The Top End Trip is all about Team leadership and Team Bonding.

The players have been issued with a criteria for voting on the 2013 Leadership Group.

It sounds like all positions are up for grabs.

Personally I think it will be very similar, obviously Bartram is gone.

I think we lack leadership in the back six. I cannot see any of the obvious back line players having leadership status at the moment.

Midfield has 2 obvious choices Jones & Grimes and maybe Howe if he plays that role.

The Forward line has Clark, Dawes and maybe throw in Byrnes.

What do you think?

The Top End Trip is all about Team leadership and Team Bonding.

The players have been issued with a criteria for voting on the 2013 Leadership Group.

It sounds like all positions are up for grabs.

Personally I think it will be very similar, obviously Bartram is gone.

I think we lack leadership in the back six. I cannot see any of the obvious back line players having leadership status at the moment.

Midfield has 2 obvious choices Jones & Grimes and maybe Howe if he plays that role.

The Forward line has Clark, Dawes and maybe throw in Byrnes.

What do you think?

I assume the Co-Captains are slightly off limits.

It will be interesting.

Assuming we'll go with 8 members (as we did in 2012), I'd say the following are a lock: Grimes, Trengove, Jones, Clark.

That leaves 4 spots up for grabs.

The top candidates for those 4 spots would have to be: Rodan, Byrnes, Dawes, Jamar, Frawley, Garland (the last 3 partly because they were in the leadership group last year). 3 smokeys I'd consider including are: Howe, McDonald, Watts, McKenzie

My prediction:

Grimes & Trengove (Captains)

Jones

Clark

Dawes

Frawley (the back-line needs a member)

Rodan

Byrnes

Garland/Frawley are part of the group this year, I can't see why he wouldn't again be a part next year...

Jordie Mac could get into the group as well. (Replacing Barty)

Other than that I don't reckon we would have too many changes given the age of the group.

Dunno if Byrnes and Rodan will get a spot, they bring experience and can help educate, but not sure if they need to be defined as leaders officially.

Edited December 12, 201213 yr by Oucher

I think Howe could get a guernsey. He appears to be a standout in the training reports..

Frawley is a cert and Neeld loves Garland so my guess is they stay.

Jones is a lock in as are Grims and Trenners.

Clarke and Dawes might be the next ones..

I think Howe could get a guernsey. He appears to be a standout in the training reports..

Frawley is a cert and Neeld loves Garland so my guess is they stay.

Jones is a lock in as are Grims and Trenners.

Clarke and Dawes might be the next ones..

Pretty sure Clark was in the leadership group 2012.....Might be wrong there....

I assume the Co-Captains are slightly off limits.

I'd like to think so.

But you never can gauge what is on their minds until it happens.

The playing list has gone through massive changes in the past 12 months.

The Top End Training has encompassed a lot of exercises that bring out the leadership aspects of people.

The forthcoming 35K hike through Kakadu should put up a few more names for consideration.

I believe there will be changes,but who they are will be interesting.

I reckon Dawes is a lock. He has leadership aspirations and I expect, qualities which Neeldy demands.

I doubt there will be any additions.

Or omissions.

Frawley in for Barty. The rest as is.

No to Dawes, Rodan, or Byrnes this coming year.

There will be more pushing in 12 mths. Good place to be IMO.

Frawley in for Barty. The rest as is.

No to Dawes, Rodan, or Byrnes this coming year.

There will be more pushing in 12 mths. Good place to be IMO.

Frawley was in it last year

I doubt there will be any additions.

Or omissions.

Bartram will be an out. So there might well be an addition.

Two Captains and a Vice Captain is a bit messy - but I think Jonesy has earned some additional recognition.

No problem with those mentioned so far but I would like to see Watts name there.

Grimes/Trengove - Captains

Jones

Clark

Dawes

Jamar

Garland

Frawley

Sylvia

That's my pick, and yes you read correctly, Sylvia. I think it's time something clicked with him and even though it's a gamble somewhat, being part of the leadership group might just be the thing he needs to really switch on. I think Byrnes and Rodan will do a lot of teaching and leading but not necessarily with official titles. Howe and Tommy Mc on the cusp.

Grimes/Trengove - Captains

Jones

Clark

Dawes

Jamar

Garland

Frawley

Sylvia

That's my pick, and yes you read correctly, Sylvia. I think it's time something clicked with him and even though it's a gamble somewhat, being part of the leadership group might just be the thing he needs to really switch on. I think Byrnes and Rodan will do a lot of teaching and leading but not necessarily with official titles. Howe and Tommy Mc on the cusp.

I think the only addition will be Dawes.

You're idea about Col is great but there is no chance IMO he will get a guernsey.

I think the only addition will be Dawes.

You're idea about Col is great but there is no chance IMO he will get a guernsey.

Yeah I hear ya mate, it's just the only thing I can think of that might get him into gear. Plus, would be good to have a "cowboy" (as Kevin Sheedy calls them) in the group.

Grimes/Trengove - Captains

Jones

Clark

Dawes

Jamar

Garland

Frawley

Sylvia

That's my pick, and yes you read correctly, Sylvia. I think it's time something clicked with him and even though it's a gamble somewhat, being part of the leadership group might just be the thing he needs to really switch on. I think Byrnes and Rodan will do a lot of teaching and leading but not necessarily with official titles. Howe and Tommy Mc on the cusp.

Fair call.

But it feels like a double down: if it works well then it will be the push he needs, if it fails he might repeat beamer in 2013.

Anyone reckon this could work for Davey?

You don't put blokes in the leadership group in the hope that they will pull their finger out.

Edited December 12, 201213 yr by dandeeman

Fair call.

But it feels like a double down: if it works well then it will be the push he needs, if it fails he might repeat beamer in 2013.

Anyone reckon this could work for Davey?

Yeah, get what you're saying, that's why I said it's a bit of a gamble, but I just think with the pressure of "make or break" we may just score a genuine superstar. Sure it could backfire, but Col has coasted for long enough.

I still consider Davey a leader amongst the boys, especially when you see how much they respect and listen to him, but just hard to know how he'll go with form and his leg injury that will determine how many games he plays.

You don't put blokes in the leadership group in the hope that they will pull their finger out.

If we've got 8+ guys in the leadership group why not put a guy in with the hope he will blossom in the role?

Fair call.

But it feels like a double down: if it works well then it will be the push he needs, if it fails he might repeat beamer in 2013.

Anyone reckon this could work for Davey?

Careful I suggested that in another thread on the topic and had NoMoreMrNiceGuy or whatever the hell his name was come after me with pitchfork in hand.

Personally I think it would, yes. But leadership titles need to be earned in a variety of ways and whether he's shown enough on the track during the pre-season, compared to others, is a big IF. Same could be said for Col.

Howe for Barts.

Grimes

Trengove

Jones

Clarke

Frawley

Watts

*Clark