Walsh hinted at trading picks 18, 19 and 21 for a higher pick. If they were to get pick 3, who do you think they would take?

Walsh hinted at trading picks 18, 19 and 21 for a higher pick. If they were to get pick 3, who do you think they would take?

They'd take Grundy if he was available. Need a replacement for Jolly.

HIghlights package of pederson looks good - solid body, can mark, can ruck, good thinker, can run and can kick. Good cheap pick up if we get him.

Walsh hinted at trading picks 18, 19 and 21 for a higher pick. If they were to get pick 3, who do you think they would take?

There is no way GWS would hand over Pick 3 for Collingwood's three picks in the teens so don't worry about Coll ruining our draft day.

They'd take Grundy if he was available. Need a replacement for Jolly.

IF GWS traded pick 3 to Collingwood they would just take Grundy with 2 is my guess. But it won't happen because they need to reduce their list and at this stage one "sure thing" is more convenient than three maybes.

I think when GWS said they were willing to trade a high pick they were talking about trading for established stars. More draft picks aren't their priority.

Just on the Pedo, is it true that no other club wants him? I find this hard to believe (if true,) is there something that we are missing here? He looks like a natural..

Just on the Pedo, is it true that no other club wants him? I find this hard to believe (if true,) is there something that we are missing here? He looks like a natural..

I totally agree. I don't understand it.

There is no way GWS would hand over Pick 3 for Collingwood's three picks in the teens so don't worry about Coll ruining our draft day.

Yes, GWS will need to pare back their list in coming years.

Transforming 1 pick into 3 would be counterproductive for them.

As I've said a few times, they need to cram as much talent into each individual list spot as possible.

Yes, GWS will need to pare back their list in coming years.

Transforming 1 pick into 3 would be counterproductive for them.

As I've said a few times, they need to cram as much talent into each individual list spot as possible.

We can help them out by trading pick 4 for picks 1, 2 & 3.

Was the update on the 16th just Nudge telling people where he gets his sources or was there an update I have missed?

Check the updated OP.

Updated OP says Gumby still on the table. I was sure I read he had come to terms with the Bummers for a 1 yr deal and had rejected a 2 yr offer from others.

Might sound stupid here but what is OP?

OP = Origanal Post. Nudge updated his OP days ago. Before Gumby signing on for extra year with the Bomberrs

UPDATE:

Dawes Deal finally completed this afternoon, expect many chips to now fall including Pederson & potential other club deals will flow freely tomorrow

Dawes & Lick 58 to Demons

Pick 20 & 45 to Pies

Other updates (coded - Hot, Luke warm, scuttlebutt)

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- Pick 58 may be sent to Roos for Cam Pederson (Rivers compo pick may be offered however Roos may not want to wait for announcement its holding up Macintosh Deal (H)

- Jared Rivers has told the club he will join Cats once offer sheet comes through (H)

- Demons inquire what Dockers are seeking for Broughton (H)

- Farren Ray still in picture after Saints can secure M.Brown from Eagles, may look to Stef Martin for swap with Farren unless other cards fall. Expect update once Cripps deal done (H)

- Neeld may get his dream Fwd lineup as Gumbleton to either Dockers, Dogs or Demons (H)

- Martin & Gysberts both linked to a complex deal involving 4 teams, more to come on this one as details are sketchy at this stage however it's believed to involve Bombers, Demons, GWS & 1-2 other clubs

- 4/5 Clubs have met with Demons to feel out offers for Stef Martin, Demons holding out for word on Ray and above deal to become clearer (H)

- Melbourne putting in yards to convince Geelong to part with George Burbury or Jonathan Simpkin

Both are Rookie listed & Demons rate them VERY highly (H)

- James Strauss has been put on table as potential lure for players with outside speed, after some inquiries early on from Hawks & Pies were initially rejected (SB)

- Dylan Roberton's management has mentioned Demons have been in contact (LW)

- WCE have met with Cale Morton's Management, Bombers & Swans also showing mild interest (LW)

