has huge down side with his work rate and natural athletic ability.

You have an interesting way of agreeing with people.

Rucks don't need to be skillful.

If they get 3 kicks and 7 hanballs they can still have a dominant game if the hit the ball 40 times with their fist.

Jamar is value because he can dominate the centre square - an area a number 1 ruckman must be good at.

That is why he got 3 years.

If Spencer can do that - he will have a career. Same goes for any uncoordinated, skill-averse behemoth.

But if they can be athletic and dominant it makes a huge difference, Cox for instance is supreme ruck becasue he touches the ball regularly and effectively.

Any way for those discussing Hannath, he looks a likely prospect and worth having as an additional ruckman possibly key position player.

He has committed to spend a day this week training with Hawthorn.

He has committed to spend a day this week training with Hawthorn.

We have a pick in the Rookie draft before Hawthorn, so if we want him ...

We have a pick in the Rookie draft before Hawthorn, so if we want him ...

Do they have a pick in the PSD though?

Do they have a pick in the PSD though?

I believe they don't.

I'm guessing but with Melbourne going to NT for the next week it might not be feasible to take a non listed player on the trip. There could be implications with insurance and a whole range of things involved.

That means that Hannath is free to train elsewhere and who knows? A different club altogether could select him in the PSD or the rookie draft.

That's the system.

I really hope we get him. He looks the goods.

I certainly don't want to bring up those past players mentioned before, because I am one for all these trades getting done. And getting Jack Hannath would be the icing on the cake for me.

New MFC 4 2013

Stef Martin will go down as another bungled pick.

I know he didn't 'cost' much, but it's symbolic of our last five years or so.

No idea.

I believe they don't. I'm guessing but with Melbourne going to NT for the next week it might not be feasible to take a non listed player on the trip. There could be implications with insurance and a whole range of things involved. That means that Hannath is free to train elsewhere and who knows? A different club altogether could select him in the PSD or the rookie draft. That's the system.

does any one have access to a hawthorn site to see their opinion of him?

Chances are that one or two of the blokes that we have let go will succeed at another club. That won't mean that we will have made a mistake.

The list needs to be looked at as an entity on it's own and not as a group of indivduals.

And especially the compound effect of all, on the culture. This to me is why its necessary to ciut so deep, & bring in so many more professionally oriented types of players, & coaches.

Stef Martin will go down as another bungled pick.

I know he didn't 'cost' much, but it's symbolic of our last five years or so.

Hard to say JR, if it was him, or the culture he came into, or a combo.

Hannath would be a great backup for our ruck stocks.

Does anybody know whether he was invited to train in Darwin?

Does anybody know whether he was invited to train in Darwin?

I doubt it. Like WJ said above, it wouldn't have been feasible with insurance etc

http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/4742/newsid/151888/default.aspx

Hawks are looking for a ruckman, they were trialling Jonathan Ceglar (ex-pies) last week. No mention of Jack Hannath though.

Hannath would be a great backup for our ruck stocks.

Not to mention, adding to the possibility that one of our rucks will be useful as trade bait next year. If we picked him up, can't imagine we'd keep Gawn, Spencer and Hannath over the long term, and we still have Clark, Fitzpatrick and some pinch-hitters (Sellars, Pederson). Surely one would go.

Hi all - first post!

Hannath did go to Darwin with the Dees. From what I've heard he's been pretty much guaranteed by Melbourne that they'll take him

Hi all - first post!

Hannath did go to Darwin with the Dees. From what I've heard he's been pretty much guaranteed by Melbourne that they'll take him

Welcome and thanks for the heads up.

Hi all - first post!

Hannath did go to Darwin with the Dees. From what I've heard he's been pretty much guaranteed by Melbourne that they'll take him

Great start fella. Welcome.

If we take Hannath, does anybody have any insider info on who our other rookie pick may take this week?

If we take Hannath, does anybody have any insider info on who our other rookie pick may take this week?

Some seem to think we will chase a small forward so that is basically one of the northern territory kids

I really doubt we will add to the mature age brigade seeing as we already have Magner still on the Rookie List

Will be interesting and will look forward to Venom Denham making absurd and negative remarks no matter who we pick

Taken by Freo at pick 8 in the PSD.

Revenge for Mitch?

Jack Hanath picked by Fremantle with pick 8

Taken by Freo at pick 8 in the PSD.

Revenge for Mitch?

Exactly what I thought