Nicholson, Tapscott and McKenzie were never going to be dropped. All three were (unfortunately) among our better players last week. Nicholson was our worst of that bunch, but he still ran and delivered the ball as well as he can.

Rohan Bail is the one that really needs to be dropped, so from the list WJ provided I'd say the ins and outs will be:

So we continually allow Nicholson to miss his targets by 5 metres, and thats OK? His mediocre disposal and lack of awareness is appaling, he wouldnt get a game at GWS at the moment, yet we continually endorse his ordinariness with repeated selection.

Tapscott had 7 posessions and didnt score playing as a forward last week, love to know how he figured anywhere near our best.

And I agree that Bail should be dropped, 8 lousy disposals at 50% efficiency was a very poor outing

Tigers play a fast hard running footy. I don't think they are massive hard bodies. Especially with a few outs like tuck and maric! Toumpas should be ok.

I just don't get nicholson. Turn over machine who doesn't man up and also dogged a contest. I know he runs but everything else he stuffed up!

I doubt Trenners will play that will likely save Bail. I don't see a need for Spencer (unless Jamar out) or Davis.

Nicholson, Tapscott and McKenzie were never going to be dropped. All three were (unfortunately) among our better players last week

Watched a different game to me Chook. Nicholson was awful, got beaten all day and continually looks lost. What did McKenzie do to earn the title of one of our best? I honestly don't remember him doing anything. He did lay 3 tackles, so by current standards that probably earns him a recall, but he's still utterly useless in attack.

So we continually allow Nicholson to miss his targets by 5 metres, and thats OK? His mediocre disposal and lack of awareness is appaling, he wouldnt get a game at GWS at the moment, yet we continually endorse his ordinariness with repeated selection.

Tapscott had 7 posessions and didnt score playing as a forward last week, love to know how he figured anywhere near our best.

And I agree that Bail should be dropped, 8 lousy disposals at 50% efficiency was a very poor outing

Tapscott applied a lot of physical pressure last week. He caused about six or seven turnovers, and to my mind actually played his best game of the year.

Nicholson is the very definition of NQR, but he does the things we accuse our players of not doing every week. He runs hard, he tackles and he provides options for his team-mates. His work rate counteracts his pathetic disposal, but I'll grant you that the minute our more skilled players run and present like him, he will be straight out of the side.

About McKenzie, he's also a representative of that group of pathetic but hardworking footballers that we have to play every week. I will say on his behalf that he was involved in 2 of our goals last week, and because he plays hard on his man he rarely allows them to collect clean possessions.

McKenzie doesn't hurt us. He doesn't help us much either, but unfortunately there are players (like Blease for example) who help us a lot, but hurt us more with their poor pressure and over-eager turnovers.

Edited May 16, 201312 yr by Chook

Two of the best last week in Viney (clear best) and Sylvia go out.

Barring a miracle it will be Tiges by 100+, quite possibly Neeld's last game.

I'm guessing Jamar is 50-50 and might be a late omission. Otherwise Spencer being on the extended bench with both Gawn and Jamar listed on the ground is a slap in the face to Fitzpatrick.

Im hoping the bench ends up as; Magner, Davey, Davis (may as well see what he can or cant do) with Kent as the sub

I'm guessing Jamar is 50-50 and might be a late omission. Otherwise Spencer being on the extended bench with both Gawn and Jamar listed on the ground is a slap in the face to Fitzpatrick.

I agree. We've seen what Spencer has to offer; now let's see Fitzpatrick's wares. I'd say that Jamar will miss, and that we'll have to sit through another week of Spencer. Oh well...

Watched a different game to me Chook. Nicholson was awful, got beaten all day and continually looks lost. What did McKenzie do to earn the title of one of our best? I honestly don't remember him doing anything. He did lay 3 tackles, so by current standards that probably earns him a recall, but he's still utterly useless in attack.

Neither of them could hit the side of a barn with a howitzer.

When these two cannot get a game we will have an improved side.

There is not another team in the competition that would give them a game.

Their disposal is deplorable.

I'm guessing Jamar is 50-50 and might be a late omission. Otherwise Spencer being on the extended bench with both Gawn and Jamar listed on the ground is a slap in the face to Fitzpatrick.

