The difference is just mind blowing

[Soidee 1,496]

As supporters of the MFC we now understand what it is like to have A Graders running our club. Getting your head around the capability of PJ versus what we have been served up prior to him is just massive. I know there is a long way to go but this news has brought me out of the football doldrums.

The presence of Roos, PJ and Bartlett today was just awesome and HOPE is firmly back on the agenda.

With all due respect to the great Jimmy Stynes - the door is now closed on a horrible horrible past.

Bring it on!!

[dee-luded 2,959]

As supporters of the MFC we now understand what it is like to have A Graders running our club. Getting your head around the capability of PJ versus what we have been served up prior to him is just massive. I know there is a long way to go but this news has brought me out of the football doldrums.

The presence of Roos, PJ and Bartlett today was just awesome and HOPE is firmly back on the agenda.

With all due respect to the great Jimmy Stynes - the door is now closed on a horrible horrible past.

Bring it on!!

Your right 'Soidee', we haven't had this sort of strong off field leadership since the mid to late 80's... that was the last time we were able to recruit established A graders.

[Moonshadow 17,678]

Now time to have a number of A grade players. IMO we currently have none.

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

The change in CEO's, in terms of club build, is astonishing.

I have been a notorious Scwab hater since day one (my post history supports this) and PJ has shown in 3 months (if even) what a real CEO can/should bloody do. Gosh it irritates me that we we wasted time with a historical driven muppet. I understand Scwab did some good but come on, this is now like comparing Arnold Schwarzennegar to Dolph Lungren. (Spelling excused).

[Deestar3 167]

Why such a negative comment moonshadow! Don't for one minute these "A" grade off field people don't see a lot to like about this team . I am extremely sure that by the end of the first year of roos & co tenure we will see some emerging "A" graders & they will be from current personnel !

[DeeZee 7,445]

Viney and hogan will developinto A graders

[Macca 17,113]

I like the 2 (3?) year appointment and I like the idea of a possible succession plan. Roos can re-build the list and he can help instil a great culture. We're coming from a long way back and if he can get us to a viable and relevant position within 3 years (say 11-12 wins) then he'll have done marvellously well. Anything above that would be a bonus.

Whether Roos stays on after 2 or 3 years remains to be seen. We really are a special case and comparisons with Port Adelaide could be made but I'm not so sure. We have a poor list and a lot of our players are really low on confidence. It's a mammoth task to get this list to play winning football on a consistent basis. Many on our list have only experienced heavy losses so the mindset needs to be fixed - Roos can do that.

The biggest change that could have an immediate impact is the level of AFL assistance we might get. Roos can help get some talented footballers (midfielders) to the club as well (obviously our needs are immediate)

Roos might get us to be a 7 or 8 win team almost immediately but the improvement from there could be slow or we might even stall on that amount of wins. However, if we were able to inject the list with quality players in the next 2 off seasons, we could take a leap to 11-12 wins in his 2nd year at the helm. That is a big ask but you never know. I'd like to see the club bring in 3 'ready to go' midfielders for next year who can play. I'm almost expecting that to happen now that Roos has been appointed.

A great coach can get 7 or 8 wins out of an fair/average list. So we'll need to bring a number of good footballers into the club in the next few months to get to that fair/average standard. It's entirely possible (especially with free agency and with some extra 'assistance' from the AFL)

We've now got some real hope

[Guest]

If nothing else, we are in for a hell of a ride. Starting with the off season. Our coaching appointments followed by trading and drafting will provide an exciting summer.

[What 18,810]

Jack Trengove is an A grader waiting to be unleashed, and now we will have the tools to get him there

James Frawley is an A grade defender already

i will back in Roos and his support staff to turn Hogan, Viney and Toumpas into A graders

[DemonFrog 1,359]

Now all I want for next Christmas is a Premiership!

:blink:

[robbiefrom13 894]

Roos might get us to be a 7 or 8 win team almost immediately but the improvement from there could be slow or we might even stall on that amount of wins. However, if we were able to inject the list with quality players in the next 2 off seasons, we could take a leap to 11-12 wins in his 2nd year at the helm. That is a big ask but you never know. I'd like to see the club bring in 3 'ready to go' midfielders for next year who can play. I'm almost expecting that to happen now that Roos has been appointed.

