Roosy will be so confused about what to affectionately call him.

Roosy will be so confused about what to affectionately call him.

Michine, King Viv, Michelle knowing our luck with developing players or Nothing (as we may not get him)

Vivsy.

Roosy will be so confused about what to affectionately call him.

Melbourne Football Club's 2014 Brownlow Medalist.

Bit of a mouthful.

Melbourne Football Club's 2014 Brownlow Medalist.

Bit of a mouthful.

Now that is the definition of wishful thinking

Now that is the definition of wishful thinking

The sad thing is it is possible.

Look at the hype going over Tom Boyd who's played no AFL games. Michie at least has played 1! But they hype is over the WAFL form and under 18 form and the three years is misleading as he didn't get on the park for the entire first two years.

I can't see your logic in comparing Michie with Boyd. Boyd is 18, has not already been recruited to AFL ranks, has been a standout TAC player, has been nominated by all and sundry as the 'top pick' in this year's draft.

Michie has been on Freo's list for 3 years, has managed 1 game and has sustained injuries.

I know which one I'd be drafting, given the chance, and his initials are not VM.

We would all do well to remember that anyone who claims to have a source is wrong 90% of the time. Especially if they cannot/will not name them. FWIW I think we may have Michie my old boss actually works at Freo as a trainer and he seems to think that Michie is coming to us. However I wouldn't get my hopes up as nothing has been confirmed and there is still a lot of work to be done on this particular deal and others that the MFC are currently working on.

But you have to also remember that 90% of discussions and proposals etc between the actual clubs don't come to fruition.

For example any poster who came here and said Rockliff for pick 2 is in the works is technically right - as it has been confirmed we were chasing him. Just because we won't land him doesn't mean the discussions never took place.

I can't see your logic in comparing Michie with Boyd. Boyd is 18, has not already been recruited to AFL ranks, has been a standout TAC player, has been nominated by all and sundry as the 'top pick' in this year's draft.

Michie has been on Freo's list for 3 years, has managed 1 game and has sustained injuries.

I know which one I'd be drafting, given the chance, and his initials are not VM.

Well your question is why does everyone rate Michie considering he's only played 1 AFL game. My argument is why does everyone rate Boyd. Boyd's had injuries as well.

Michie was a quality TAC and under 18 champ performer, not to the level of Boyd of course. And his WAFL form was sensation. And he's played under Ross Lyon who doesn't give chances to kids easily.

We (Demonland) are talking about potentially trading pick 40 or so for this guy and think he can contribute. If GWS will accept a trade of pick 40 for pick 1 to allow us to get Boyd then that's fine by me.

I'd rather us invest time into Michie than throw away picks on Vince.

But you have to also remember that 90% of discussions and proposals etc between the actual clubs don't come to fruition.

For example any poster who came here and said Rockliff for pick 2 is in the works is technically right - as it has been confirmed we were chasing him. Just because we won't land him doesn't mean the discussions never took place.

Rockliff would be our best result possible... Possibility even better than Shiel.

Rocky is an impressive leader, he is EXACTLY what the MFC needs right now.

I don't believe no-one wants to come here, I just think it's early.

Players would know that Paul Roos isn't in the business of failing.

Someone needs to ask Josh Mahoney about Viv

I can't see your logic in comparing Michie with Boyd. Boyd is 18, has not already been recruited to AFL ranks, has been a standout TAC player, has been nominated by all and sundry as the 'top pick' in this year's draft.

Michie has been on Freo's list for 3 years, has managed 1 game and has sustained injuries.

I know which one I'd be drafting, given the chance, and his initials are not VM.

Get over it mate, its not rocket science, young players like this are valued because of their potential. It may not be realised yet but the potential is there based on the fact he has had a good junior career and in the 1 season he has been healthy showed dominant form in WAFL. Now I am not saying that means he is going to be a gun by any means, but you dont have to be Einstein to figure out why people are excited.

Its the nature of Sport, the power of potential always excites.

I'd rather us invest time into Michie than throw away picks on Vince.

So you would rather give away a pick for a bloke who is unproven at AFL level and ignore a bloke who has shown that he CAN get it done at AFL level? Smart thinking...

Get over it mate, its not rocket science, young players like this are valued because of their potential. It may not be realised yet but the potential is there based on the fact he has had a good junior career and in the 1 season he has been healthy showed dominant form in WAFL. Now I am not saying that means he is going to be a gun by any means, but you dont have to be Einstein to figure out why people are excited.

Its the nature of Sport, the power of potential always excites.

I'm certainly not Einstein, but I'm not totally stupid, either. Having said that I can't for the life of me see why people are getting excited about young Michie. Shuey, Rockliff, Shiel, on the other hand, would generate real excitement.

Our list is clogged with young players with 'potential' who, for one reason or another, have not gone anywhere near realising that potential.

If we can get Michie without paying 'overs', then go for it. He might be worth the risk - bad history of injuries plus only 1 previous AFL game. Dominant form in the WAFL is good, but it is not AFL by a long stretch.

I would imagine that players of the Michie ilk could not be expected to lift us dramatically from near the bottom of the ladder into a consistently competitive side.

In the meantime I'll wait until we land a 'bigger fish before I get too excited.

Do people see michie, Vince and Lyon, cross and Dylan shiel as a successful trade period?

If we don't get Michie I'll spew up, I'm sick of getting below star class players.

Nope, knee issues .. "Caveat Emptor"

Nope, knee issues .. "Caveat Emptor"

We're not buying him only renting for a few years.

I would imagine that players of the Michie ilk could not be expected to lift us dramatically from near the bottom of the ladder into a consistently competitive side.

No single player of any ilk is going to lift us dramatically from near the bottom of the ladder.

Nope, knee issues .. "Caveat Emptor"

^this guy.

Do people see michie, Vince and Lyon, cross and Dylan shiel as a successful trade period?

Shiel alone would make it a successful trade period

Do people see michie, Vince and Lyon, cross and Dylan shiel as a successful trade period?

Bang! There it is. That's a sensational trade period for a team that needs midfield grunt. With the bookends we have we don't need a superstar midfield, we just need to go close to breaking even. If that happens next year we'll win 8-10 games and then you'll see a fist full of midfielders wanting to jump onboard.

What I'd be doing right now though is taking names of those saying no, and take great pride in telling them in 12 months time that they can jam it where it counts.

Ask me in three years if this was a successful trade period.

Ask me in three years if this was a successful trade period.

Stop being so pragmatic. Where's the guy who was talking premierships earlier today?