright 1 Quote
rpfc 29,025 Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 pick 2 Petracca or if gone, then Brayshaw pick 3 Brayshaw or if used at #2, then Wright I am intrigued by this Lever kid as a midfielder. Could be another Bontempelli... If Saints go tall, it will be moot I would say but I am keen to get the two best mids in... Quote
Moonshadow 17,678 Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 If we trade 3, leaving us 2, I wonder if Roos would pick Brayshaw over Petracca if both were available.... Quote
Demon_JB 1,389 Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Anyone here think Mcartin is still highly likely for St Kilda to get at number 1? Quote
InVINCEable 358 Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Trade pick 2 and 23 for Danger, draft Brayshaw with pick 3 Quote
InVINCEable 358 Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Anyone here think Mcartin is still highly likely for St Kilda to get at number 1? I think he will be taken at pick 1. Quote
Whispering_Jack 31,368 Posted October 15, 2014 Author Posted October 15, 2014 It's always worthwhile coming back to this thread from time to time to see how certain players were looked upon at the start of the year before the draft manouevring began. With the regard to the Prospectus 25 some of them have already been taken as father/son or academy selections, some remain high on the radar and a couple have dropped off. Interesting. Quote
praha 11,267 Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Saints are going to take Petracca. http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/st-kilda-set-to-knock-back-offers-for-pick-1-with-christian-petracca-high-on-saints-draft-agenda/story-e6frf3e3-1227091487454 Quote
What 18,810 Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Saints are going to take Petracca. http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/st-kilda-set-to-knock-back-offers-for-pick-1-with-christian-petracca-high-on-saints-draft-agenda/story-e6frf3e3-1227091487454 just Pelchen playing mind games on the final day of trades Quote
whatwhat say what 23,854 Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 We shall see whether that's true or not. There's class to be plucked at 2 and 3 - be it two midfielders (of Brayshaw, Petracca or Laverde) or grab a key position player (Wright or McCartin) - we're hopefully setting ourselves up with class. Just gotta develop em into afl players! 1 Quote
KingDingAling 3,758 Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 If St Kilda do take Petracca with pick 1, it wouldn't be a bad idea if we taken McCartin with pick 2. We have Hogan coming through, to add McCartin to that would be massive. We will have developing mids in Viney, Tyson, Salem, Brayshaw - and arguably Toumpas. MFC would have 2 bustling forwards, not just any type of forwards - but old school, bustling, dominate fowards. So I don't think it is the end of the world if St Kilda do take Petracca, they'll only be shooting themselves in the foot. Membry isn't going to solve their problems, he is a small forward and probably even better suited to a midfield role. Over the trade period we have seen how valuable forwards can be - with the Bullies parting with their captain and high draft picks just to get one. Quote
Robbie57 2,042 Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Just reading the tea leaves here but I think we are really into Brayshaw which is why we cant get the deals done because we want to hold onto pick 2. I suspect if we had pick 1 it would be used on Brayshaw by Roos (he has mentored him this year as has Alistair Clarkson). Quote
Wunders 397 Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 If St Kilda do take Petracca with pick 1, it wouldn't be a bad idea if we taken McCartin with pick 2. We have Hogan coming through, to add McCartin to that would be massive. We will have developing mids in Viney, Tyson, Salem, Brayshaw - and arguably Toumpas. MFC would have 2 bustling forwards, not just any type of forwards - but old school, bustling, dominate fowards. So I don't think it is the end of the world if St Kilda do take Petracca, they'll only be shooting themselves in the foot. Membry isn't going to solve their problems, he is a small forward and probably even better suited to a midfield role. Over the trade period we have seen how valuable forwards can be - with the Bullies parting with their captain and high draft picks just to get one. I'm just worried that Both Wright and McCartin play on much smaller and lighter key position defenders in the TAC cup - inflating their true value (no flooding so only 1v1 contests, e.g. 203cm+102kg vs 190cm+80kg = not fair). What happens when they get put against players the same size as themselves? Will they excel or will they turn into a mediocre forward (Lucas Cook). The bonus is that they are both big and heavy already (nothing like Watts). The other issue i see is that dawes 193, hogan 194 and McCartin 194cm are all the same height, do we need a variety? I don't actually know. And Roos would take Heeney first i reckon if he had a choice of midfielders 1 Quote
CarnTheDees 52 Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Still some talk that the Saints will take McCartin at 1. Pop quiz; who do we take with 2 and 3: 1) Petracca and Brayshaw 2) Brayshaw and Lever 3) Petracca and Lever 4) Any other combo Quote
Bearthor 9 Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Still some talk that the Saints will take McCartin at 1. Pop quiz; who do we take with 2 and 3: 1) Petracca and Brayshaw 2) Brayshaw and Lever 3) Petracca and Lever 4) Any other combo 4) Petracca and Leverde Quote
SaberFang 7,151 Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Well, at least Taylor and his scouts haven't wasted the whole year now we have later picks. Another JKH surprise packet would be heaven. Quote
rpfc 29,025 Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Pick the 2nd and 3rd best mids in the draft class. Do that and you will have two very good players. I completely understand the desire not to 'reach' for players - but we have the 2nd and 3rd picks in the draft - we should be able to secure 2 fantastic mids. They should back themselves to know who they are. If it is Laverde or Lever plucked 'early' at ND3 then so be it. 2 Quote
olisik 4,060 Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 I can see us taking either Petracca and Lever or Brayshaw and Lever. Cant see us taking both Petracca and Brayshaw due to the similarities. Quote
#MYHEARTBEATSTRUE 27 Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 We should recruit Cale Morton for pick 115 in the ND 1 Quote
Tyson_Viney_Toumpas 269 Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 I want the two best mids we can, but we also still need another KPF. I expect we will also go a ruck with those later picks. Quote
Whispering_Jack 31,368 Posted October 17, 2014 Author Posted October 17, 2014 Paige Cardona's Phantom Draft has us taking Angus Brayshaw and Paddy McCartin with picks 2 and 3. She has Jake Lever going to GWS at pick 6 but I have a feeling that he will be a strong contender for our pick 3. Quote
gsmith12 491 Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 Fingers crossed we get it right, the good Lord knows we've had enough chances in the past decade. Quote
thevil1 421 Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 Don't rate McCartin at all, he is no where near Hogan's level & there's way more upside in Wright, who I'm still not totally sold on. Saints are said to have put a LOT of work into McCartin & are saying they'll take Petracca (Finey, SEN), so if that is indeed true & their need for talls is probably greater than ours, then we will likely pass on him also I reckon. I just want the best in terms of overall talent as a player at both picks & trust our footy dep to get it right, first time I've said that in a long time! Brayshaw & Lever the best 2 talents imo if Petracca is off the board. In an uncompromisd draft we'd be talking about Heeney & Moore too...... 1 Quote
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