Would we swap pick 2 for 2 mid first round picks eg collingwoods first and the pick they get as compo for Thomas?? I would prolly do that trade. Freeman couch and dunstan/hartung at 20 midfield fixed

I'd trade pick 22 for Heath Shaw and pick 10.

Would we swap pick 2 for 2 mid first round picks eg collingwoods first and the pick they get as compo for Thomas?? I would prolly do that trade. Freeman couch and dunstan/hartung at 20 midfield fixed

Daisy failed his Carlton medical.

I'd trade pick 22 for Heath Shaw and pick 10.

Let that Joffa bloke take over their list management department for a day and I'm sure they'd take that. He'd be thinking it's a pretty sweet deal too.

I'd trade pick 22 for Heath Shaw and pick 10.

If Only they had bp in charge of list management

Frankly, I'm happy to downgrade picks if it means we resist the temptation of Aish; I can't deal with another 70kg 'project' mid. Would rather pick a few players later and get a solid, established player (maybe Shaw, maybe not) as well.

You can assume one of Crouch, Bontemptelli, Freeman or Sheed will still be there come pick 10.

Can't deal with this sort of build again

I'm a tad unsettled about the lack of love for Mitch Clark atm.

Trade? Mitch? The only player who gave us all a glimmer of hope last year? The most feared player on the field?

Okay he's injured, but it'll all come good.

I, for one, cannot wait for his return.

Can't deal with this sort of build again

He's got bigger guns than Gysberts.

Already the shoulders are heavily strapped due to non existing deltoids. Yeah we cannot afford to take on another one of these skinny lads.

I for one hope we just go for experience and matured bodies. We have no hard nuts in the list anymore.

And finally, lets not forget the value that pick 10 still has. As a complete hypothetical, say you're trading pick 2 (Aish) for someone like Shaw and pick 10 for maybe Vince and Mackay.

Three spots in your best 22 for an 18 year old kid who could be yet another flop... Worth thinking about.

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2013-09-30/were-open-to-trading-pick-no2-mahoney new article up on the site

Can't deal with this sort of build again

Glad someone else finally agrees with me!

The Aish debate will be a non issue in a few weeks as I don't think we'll have pick 2 come draft time.

And for the record while I understand the worries re: Aish and his size, but the kid will be a seriously good player and I'd be stoked if we had him on our list.

I for one aren't as concerned about his size or lack of it. I'm sure that the club will be looking into his shoulder issues if he has any and will have a better weights program than the previous few years. I am sure the club have learnt from previous mistakes in Gysberts and Morton. In saying that I don't believe we will still be in possession of pick 2 come draft time.

Just heard on sen melbourne haven't ruled out dustin Martin and there are 3-4 players melbourne think are worthy of pick 2

Let's be clear about a few things.

First of all, this whole Shaw and 10 for pick 2 thing is absolute nonsense. It's nothing but a speculative piece of garbage written by Jay Clark, who knows nothing about football. There is no way in hell that any side, from Melbourne to Hawthorn, thinks Heath Shaw is worth that much. Not one.

Secondly, this talk of trading Clark to Fremantle is insanity. Clark showed at his peak last year that he can be a totally dominant FF. We can't just put the burden on Hogan to be a star from Round 1, and we need to make sure we have the leadership and direction in the forward line to help Hogan develop. Clark is integral to our push up the ladder. He goes nowhere.

Just heard on sen melbourne haven't ruled out dustin Martin and there are 3-4 players melbourne think are worthy of pick 2

I think we can forget about Dustin Martin I believe his resigning will be announced at the Richmond Best and Fairest this evening

There is less than 0% chance we will trade Clark.

Get off the drugs people.

Old man and Carr were having dinner with dodoro and Goodwin from essendon last night, hardly a good sign for BnF tonight..

I thought the key to Roos recycling players was he was getting them on the cheap.

actually I think it runs deeper than that.

he seems to get players who have talent but struggled with their former clubs, & have been devalued & dispirited by their formers.

he takes them & seems to rebuild them into loyal soldiers who aren't aHead in their personal estimations of themselves. this I think is Key.

this imo is where a culture is built upon 'team', rather than I.

There is less than 0% chance we will trade Clark.

Get off the drugs people.

until he proves his foot is back to good after a full season who the hell would take him?

Old man and Carr were having dinner with dodoro and Goodwin from essendon last night, hardly a good sign for BnF tonight..

Martin to Essendon? The mind boggles at the unlimited potential for drug related jokes

Not directly related to Melbourne, but my mail is that three Essendon players asked to be traded because of their loss of faith in the club with everything that happened this year. Zakarakis, Myers and Kommer. Apparently they managed to talk the former around (although i'd love for us to get into his ear). Crameri wanting out is due to money / oppurtunity, not the drugs scandal.

At the right price, i'd be interested in getting Myers to our club.