Brad Miller joins Roos' coaching panel

[BAMF 4,305]

Brad knows his stuff regarding fitness. Was always pushing himself when training.

Great to have him as a development coach. I dont think people on here know what a development coach is, otherwise they surely couldn't be bagging the appointment. Or maybe they are just pea brains.

[deepete 27]

Miller! Like this news. He will go alright under Roos. Average player (Thought he was cool though) but a great player does not make a great coach. People seem to forget that sometimes.

[Chook 15,012]

He reeks of something that's for sure.

He was at the club for NINE years, and he cracked the top10 of the BnF ONCE, when came 7th in 2008. How can you be considered a good leader if you vastly underperform year in, year out.

"Underperform" is all relative. I suspect if you cracked the top ten of the BnF in your dreams you'd be over the moon. To actually do it in real life takes a level of commitment 99.9% of people don't have. Perhaps "leadership" is the ability for ordinary people to make extraordinary people out of themselves.

[sue 9,099]

He reeks of something that's for sure.

He was at the club for NINE years, and he cracked the top10 of the BnF ONCE, when came 7th in 2008. How can you be considered a good leader if you vastly underperform year in, year out.

At first I thought perhaps you were being ironic. But I fear you were not.

When someone with whom I find I frequently disagree expresses such an opinion, it boots my self-confidence. Thanks.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

He reeks of something that's for sure.

He was at the club for NINE years, and he cracked the top10 of the BnF ONCE, when came 7th in 2008. How can you be considered a good leader if you vastly underperform year in, year out.

So only finishing inside the top 10 of a BnF once means you will instantly be a rubbish coach? Sound reasoning that.

[dazzledavey36 54,343]

I remember when he started he had problems trying to curb his aggression. He was a very fiesty forward!

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

At first I thought perhaps you were being ironic. But I fear you were not.

When someone with whom I find I frequently disagree expresses such an opinion, it boots my self-confidence. Thanks.

and as usual you have nothing of substance to add whatsoever and instead focus on your opinion of other posters. Thanks for nothing.

Instead of making comments on other people, which if of zero interest yo anybody reading, do you want to have a crack at explaining how it is a good idea to bring people to the club with a history of failing the MFC, I would love to hear your expert opinion

[DemonOX 8,791]

If Roos thinks he is a good addition then I am all for it.

Remember guys and gals Roos is NOT an apprentice coach he knows what he is doing.

Makes a nice change actually.

[DemonOX 8,791]

I remember when he started he had problems trying to curb his aggression. He was a very fiesty forward!

Maybe can get some of that aggression into Watts.

[DeeMfc 621]

and as usual you have nothing of substance to add whatsoever and instead focus on your opinion of other posters. Thanks for nothing.

Instead of making comments on other people, which if of zero interest yo anybody reading, do you want to have a crack at explaining how it is a good idea to bring people to the club with a history of failing the MFC, I would love to hear your expert opinion

Firstly Miller never failed the MFC. He was highly professional with his training standards and effort. 120 goals in 157 games is not a bad return for a player who spent plenty of time up the ground and in defence. Add this to the fact that in his last few years we were accused of not trying to kick goals........

Failing the club means he didn't put in 100% effort and this does not describe Miller.

If anything, what hindsight has taught us is that the club has in fact failed some of our recruits.

Thank god Roos and co. are here to change this.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

Failing the club means he didn't put in 100% effort and this does not describe Miller.

this is garbage. Anybody can put in effort. We need people putting in effort and getting results from those efforts.

how can you say 'not a bad return' again, nine seasons, one bnf top ten finish

[Guest]

One thing that I find puzzling about you C&B is that you were as frustrated as anyone with the old regime but you seem to defend all their decisions and positions, no matter how moronic they were....

[Cheesy D. Pun 1,762]

There are really no grounds upon which to be positive or negative about this appointment. Having said that, I do remember Roos trying to get Miller to Sydney on at least one occasion, so he obviously saw some use for him as a player or leader.

Also, the expectation that Brad should have been more than a 157 game player is a little harsh. He carved out a career after being a relatively low draft pick (pick 51?) so I take my hat off to him - not a star nor a dud.

[DeeMfc 621]

this is garbage. Anybody can put in effort. We need people putting in effort and getting results from those efforts.

how can you say 'not a bad return' again, nine seasons, one bnf top ten finish

Garbage... Gee thanks.

Failing someone or something is because you didn't put in the required effort or heart.

Personal results have nothing to do with failing the club.

Miller gave 100%. 100% of the time.

Miller was no star but he did not fail the club.

Results have no bearing on failing the club.

Failing to live up to expectations is a completely different story. What was Miller drafted at anyway? I know it was later in the draft.

For the above post I give you 2 FAILS

1. For not understanding what you wrote yourself.

2. For thinking that playing results have anything at all to do with leadership and coaching ability.

Now step back before you make even more of a fool of yourself.....

For the record I'm neutral on this appointment. WAClarks post above explains it in the correct light.

Edited September 23, 2013 by DeeMfc

[Dr. Gonzo 24,197]

Geez, that game he played as a defender on Barry Hall must have really left an impression/scarred Roos for life.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

One thing that I find puzzling about you C&B is that you were as frustrated as anyone with the old regime but you seem to defend all their decisions and positions, no matter how moronic they were....

wtf r u talking about I have never defended a thing

[Machsy 2,858]

I just love how no one outside the club had any idea this was coming.

