I don't see us playing Jolly and Jamar together unless Clarks foot is no good, Clark is a high quality ruckman as well as forward so the only way the Jolly thing could work is if he comes on board as a playing coach to help the culture shift, again he'll cost nothing, provide some on and off field experience and all of that,

i would have been looking to trade Jamar anyway personally.

  On 15/09/2013 at 04:37, DemonOX said:

I thought we needed midfielders, midfielders and more midfielders.

Maybe I was wrong!

Well a ruckman starts in the middle of the field, so we could run an argument that he is a mid-fielder.....

  On 16/09/2013 at 00:22, pm24 said:

Well a ruckman starts in the middle of the field, so we could run an argument that he is a mid-fielder.....

Correct, and we have been playing one midfielder down for the last few years. It's why I would prefer to see Clark in the ruck, but whoever it is they need to make a contribution and not just in ruck contests.

How about doing what the Pies did with Hudson and putting Jolly on the Rookie list, then we will find out if he really wants to go round again.

Make him earn his spot.

I watched the Collingwood Port Melbourne game the other week, jolly looked past it. Hudson looked the far better player.

Indictment on Jamar that the post-prime Jolly is considered.

Should go with just Gawn & Fitz IMO

  On 16/09/2013 at 01:18, CatFishPig said:

How about doing what the Pies did with Hudson and putting Jolly on the Rookie list, then we will find out if he really wants to go round again.

Make him earn his spot.

I watched the Collingwood Port Melbourne game the other week, jolly looked past it. Hudson looked the far better player.

agreed with huddo,looked the better at senior level when he was there.

  On 15/09/2013 at 22:26, UTAH said:

Jeez some people have thin skin. Jolly wrote an article explaining why he left Melbourne. Daniher didn't play him and didn't have much time for him. So he moved on.

What am I missing here?

don't say anything like honesty about any favourites. its a led zeppelin argument.

Despite the lack of success with our mature-age recruits last year, I am generally all for it as long as they are on one-year contracts. We should be looking at given a lifeline to players like Cross, Chapman, Tuck, Lovett-Murray and O'Hailpin because they will typically provide better output than a late draft pick and come at no cost.

In saying that, I think Jolly is cooked and we would be better off getting games into Gawn and Spencer.

I hope they're interviewing him for the part-time ruck coaching role

So we go and dump an All Australian ruckman for Jolly a guy who has been passed around 3 clubs?

Don't get me wrong i would love to have him as a Ruck Coach and a player who can bring premiership experience to our club.

If Paul Roos was not coach and new coach x was talking about picking up Jolly particularly after the fantastic success of our mature age players this year he would be howled down on this site.

I dont think its a good idea unless it is a Ben Hudson set up and it is clear he is there as absolute back up and to mentor and nothing more.

  On 16/09/2013 at 03:22, big_red_fire_engine said:

If Paul Roos was not coach and new coach x was talking about picking up Jolly particularly after the fantastic success of our mature age players this year he would be howled down on this site.

I dont think its a good idea unless it is a Ben Hudson set up and it is clear he is there as absolute back up and to mentor and nothing more.

I agree put him on our rookie list and use him as a last resort as well as being a our ruck coach, he could also help develop guys like Spencer and Gawn.

  On 16/09/2013 at 02:33, thedeeman said:

So we go and dump an All Australian ruckman for Jolly a guy who has been passed around 3 clubs?

Don't get me wrong i would love to have him as a Ruck Coach and a player who can bring premiership experience to our club.

In all fairness he did choose to leave Melbourne and Sydney.

  On 16/09/2013 at 02:33, thedeeman said:

So we go and dump an All Australian ruckman for Jolly a guy who has been passed around 3 clubs?

Jolly left both Melbourne and Sydney of his own volition. He wasn't pushed out in either case.

As for Jamar being All Australian - that was some years back, and he's been anything but since.

  On 16/09/2013 at 02:33, thedeeman said:

So we go and dump an All Australian ruckman for Jolly a guy who has been passed around 3 clubs?

Don't get me wrong i would love to have him as a Ruck Coach and a player who can bring premiership experience to our club.

I think I'll see your AA and raise you 2 prems !!

What's Troy Simmonds doing these days?

Jolly ... no ... his body is cactus

  On 15/09/2013 at 03:22, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

Jolly may well be a demon in 2014.

Jamar may not be a demon in 2014.

Damien Barrett will definitely still be a [censored] in 2014

100% Correct

Don't demean the term All Australian by mentioning it in the same sentence as Mark Jamar.

  On 16/09/2013 at 02:04, Roger Mellie said:

I hope they're interviewing him for the part-time ruck coaching role

Agreed. About all he is really useful for ATM. Good player in his prime, but it's over.

I'd take dusty over jolly and that's saying something...

My sources tell me jolly is a massive chance to be playing for us next year he has been told by Roos that he is what they are looking for

  On 18/09/2013 at 16:11, wattsup said:

My sources tell me jolly is a massive chance to be playing for us next year he has been told by Roos that he is what they are looking for

And what are we looking for from him?

No idea just saying what I was told but it is a playing role