More worryingly, I think he believed everything he said over the pre-season. I don't think he lied to us, he just didn't recognise what was going on, which is probably worse.

That is surely right. The guy did not have a clue then and has less now.

But i did not think it appropriate for a coach to be congratulated on a cop out giving pre game excuses many of which are dubious in their factual content.

Its excruciating watching a coach in their final days prior to their termination.

If Neeld wants to be so competitive, then why does he keep picking players who ate out of form and non competitive ?

Sellar, MacKenzie, strauss?

If Neeld wants to be so competitive, then why does he keep picking players who ate out of form and non competitive ?

Sellar, MacKenzie, strauss?

Sellar beat Lynch last week, Strauss deserves some consecutive games based on VFL form. I dont rate McKenzie but his first half on Harbrow last week was effective.

Did you watch Casey on the ABC yesterday? Who would you play ahead of those you mentioned based on yesterdays output?

From quarter time. He misses tackles and his disposal is mostly deplorable. And my god Blease is soft and his disposal is overrated.

first game of the year wasnt it? coming of injury thought he was OK

Sellar beat Lynch last week, Strauss deserves some consecutive games based on VFL form. I dont rate McKenzie but his first half on Harbrow last week was effective.

Did you watch Casey on the ABC yesterday? Who would you play ahead of those you mentioned based on yesterdays output?

Natanui?

So it's fine to get flogged if before the game you state that this would happen?

Where the hell did I say that?

It's amazing how ridiculous you sound when you try to read your biased crap into anyone's disagreeing view.

What I said is that Neeld is only saying what is fair, and that I don't necessarily believe that, since he hasn't come out and said 'we're going to win', that he doesn't necessarily think that.