Not a whisper.

Quite pleased with Brad coming back into the fold.

Might not have always been a smart footballer per se, but his work ethic was second to none.

Also is quite an intelligent bloke, and coaching and match analysis is very different to in-game footy smarts.

And he's only a development FCS!

He hasn't been annointed the "successor"!

[Bay Riffin 1,473]

He played more games than Ross Lyon and Alistair Clarkson who are coaching this year GF sides.

How can people judge till he gets here as a coach?

its like people assume blokes like Cameron ling are montys to be great coaches, despite zero evidence. You never know till they have had the chance.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

Garbage... Gee thanks.

Failing someone or something is because you didn't put in the required effort or heart.

Personal results have nothing to do with failing the club.

Miller gave 100%. 100% of the time.

Miller was no star but he did not fail the club.

Results have no bearing on failing the club.

Failing to live up to expectations is a completely different story. What was Miller drafted at anyway? I know it was later in the draft.

For the above post I give you 2 FAILS

1. For not understanding what you wrote yourself.

2. For thinking that playing results have anything at all to do with leadership and coaching ability.

Now step back before you make even more of a fool of yourself.....

You are living in a fantasy world, the world of children's books that say 'try your best and you can achieve anything'

the real world insists that in order to win it is not good enough to just try

unless of course you enjoy have an ineffective CHF for nine years and the club winning one final in that time

if that that type of effort/result is good enough for you, you must love being a melbourne supporter. Personally I can't stand it.

For thinking that playing results have anything at all to do with leadership and coaching ability.

yeah OK so that's why Voss, Buckley and Hird were all made senior coaches of the clubs they captained. Paul Roos was 7 time all-australian. He has a history of achievement and that's why we are so pumped to have him at the club. Miller is the exact opposite. There is obviously a huge relationship between what you did on the field and what you can do in the box.

Edited September 23, 2013 by Curry & Beer

[Dees2014 2,377]

I don't know how to react to this to be honest.

I'm happy that blokes who were burnt in years past are making peace with the club. (Though I didn't mind Millsy being moved on. He had been at the club for 8-9 years and wasn't going to get any better. People did say though he had leadership ability. It was just when Junior was given his marching orders that our clean out of club leaders was complete).

I'm nervous about former club employees coming back as we all saw how that ended up last time.

I will trust that Roos has done this for the best of reasons (i.e. he is the best man for the job).

I think there are advantages in having a mix of former demon players and outsiders as coaches, especially if they have extensive finals experience as Miller clearly does. He was always regarded as being a great club man, amply demonstrated in the dignified way he left the club, and was always seen as having a good football brain.

I agree with the other posting that compared him to Dawes - an apt description I think. A good acquisition IMO

[DeeSpencer 25,498]

Couldn't mark, couldn't kick and wasn't all that fast but he rocked up every week and did play some very good games. And was in the leadership group even when he was in the reserves. He'll be a thorough and hard working coach and teach guys how to prepare themselves. He'll also know how to deal with disappointment.

He also went to Richmond where he didn't really improve much as a player but he led the way for some young tigers to play some very good football.

It's also nice to bring back people who have left the club maybe not under ideal circumstances. It shows Miller doesn't hold a grudge and wants to help out.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

Geez, that game he played as a defender on Barry Hall must have really left an impression/scarred Roos for life.

and hypnotised everybody in the MFC community enough for him to dine out on it for years afterwards while doing nothing

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

He'll also know how to deal with disappointment.

LOL congratulations the finest comment yet. If you were a loser of a player, come to Melbourne to coach our losers.

[DeeSpencer 25,498]

For thinking that playing results have anything at all to do with leadership and coaching ability.

yeah OK so that's why Voss, Buckley and Hird were all made senior captains of the clubs they coached. Paul Roos was 7 time all-australian. He has a history of achievement and that's why we are so pumped to have him at the club. Miller is the exact opposite. There is obviously a huge relationship between what you did on the field and what you can do in the box.

Voss - out of a job

Hird - suspended a year and his clubs a disgrace

Buckley - hasn't achieved anything

Yet we look at the grand final this week

Lyon - journeyman player

Clarkson - best thing he ever did on the field was belt a bloke at a London trial game

You seem to think that if we load up on successful players as coaches then that will just bring success. That's not true at all. We need hard working and committed people to bring a culture of hard work and if they are skilled at their jobs then success will come. It's also a lot of anger for a development coaching role when Miller still has a huge gap in playing career than Greaves, Nicholls and Satterley.

[CHAMP 347]

Were you expecting Leigh Matthews or something? I was surprised too, but these development coach positions all seem to be filled by low profile/inexperienced coaches. What say we give the bloke a chance before we pan him, given that being the best player has never been a prerequisite for being a good coach.

Not exclusively, a notable exception was the appointment of veteran/ inveterate Assistant, Brian Royal, by St Kilda for the single 2010 season.

Of course, in desperate need of an experienced, high-calibre Line Coach, our club lured him back for a second stint.