beelzebub 23,392 Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 In the absence ( seemingly lol ) of RR I humbly offer up this POLL !! Now try, if you can, to remain unbiased and honest. Feel free to expand upon the answers but only as to clarify. plenty of other threads to whinge or compliment etc. Ive only supplied this poll to provide a snapshot of where people might stand. its really inconsequential as to the good bad or otherwise. it neither castigates nor validates. Just asks a few questions. Might be interesting to garner an idea of what people think.
The Chazz 4,077 Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 Tough poll B59, given a lot of the answers have to be given without knowing the full story. But at the risk of being shot down, my answers; 1. Adequate. Is he the best out there? No. But at this stage, given a tough couple of years, he has maintain our profitable bottom line. 2. Yes. Unless he is proven to be the brains trust behind getting the qunatity of people involved in these "meetings". 3. No. I'm not going to hang the man without facts. 4. No. See point 3. BUT, if he is responsible, he ought. 5. Yes. Very professional, passionate. Did explain how we made an offer to Clarkson to coach prior to Neeld's arrival. Feast away.
Sir Why You Little 37,450 Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 Ask me after the truth is extracted. I am staggered he survives 186, that has not changed. But as he has been so quiet how do we know?
beelzebub 23,392 Posted November 1, 2012 Author Posted November 1, 2012 Didnt suppose it'd be quite as easy as some might suspect Billy..as you say. Much is often based upon perceptions. We often make judgements on things without knowing the back stories only what we can see/read/hear/ participate in etc. We probably all have varying criteria also. Thats the nature of these things
nutbean 8,838 Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 I think I would like to vote - first I am casting this opinion as outsider looking in so I have to largely judge the book by its cover A whole lot of good mixed with a whole lot of bad. A whole lot of good - Debt reduction, restructuring the footy club and will even give him cudo's for getting Energywatch ( as other codes did as well) and then replacing them when they went pearshaped - not easy in this enviroment with the product he has to sell. A whole lot of bad - the apparent sticking his nose into the footy department and getting players and others offside and his tie up with this current mess.
Deestroy All 14,266 Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 I think one bloke taking the wrap for all of this nonsense is a bit much, who knows, he may help get us off lightly. I've met him a few times, very nice bloke, loves the MFC and is as filthy as I am when we lose.
Fat Tony 5,337 Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 Regardless of whether you rate Schwab or not, the club needs to move on from the tanking episode. The best way to do so is with a change in the administration. No one who was involved at the time at either Board level or in the higher level administration should remain.
P-man 13,367 Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 It's a pity the names of voters aren't public. Given CS frequents here I'd be interested in seeing how he rates himself. I think nutbean summed it up. He's been a mixed bag. He deserves alot of credit for overseeing getting us out of debt, despite Jimmy's role. However he has also overseen what has been one of the worst period's in the club's history, from all angles, culminating in what we're currently seeing. I'm also not as big a fan of him introducing things under the guise of heritage and tradition. The blazers, the bugler, even that stupid dinky collar...I'd be more than happy to see all of these binned and never spoken of again.
Guest bluey Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 Do you hold Cam Schwab responsible in any way for the current AFL investigation in alledged Tanking? Do you think Cam Schwab ought to resign ? How about "Do you think you should see a solicitor?, since Cam is not charged with anything.
DemonWA 3,941 Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 i can only judge my opinion on what i see (not what i hear 2nd hand). Is good for the financial position of the club and is passionate about the club and its history
1858 285 Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 Respectfully, I will wait until the end of due-process (assuming it exists) before I judge from my key-board.
mjt 640 Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 as soon as this debacle is over he needs be replaced, terrible CEO, he lurches from one disaster to the next, as for a person hes a probably a good bloke.
beelzebub 23,392 Posted November 1, 2012 Author Posted November 1, 2012 Do you hold Cam Schwab responsible in any way for the current AFL investigation in alledged Tanking? Do you think Cam Schwab ought to resign ? How about "Do you think you should see a solicitor?, since Cam is not charged with anything. you are an absolute tool arent you Blueywhere have I said he is.. but thats not how you Trolls operate is it.
McQueen 17,867 Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 On face value, I would voted for him to resign just to purely get some respite from the media. There is no doubting in my mind he has many enemies and this attracts the vitriol thrown at the club. Sure he's helped wipe the debt and done many other good things with the sponsor issues (or was he just lucky) but it's time to start fresh at the corporate level as well.
Jordie_tackles 354 Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 60%ish of voters rate him as Good to Very good 50% think he should be sacked......what?
bing181 9,473 Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 A whole lot of bad - the apparent sticking his nose into the footy department and getting players and others offside and his tie up with this current mess. Agree with most of your post (as always ....). For the last part, at least you included "apparent". As with everything that's going on now, it's just a cesspool of rumour, innuendo and speculation, all fueled by a generous helping of fabrication. When asked about this earlier in the year, Neil Craig made the point of saying that there was no interference in the FD from Schwab or the Admin.
Hazyshadeofgrinter 80 Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 Comments: We had high hopes for Cameron when he arrived at the Melbourne Football School but 2012 was another disappointing year. It was especially concerning to see Cameron go backward in membership this year after the solid progress we saw from him in this subject previously. On a brighter note, Cameron has shown some enthusiasm, if not aptitude, for Art and Fashion. Many students were impressed by the new school logo and school blazers that Cameron designed. Unfortunately, these subjects were not part of Cameron's curriculum so they won't be included on his official academic record. Cameron was also part of a group recruitment project this year which has had some good results, although it must be said that most of the work was done by a new student, Mark, and another boy from outside of the school, Garry. Despite this, Cameron would have got a much higher mark for this subject if he had not cut corners and performed so badly on the General Manager – Player Development and Strategy component of the project. I continue to harbour serious concerns about Cameron's social development and he is reported to have been bullying some of the other children outside of his friendship group. As you know, this is a serious matter. Cameron was almost expelled for his inappropriate behaviour last year. Thank goodness he is related to the principle.
daisycutter 30,006 Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 The secret to good comedy (even school-yard comedy) Hazy is all in the timing You fail on both counts.....but by all means keep trying
Guest José Mourinho Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 You're exceptionally boring HSOG.
Sir Why You Little 37,450 Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 Hazy. The point has been made. We know your thoughts.
Deeman 1,551 Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 Hazy. The point has been made. We know your thoughts. Hey Hazy - why don't you do a similar rating of the CEOs coming before Cameron Schwab? You know - Ray Ellis, Steve Harris and Paul "Wimbledon" McNamee?
BIG JIM 508 Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 Your an idiot mate we are all really worried about the future of the club and your running a PRO Carro/Media agenda against the club for some reason?your not a MFC fan in my eyes are you on SEN with KB sometimes? Greg [censored] OFF dead beat
stuie 7,374 Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 Incompetent, no, yes,yes,yes. You know you can actually just vote by pressing buttons right? Wouldn't have thought you were clever enough to work that out.
Dee Fan 3,247 Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 You know you can actually just vote by pressing buttons right? Wouldn't have thought you were clever enough to work that out. That wouldn't have the same impact.
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