Hoping player x + pick 39 gets it done, would really prefer to keep pick 4 for a gun and pick 20 for a slider if possible. Funny how a guy who has played so few games recently and can't stay in the 1's (based on earlier posts) is now almost a 1st rounder

Hoping player x + pick 39 gets it done, would really prefer to keep pick 4 for a gun and pick 20 for a slider if possible. Funny how a guy who has played so few games recently and can't stay in the 1's (based on earlier posts) is now almost a 1st rounder

He's played 72 games and won a flag. He's pretty handy, and contracted...

Maybe pick 20 and Martin for Dawes and the pies second rounder to flip to North for Pedersen.

As for Gumby, just no.

By the way Dawes's physicality puts him ahead of Martin. He's also played and trained with a Premiership club as has Byrnes. I like what I'm seeing and am presuming Taggert, Strauss and Blease are going to improve, or that's what the club is thinking. We've also got the GWS guys coming out of contract next year to buy us the last pieces of the puzzle.

Edited October 12, 201213 yr by Roost It

Dawes will be much better if he does not need to Ruck.

If his hand is ok we could have a bargain.....if it is not he will struggle.

Dawes in our side will be just as effective as when James Sellar plays forward. Will do some good things but will struggle to dominate. At least Sellar has some cred as a defender and is Dawes equal as a pinch hitter in the ruck. If he is the big hulk we hoping he will be then why did none of the big clubs want him? Collingword preferred the aging "hands of stone" to him.

Edited October 12, 201213 yr by america de cali

Dawes in our side will be just as effective as when James Sellar playes forward. Will do some good things but will struggle to dominate. At least Sellar has some cred as a defender and is Dawes equal as a pinch hitter in the ruck. If he is the big hulk we hoping he will be then why did none of the big clubs want him?

There were 3 other clubs circling this morning....i actually thought the Dogs had finalized the deal so i am most suprised...

Many people forget....Neeld Coached Dawes & Leigh Brown played alongside him...So they would know what they are getting.

Dawes in our side will be just as effective as when James Sellar playes forward. Will do some good things but will struggle to dominate. At least Sellar has some cred as a defender and is Dawes equal as a pinch hitter in the ruck. If he is the big hulk we hoping he will be then why did none of the big clubs want him? Collingword preffered the aging "hands of stone" to him.

Yeah it's all doom and gloom isn't it?

The thing that I like about Dawes is his hunger for contest - even when not taking marks he is tackling, chasing, contesting, shepherding. He didnt stop doing these things this season- he just wasnt clunking marks like the previous two years. (Excepting Clark) we have a similar type of footballer at the MFC called...ummm... called ...ummm..ok -we just dont.

exactly, if he is doing all of these positive things he will begin to have things turn his way and we should have a good pick up! Everyone at collingwood say he has a brilliant work-rate and we need people like this and it will create a really positve feel around the club. It is really only a matter of time for Dawes before he returns to his form of 2010-11 and he should be a great pick-up

Edited October 12, 201213 yr by young dee enthusiast

There were 3 other clubs circling this morning....i actually thought the Dogs had finalized the deal so i am most suprised...

Many people forget....Neeld Coached Dawes & Leigh Brown played alongside him...So they would know what they are getting.

All clubs that are struggling and clutching at straws BTW. There must have been a substantial sweetener.

Dawes will be much better if he does not need to Ruck.

If his hand is ok we could have a bargain.....if it is not he will struggle.

Surely the Club would be all over this and completed its due diligence.

All clubs that are struggling and clutching at straws BTW. There must have been a substantial sweetener.

Neeld was open about using Dawes connection with Leigh Brown and himself to get him over the line. All the info was that he was Bulldog bound. I am super impressed how the Club has handled the drafting process so far.

ADC just try and look on the bright side of life otherwise you are just destined to be a misery guts. Enjoy the ride and look forward to what the future holds for our great Club.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/149651/default.aspx

Everything about Walsh screams "[censored]".

Dawes in our side will be just as effective as when James Sellar plays forward. Will do some good things but will struggle to dominate. At least Sellar has some cred as a defender and is Dawes equal as a pinch hitter in the ruck. If he is the big hulk we hoping he will be then why did none of the big clubs want him? Collingword preferred the aging "hands of stone" to him.