Im hoping the bench ends up as; Magner, Davey, Davis (may as well see what he can or cant do) with Kent as the sub

I agree DemonWa after umpteen years on the list it is time to give him a game.

Just don't expect much in the disposal stakes.

He honestly makes Nicholson look good.

Viney out

god damn it, hes the only reason i watch the game these days

hope Toumpas tears it up!

I'm sure it's been covered before, but why, after all the hoopla about Dunn being reinvented as a backman, including an interview with him on the club website where he goes into detail about how feels he has found a new home and is slotting in nicely into the defensive group, and after playing there the entire pre-season, why is he back to being named in the half forward line?

I'm sure it's been covered before, but why, after all the hoopla about Dunn being reinvented as a backman, including an interview with him on the club website where he goes into detail about how feels he has found a new home and is slotting in nicely into the defensive group, and after playing there the entire pre-season, why is he back to being named in the half forward line?

Good question. I don't think the team sheet has much bearing on the real match-ups, but I think his best footy is played as a tagger.

Surely Trengove won't play. One week back from a calf isn't enough time. I can't say we desperately need him considering his form is woeful. He must be carrying something apart from a calf so why not play him for a half at Casey then a full game at Casey the next week? Confidence and being healthy are what JT needs. We and he don't need no form and a broken body jogging around every week.

I'm sure it's been covered before, but why, after all the hoopla about Dunn being reinvented as a backman, including an interview with him on the club website where he goes into detail about how feels he has found a new home and is slotting in nicely into the defensive group, and after playing there the entire pre-season, why is he back to being named in the half forward line?

He's obviously on the same 'development program' as Trengove. Play him in various positions to teach him about the game.

FIIK but if he takes a few grabs and sends through a barrel from 60m out I won't be whinging.

Backman, to tagger to CHF....

Whats this talk of consistency coaches keep talking about?

What a balls up of a side. I cannot for the life of me understand playing Jamar ahead of Fitzpatrick and Nicholson and Mckenzie were truly horrible last week. Please don't tell me one of Blease or Taggart couldn't get a run. Who the flock are selecting these uneven travesties?

Beyond being a truly shite team, we're also saying to young blokes doing well at Casey that we'll re pick older blokes who can no longer perform. Dismal.

Ok, I've taken a deep breath. No, a truly shite team.

Right now I think Celebrity splash contestants will be more competitive then us

I feel for Jack Fitzpatrick. They guy has been in our best three weeks running at Casey and still not even a spot as an emergency in a side that's crying out for another tall forward.

Toe? When did that happen?

In the rooms, kicking his locker after last weeks game.

I feel for Jack Fitzpatrick. They guy has been in our best three weeks running at Casey and still not even a spot as an emergency in a side that's crying out for another tall forward.

I don't. I reckon the guys been lucky to be on an AFL list since he was drafted. And at the moment we need Dawes and Gawn more than him and don't have near enough run to to play another tall. He's playing well but hasn't set demanded selection.

I felt for Magner. One more big game and I might feel for Fitzy but I think he'll also get his chance then.

Backman, to tagger to CHF....

Whats this talk of consistency coaches keep talking about?

Actually, if he plays in the forward line, it's been forward to tagger to backman to forward to backman to tagger to forward. I'm assuming that sooner or later, one of the bloody coaches on the revolving door that is this club will work out that he's not good enough to play in any position. What's the bet that we get a new coach for next year and they keep him on though, just to see what they can make of him?

In the rooms, kicking his locker after last weeks game.

It landed here in Perth.

Knowledge is gleaned in a couple of ways, one by gradually observation and analysis, the other by intuitive perception. One in not necessarily more accurate than the other. Some are better than one than the other.

Two many have intuitively gleaned that we are a mess.

Just print out for me another team of any era that has suffered such disastrous defeats in a row like we have.

This is not just bad form, this is disaster.

In my opinion the catch is that Neeld has done some good things, but they have distracted some from taking seriously the disastrous results of several poor decisions and the inability to coach beyond set structures. He lacks the essential intangible ingredient that the best coaches have.

I have great hopes for Fitzy, but I believe their is no need to rush him.