- Jordan Russell has met with 3 VIC clubs & it's clear he will receive an opportunity, Dees seen to hold him as a reserve option if unable to secure another experienced utility type

- Matthew Bate back on Bulldogs menu, Lions & GC also keen & potential packaged deal for Ben Jacobs with PA also gaining momentum late today (LW)

- Jesse White an interesting topic as it seems Dogs may prefer him to Gumbleton opening door for Demons & Dockers to battle it out should he decide to leave. Neeld not keen on White due to perceived "Lazy" training & prep habits (LW)

- Demons have no interest in M.Campbell after seeking word on C.Garlett earlier in Trade Period (LW)

- Melbourne have been ruled out of any deal involving Andy Otten (H)

- Dees, Swans & Hawks have reportedly entertained the idea of speaking with Dan Connors about a rookie list opportunity, although reports are its long odds at this stage (SB)

- Proposed Lucas Cook straight swap with Roos for Garlett and/or Part of Pederson deal now seems unlikely as Lachie Hansen agrees to stay at NM (LW)

- Lions & Dockers have reportedly minor interest only as it looks Lucas may be delisted & have to settle for a rookie spot at best (LW)

- Ricky Petterd may be traded for a pick in range of 35-45 with up to 6 teams declaring some level of interest, may come done to fitness tests (LW)

Believe it or not, barely half the info floating around atm, by far most hectic & openly negotiated trade period in AFL history - Well done AFL for insult getting time frame & addition of FA right to ensure players & teams can finally look to improve their list & find new opportunities! Much more to come when I get some time to digest all the numerous reports, since Dawes deal & Mcintosh deal have been agreed upon, the flood gates are well & truly alive!

PS - Mark Neeld, the man walks what he talks - Well done Dees!

HOT (more likely)

Picks 3 & 13 to GWS for Jesse Hogan & Pick 20

Stefan Martin to Saints (Dogs, Pies, GC also keen in which any pick they send would likely be on traded to saints) for Farren Ray

4th round pick to North Melbourne for Cam Pederson (may be part of bigger deal)

Pick 20 to Collingwood for Chris Dawes (likely to include swaps of later picks also)

Brent Moloney to Lions as FA

Luke Warm:

Ben Warren to demons via trade or PSD

Cale Morton to WCE for Koby Stevens or to Bombers for David Myers

Stefan Martin to pies for Sharrod Wellingham (unlikely due to SW reluctance to stay in VIc)

Jared Rivers to Geelong (luke warm now as Cats eyeing Delaney & Jacobs thus have no solid offer to Riv as yet)

Ricky Petterd to Collingwood/GC for mid range pick

Adelaide making a play to demons for Jordie Mckenzie which will most likely go nowhere

Lucas Cook to Bulldogs for Christian Howard (mooted about late today)

Neeld has rumoured to have met with the agent of blues Rookie Bell

Pick 4 to GC for Josh Caddy (very unlikely as Caddy hasnt met with Dees to date, Dees want live pick with 3 now gone to GWS)

Clinton Young to Demons via free agency (will depend on how hard Dees go once observing what other pins drop)

Docker Dylan Roberton has met with Demons as has teammate Jay Van Berlo

Jesse White's management have sought out demons for a chat, seen as potential Dawes contingency plan

Melbourne expected to meet with cut Swan Jared Moore & PA's David Rodan in coming days

Scuttlebutt:

- Semi-serious talk rumored to have taken place today from 3-4 different stories between dees/blues re: Kane Lucas & Jack Watts Word has it Demons played hands off approach with Watts, to which Blues responded with "fair enough". Tom Bell also discussed with blues still confident of retaining as a rookie

- WCE mildly keen on Cale Morton, with bombers & Blues also mentioned

- 2 Clubs still making inquiries for Garland, may be entertained if Rivers remains

- Lucas Cook has garnered only very light interest, with Saints & Dogs amusing offers

- Jamie Bennell has been discussed as potential swap to both WA clubs for a late round pick

- Demons to delist up to 11 players depending on trade period success: Macdonald, Bate, Bennell, Cook, Evans, Jetta, Batram, Petterd, Davis & more may go if trades cannot be facilitated with Jetta/Bartram considered to be 50-50 calls.

