How many coaches get killed by this list?

[jnrmac 20,097]

I would love him back.

Runs harder than anyone we have.

Yep we could really do with $cully's 6 kicks a week.. He'd fit right in with 80% of our team.

[ThreeOneSix 954]

Yep we could really do with $cully's 6 kicks a week.. He'd fit right in with 80% of our team.

He'd be our second best midfielder by a space this year.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,808]

Turning it the other way around. How many coaches has someone like Nathan Jones had in his time at the club?

Daniher, Riley, Bailey, Viney, Neeld, Craig. That's 6 coaches (unless I missed someone) for about 150+ games. Hardly gives the players a chance to put into practice one set of expectations before they have to unlearn one gameplan and learn a new one. Perhaps it's not entirely the fault of the players.

[Mongrel Dee 56]

Turning it the other way around. How many coaches has someone like Nathan Jones had in his time at the club?

Daniher, Riley, Bailey, Viney, Neeld, Craig. That's 6 coaches (unless I missed someone) for about 150+ games. Hardly gives the players a chance to put into practice one set of expectations before they have to unlearn one gameplan and learn a new one. Perhaps it's not entirely the fault of the players.

Not entirely the players fault BUT the players at this club need to hang their heads in shame. Dismal pathetic football at this level, and to get only 2 inside 50's in a half is D grade. Honestly I could get 18 players from the burbs without a match day coach and achieve better than that. This group are shocking at their football application.

[Undeeterred 3,124]

I see your point, but of the 49 players who were on our list in 2009, there are only 13 left (Jones, Watts, Frawley, Sylvia, Dunn, Grimes, Garland, Davey, Jetta, Jamar, Bail, Spencer, McKenzie). That's 26%.

That does raise another point, though. I can't imagine many people in 2009 would have thought that we'd turnover 3/4 of our list by 2013. Shows you just how poor player/list management/development has been at this club.

I see your point, but of the 49 players who were on our list in 2009, there are only 13 left (Jones, Watts, Frawley, Sylvia, Dunn, Grimes, Garland, Davey, Jetta, Jamar, Bail, Spencer, McKenzie). That's 26%.

That does raise another point, though. I can't imagine many people in 2009 would have thought that we'd turnover 3/4 of our list by 2013. Shows you just how poor player/list management/development has been at this club.

And I can name 7 of that bunch who won't, or shouldn't be here next year, too.

[Undeeterred 3,124]

and that equates to 13 mentally fragile links in the chain. Neeld tried to Blast it out, but it didn't work.

Our list freezes under pressure, no matter how well they train. They are cooked.

I hate it as a financial member of this club but it is the truth.

2 inside 50's in a first quarter. That is not Neil Craig. That is a mentally shot group of players.

Sorry, but you seem to be saying in your first two posts that Watts, Frawley, Garland, Grimes, Sylvia and Jones should go because they played in the Geelong game.

That's probably the most mental thing you've said on this forum.

[Sir Why You Little 37,046]

Sorry, but you seem to be saying in your first two posts that Watts, Frawley, Garland, Grimes, Sylvia and Jones should go because they played in the Geelong game.

That's probably the most mental thing you've said on this forum.

Well let's see how many of them survive here under a real coach shall we...?

[Undeeterred 3,124]

Well let's see how many of them survive here under a real coach shall we...?

Oh dear.

[Sir Why You Little 37,046]

Oh dear.

Toughen up mate. Jones & Garland are the only 2 out of that bunch who have earnt their contract this year, if you can be totally honest.

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,602]

The list is devoid of personality and strong leadership added with a culture accepting mediocrity. I've never seen a hard Melbourne team in my long years supporting the club. We need to build an entirely nee engine all from scratch as a club that no one would want to go to.

doesn't bode well.

[Bobby McKenzie 2,385]

Even the ones who came after that are mental.

Q for those in the know. Do we employ any sort of psychologist? I know they had a "Mental Skills Coach" last year but he's disappeared now.

I have already suggested Ivan Lendl for the mental toughness component but, can we afford him?