A great coach can get 7 or 8 wins out of an fair/average list. So we'll need to bring a number of good footballers into the club in the next few months to get to that fair/average standard. It's entirely possible (especially with free agency and with some extra 'assistance' from the AFL)

Why are posters setting out predictions placing limits on what's going to happen? Why the half-empty insistences? What for?

I for one have a ticket to this ride, and I am excited to believe anything can happen. No pre-conceptions - it's all new and every weakness is now under capable care.

I am going to love watching this, seeing what our players really can do. Roos will remind them with inarguable logic and in inarguable sincerity of what they can do, based on their shared experience from the time when he was coaching Sydney. He is a proven builder of men and culture and enduring good things. We have now entered the time when belief is going to come to the fore at the Melbourne footy club. Who knows what will emerge? The bus-[censored] is over!

[DemonFrog 1,359]

Here we are we found it!

[640MD 3,491]

When RDB came home there was plenty of hype and hope, we only got 2/3rds of the way up

Better looking up the way we can go than living and dwelling on the cellar position now.

But tempered optimism, the last few years demand it, But it should be a much better trip. !

[Moonshadow 17,678]

Why such a negative comment moonshadow! Don't for one minute these "A" grade off field people don't see a lot to like about this team . I am extremely sure that by the end of the first year of roos & co tenure we will see some emerging "A" graders & they will be from current personnel !

Not negative at all DS3. Stating the obvious - we have no A graders and desperately need some. Great to have them off field, but off-field people do not kick the real goals that win matches. For too long we've been tweaking the pretty cafe latté art on the top of the coffee when the coffee itself is undrinkable.

[Macca 17,113]

Why are posters setting out predictions placing limits on what's going to happen? Why the half-empty insistences? What for?

I for one have a ticket to this ride, and I am excited to believe anything can happen. No pre-conceptions - it's all new and every weakness is now under capable care.

I am going to love watching this, seeing what our players really can do. Roos will remind them with inarguable logic and in inarguable sincerity of what they can do, based on their shared experience from the time when he was coaching Sydney. He is a proven builder of men and culture and enduring good things. We have now entered the time when belief is going to come to the fore at the Melbourne footy club. Who knows what will emerge? The bus-[censored] is over!

Just trying to keep it real. Thought I was being rather optimistic anyway ... 11-12 wins in 2015 is quite a quantum leap from where we are right now. Many things will need to fall into place for that to happen.

We're not going anywhere special as a team unless we get an influx of a number of very good footballers. Paul will know this and hopefully he's got an eye on a number of recruits. Roos might only get 7 or 8 wins out of this list next year unless something dramatic happens. That dramatic happening could occur of course, and I hope it does. However, the aberration in sport should nearly always be ignored.

In this thread, Paul Roos' team for next year, Paul can only find room for 13 definite starters from our existing list. I tend to agree with him - we've got a lot of work to do to bring this list up to scratch.

And besides, isn't 'speculating' on what might happen in the future par for the course on these forums? What are we supposed to say and do? A 'no limits' attitude is fine and dandy, but unfortunately we're hamstrung by the laws of the National Draft and the Salary cap as to how much a club can progress in any given year.

In a perfect world we'd bring in 10 'A' grade midfielders for next year. The reality is that bringing in 2 or 3 'A' grade midfielders is more of a realistic aim - and that would be a big step up.

I'm ecstatic with the Roos appointment but he's no miracle worker. We need lots of quality players and we need them now. I can see another 12-13 players being let go in the next few months (15 went last year) Contracts won't save some either - Martin, Morton and Gysberts were all contracted to our club for season 2013 (before they were traded)

[robbiefrom13 894]

ok

[La Dee-vina Comedia 17,015]

Is it reasonable to conclude that teams that don't have A-grade off-field talent don't have it on-field either? I've posted before that I can't believe that there was not the potential of an A-grade player in the last 100 or so we've drafted. Both Watts and Trengove were considered by the market prior to their drafting as being premium talent. Perhaps now with an A-grade CEO and an A-grade coach we'll see which players are actually A-grade.