- Despite reports, Demons have no interest in Lachie Hansen or J Giles

- Melbourne looking to discuss potential of GC being open to trading Hall, also sussing out GWS' Rhys Cooyou

- David Armitage keeps popping up as yet another Demon target

WATCH THIS SPACE.. 2012 has begun at breakneck speed & a record amount of trades will be completed!

**Disclaimer - All data above is a collated mix from information I come across via many mediums in my corriders at my workspace, I only post things I hear from 2-4 different whispers & for those who dont yet, im sure most understand the AFL trade period is a crazxy time & with the window small only very few mentioned deals get completed.. even deals clubs agree on after days of intense talks can go un-done**

Nudge whether any of this true or just fantasy, it is an absolutley entertaining read. Just reading the post and speculating in my mind on some of the deals is great. That's why I like this time of year. It's fun.

A bloke I know told me that Pederson was very highly rated back when he started but fell out of favour with Scott. He said the anything below pick 35 would be a big win fir the dees.

OP = Origanal Post. Nudge updated his OP days ago. Before Gumby signing on for extra year with the Bomberrs

Gotcha. So what's origanal?

Didn't realise the timing of update. Apologies.

Guys in case you haven't seen it, Nudge said that he wasn't going to posting any more rumors a little while back. The OP was actually updated by Whispering Jack on the 16th of Oct not Nudge. So thanks should also go to Whispering Jack for the update.

Jack Watts unwillingness to put his body on the line is the reason for his slow development. It has nothing to do with Demonland posters. And the massive expectations for Watts are well gone by most. The person Watts needs to blame looks back at him in the mirror.

There is a reason that your club just paid pick 3 for Hogan, plus more. A lot of thought went into that decision. And they didn't do it unless they shared my and others expectations.

If you think of the exact opposite key forward to Watts picture Hogan. By all means keep your expectations in check, but don't tell me what to do with mine.

Apologies for the late reply. 'these sorts of comments', if you had noticed are not limited to this forum.

You can expect the world of who ever you like, its probably just not the advisable way to go about it.

Apologies for the late reply.

You needn't have bothered.

Rumor (from facebook I know) that I'm hearing is a 4 way deal.

Melbourne trade Stef Martin to Brisbane

Brisbane trade Pick 33 to Port Adelaide

North Melbourne also trade Matt Campbell to Port Adelaide

Port Adelaide trade Ben Jacobs and a later pick to North Melbourne

North Melbourne trade Cam Pedersen to Melbourne

Looks reasonably good, question I guess is what late Pick would Port send to North Melbourne, pretty late I would have thought?

This would also leave us Pick 49 to use in the Ray deal, not sure what it would take to get that one over the line?

Rumor (from facebook I know) that I'm hearing is a 4 way deal.

Melbourne trade Stef Martin to Brisbane

Brisbane trade Pick 33 to Port Adelaide

North Melbourne also trade Matt Campbell to Port Adelaide

Port Adelaide trade Ben Jacobs and a later pick to North Melbourne

North Melbourne trade Cam Pedersen to Melbourne

Looks reasonably good, question I guess is what late Pick would Port send to North Melbourne, pretty late I would have thought?

This would also leave us Pick 49 to use in the Ray deal, not sure what it would take to get that one over the line?

That works better than the other one flagged. Essentially means swapping Martin for Pederson which would be about right i guess

Just heard a very hot rumour from someone who can't be named. It appears that very few of us on DL have the slightest clue what's going on.

Go Dees. Trust the FD.

Just heard a very hot rumour from someone who can't be named. It appears that very few of us on DL have the slightest clue what's going on.

Go Dees. Trust the FD.

Wow a rumour that can't be shared from a source that can't be named from someone I don't know - wow, thanks!

Just heard a very hot rumour from someone who can't be named. It appears that very few of us on DL have the slightest clue what's going on.

Go Dees. Trust the FD.

ok i'll bite. what is the "very hot" rumour