"Hardball" is code for let's dick each other around for two weeks, waste everyone's time and finally arrive at the deal 5 minutes before the deadline and probably miss it because we cut it so fine that we missed the cutoff for the paperwork. It's the Essendon approach and it's why everyone avoids dealing with them.

I'm strongly against this approach. Make a sensible offer first up and just get it done ASAP. If Collingwood want to [censored] about the edges with it and make silly demands like Ricky bloody Petterd then fine, whatever. Humour them in the interests of getting it done quickly so we can focus on our next move.

I suspect not that much will happen until the compensation picks are announced in the next week.

I dont get

People dont rate the Pet

He can take a screamer

Or a goal go get...

I dont know why he's on the outer so much.He just needs to be consistant.

TT I am not sure why he would be on the inner.

The best game he ever played for the MFC was the one against the Pies when he dropped the ball in the goal square.

We subsequently lost the game by a point.

I have not seen a game up to that level since, that was I think the third game of 2010.

A long time ago.

All over for mine

i think sums it up from what i have heard , they need to free $$$

He could only suppose that salary cap issues were the reason why Collingwood were happy to trade him.

A waiting game. They need salary cap space so they can continue shopping. But we don't want to provide them with that space, so they can outbid Us, for some prospective player.

Anyone else get the feeling that Dawes won't be leaving Collingwood?

I suspect hey are currently Over, the Salary Cap, & have to clear someone.

I would suggest we are waiting for the compo so:

20 and 27 to Collingwood for Dawes and 38, 38 for Pederson.

i wouldn't mind this at all.

Friday week.

This Friday marks the end of FA, we have another week of trade week to come next week.

That means its the Farren Ray deal we need to get on with.

Other F/A's can wait till the preseason drafts, or rookie drafts.

I would suggest we are waiting for the compo so:

20 and 27 to Collingwood for Dawes and 38, 38 for Pederson.

i wouldn't mind this at all.

well I would - overs

TT I am not sure why he would be on the inner.

The best game he ever played for the MFC was the one against the Pies when he dropped the ball in the goal square.

We subsequently lost the game by a point.

I have not seen a game up to that level since, that was I think the third game of 2010.

A long time ago.

All over for mine

OD no one has played to their potential during Our List Management duration. And can you blame them?

RP is better than what we've seen, but like many has been Effected by the 'List Management' saga.

Ricky will be better, when all this stuff is behind him, just as long as he can withstand the modern training regimes.

maybe they want both pick 27 and pick 20 from us.

Maybe we wanted Dawes, + something, for P20?

TT I am not sure why he would be on the inner.

The best game he ever played for the MFC was the one against the Pies when he dropped the ball in the goal square.

We subsequently lost the game by a point.

I have not seen a game up to that level since, that was I think the third game of 2010.

A long time ago.

All over for mine

If he put in a second effort after fumbling that mark there may have been a slim chance for a different result. Choosing to squat on and thumping the turf in frustration sums up his career.

Edited October 16, 201213 yr by america de cali

Dawes is a contracted player, they want (need) him to move he wants to come to us not the dogs. If he doesn't get what he wants he can stay with the pies because he has a contract then they are up s...creek with their salary cap. Go figure, who has the best bargaining chip on the table?

Can someone wake me when something actually happens

I suspect not that much will happen until the compensation picks are announced in the next week.

Agree

Dawes is a contracted player, they want (need) him to move he wants to come to us not the dogs. If he doesn't get what he wants he can stay with the pies because he has a contract then they are up s...creek with their salary cap. Go figure, who has the best bargaining chip on the table?

got to love it when someone sees a clarity missed before.

I like this thinking

I would suggest we are waiting for the compo so:

20 and 27 to Collingwood for Dawes and 38, 38 for Pederson.

i wouldn't mind this at all.

I'd be OK if the nett is:

Out: 20, Moloney, Rivers, Martin

In: Dawes, Byrnes, Pedersen, Ray

altho many here will squark because we've lost so may champeeeens

Dawes is a contracted player, they want (need) him to move he wants to come to us not the dogs. If he doesn't get what he wants he can stay with the pies because he has a contract then they are up s...creek with their salary cap. Go figure, who has the best bargaining chip on the table?

Absolutely true. I like the Dees stance.

Let 'em sit in the steam room of salary cap pressure and paralyse their pursuit of anyone else. We can get other deals done in the mean time without any meddling from the pies.

I suspect hey are currently Over, the Salary Cap, & have to clear someone.

Why? Tarrant is gone (guessing $250k), as is Wellingham ($300k). They have $550k up the sleeve, some no doubt gone to Cloke. Dawes is only on about $280k, so unless they are trying to clear space for a Tippet, say, (then they will have to move a lot more than Dawes), I can't see how they have sal cap pressure.

They're clearing space for young.

They're clearing space for young.

And what's he going to cost? $300-350k? Not forgetting Pendlebury, Swan, Thomas et al have all accepted contract "unders" to keep the team together. Will they cop an over paid newie?

I'd be OK if the nett is:

Out: 20, Moloney, Rivers, Martin

In: Dawes, Byrnes, Pedersen, Ray

altho many here will squark because we've lost so may champeeeens

Make it happen Old

If he put in a second effort after fumbling that mark there may have been a slim chance for a different result. Choosing to squat on and thumping the turf in frustration sums up his career.

He had a great role model in Robbo to look up to.

Its funny, during the home and away season we had articles written about our club on a almost daily basis, and the trend has continued throughout trade week(s). Now we have a quiet day or two and everyone is panicing!

I say sit back and enjoy the peace and quiet! I'd love us to sign Dawes and Ray/Broughton, even Rodan, but theres still plenty of time left to do all/none of them

Why? Tarrant is gone (guessing $250k), as is Wellingham ($300k). They have $550k up the sleeve, some no doubt gone to Cloke. Dawes is only on about $280k, so unless they are trying to clear space for a Tippet, say, (then they will have to move a lot more than Dawes), I can't see how they have sal cap pressure.

I forgot about Tarrant, so you could well be right.

Well they do seem to be OK about Dawes, by not claiming him as a required player.

That brings other questions about whats going on. So maybe Buckley just doesn't want him?

Edited October 16, 201213 yr by dee-luded

What does anyone think Lynch is on 300?

Why? Tarrant is gone (guessing $250k), as is Wellingham ($300k). They have $550k up the sleeve, some no doubt gone to Cloke. Dawes is only on about $280k, so unless they are trying to clear space for a Tippet, say, (then they will have to move a lot more than Dawes), I can't see how they have sal cap pressure.

I agree it's not so much salary cap pressure than having someone they no longer want taking up a spot on the list. If we don't take him they can just leave him there and put up with him.