I agree that they are similarly talented but Dawes will work twice as hard as Sellar and make it to twice as many contests.

Dawes down one side of the ground and pederson down the other gives us two gorillas that should crash packs and at least halve contests. We'll be much more bearable to watch than when we were kicking to Martin, Dunn, Bate, Petterd, or relying on Howe to take mark of the year every time we bring it out of defence.

They should also help Watts development through training, and Watts getting the 3rd or 4th defender if he spends time forward.

Wtf...someone WANTS to play for us ?.?

Greg Denham...Eat your words!!

All clubs that are struggling and clutching at straws BTW. There must have been a substantial sweetener.

Give the guy chance before sinking the slipper ADC, otherwise it's just pessimism for pessimism's sake.

http://www.afl.com.a...51/default.aspx

Everything about Walsh screams "[censored]".

It's just posturing. The Pies will take pick 20 if we sit tight. It's more than fair.

Neeld was open about using Dawes connection with Leigh Brown and himself to get him over the line. All the info was that he was Bulldog bound. I am super impressed how the Club has handled the drafting process so far.

ADC just try and look on the bright side of life otherwise you are just destined to be a misery guts. Enjoy the ride and look forward to what the future holds for our great Club.

W

When the deck chairs stop shuffling and elan and results start appearing in that order I will ditch my cynicism. Have heard too many tiresome excuses and false promises that justify our lameness past, present and perhaps future. As the old saying goes "show me the money?" Fortunately I have many real positives in my life to be cheerful about. And many other supporters feel like me but not many would waste their time here.

Edited October 12, 201213 yr by america de cali

Thanks tom, by you chasing the bucks, our net result looks to be hogan, Barry and dawes, I think we should be extremely happy

I'm not averse to getting him but I hope we don't give up pick 20 for him. We need midfielders and I hope we have picks 4 & 20 to use on them.

http://www.afl.com.a...51/default.aspx

Everything about Walsh screams "[censored]".

It.s called negotiating P_Man

Walsh wouldn't be earning his coin if he didn't make these noises.

Dawes will arrive in the Red & Blue & it will be on our terms, the Pies must move him on & they know it.

Neeld will sit tight...FINALLY Melbourne are slowly becoming the HUNTER instead of the hunted! PIck 39 and Gysberts is fair in my opinion.

Isn't/wasn't every draftee a Dee's supporter as a kid?

Seems about right. The current crop of players in the 25yo age group would have been young and impressionable when we were playing in Grand Finals in the late 80s.

Thanks tom, by you chasing the bucks, our net result looks to be hogan, Barry and dawes, I think we should be extremely happy

Plus pick 4.

Plus pick 4.

Pick 3 (Hogan) is more our "reward" for finishing 16th in '012 no?

Net return for Scully is more pick 4, Dawes and Barry.

I'm not averse to getting him but I hope we don't give up pick 20 for him. We need midfielders and I hope we have picks 4 & 20 to use on them.

Very true. 2 or 3 hulking forwards will be usless without quality supply. Need to bolster defence too. And where the basic skills that have gone missing for years coming from?

Edited October 12, 201213 yr by america de cali

W

When the deck chairs stop shuffling and elan and results start appearing in that order I will ditch my cynicism. Have heard too many tiresome excuses that justify our lameness.

I don't think the Club made excuses this year especially the players. In a way there were plenty of external reasons which added to the abominal year that we had. I also don't believe that the changes that have been made both during the year and with this draft period that the Club is "shuffling deck chairs". There are major player changes some of which it will be sad to lose ie Rivers and some others who previously would still be at the Club (Moloney) have been given the chop. These changes have been made by a strong Club that is endeavouring to change a culture and ethic that has weighed us down for years. That is not moving things around to pretend that changes are underway. If you expect major results next year you will be disappointed. We will though be a harder and more competitive Club than we have been for some time. Can't you be excited about the prospect of Jack V,Dawes, Pederson and Hogan waiting in the wings. Roo supporters are furious that the Club have let Pederson go. Neeld and Co have come up trumps so far. With Neeld, Craig and Misson there are no excuses for poor development of the younger brigade. Personally I can't wait for the season to start.