Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere, but if no other club makes Moloney an offer has Melbourne FC made any public statements about whether or not it would offer him a new contract? Or will he just be let go and I guess end up in the draft?

I think that Moloney has left the club, so I doubt we would offer him a contract, even his manager(?) has said he's contacted 17 clubs trying to get him a contract, the 18th club being us as the one he hasn't.

I think he has screwed Moloney good and proper.

Oh kay... so some of us aren't learning our lessons here. Look at how Melbourne have sought to build our list over the last 5 years by playing for high draft picks and compare that to how the Swans have gone about it, bringing in second tier players from other clubs and turning them into quality role players. Adam Goodes is the only star on that team and an aging one at that yet they beat the star-studded Hawks in the Grand Final with a bunch of role players. It's definitely time we start rethinking how we go about putting our team together.

I think Hawthorn have a couple of stars but they are mainly good disciplined players; I don't see them as a star studded team. Just my take on it.

I think Hawthorn have a couple of stars but they are mainly good disciplined players; I don't see them as a star studded team. Just my take on it.

Yeh, I'd agree really. They have a strong culture and good disciplined players who know their roles. Which only reinforces my point that these are the sort of players we should be looking to bring in through FA and the trade.

Not looking for future superstars through the draft.

Pretty sure every club that loses a player to FA is compensated with a pick, it's part of the system...

I realise we will get a compo pick, I said he isn't worth one.

I think that Moloney has left the club, so I doubt we would offer him a contract, even his manager(?) has said he's contacted 17 clubs trying to get him a contract, the 18th club being us as the one he hasn't.

I think he has screwed Moloney good and proper.

Could Moloney be the "Leon Davis" of 2013?

Could Moloney be the "Leon Davis" of 2013?

Good chance he may have to come back to Melbourne, cap in hand, if he wants to continue playing AFL football; by putting us offside he's effectively burnt his bridges but we may have something if all else fails, who knows.

With Neeld bringing in Magner, Couch and Sellar for season 2012 - all older than 20 years with mature bodies - I reckon we can determine that he knows we need ready-made stop gap players to tide us over until our list matures. Interesting though that he was not sold on Moloney, Bate or Petterd being these stop gap players. He requires a certain attitude to accompany the bigger body and is uncompromising on this. However, I can't see us shifting 15 players during FA / trade / draft.

With the three who are already gone - Lawrence, Green, Moloney - I reckon he will shift another 6-7 at the maximum.

If Neeld continues with the mentality he has shown so far

1. Approx 3 of the newer players will be early twenties, big bodies, and either not getting a game at their AFL club ( like Cam Pederson) or showing great form in VFL / SANFL / WAFL.
   
2. 2 via FA / trade for exisiting AFL players (these two players are of vital importance to the Dees in 2013)
   
3. Approx 5 in the draft - we know Viney will be one of these.
   

There is not a lot of pure talent available to us in FA / trade but we have to get the best aviable that suit our needs. Of course, some of the draft positions might be caught up in the trading and there can be lots of variations but we can't go too far on drafting 18 yo kids, or filling up with other team rejects. The 2 existing AFL players we try to trade for have got to be ready to play and worth our while - maybe Shannon Byrnes from Geelong and Koby Stevens from WCE or other similar types? The two players we do trade for have to be able to come straight in.

Could Moloney be the "Leon Davis" of 2013?

Probably not the best analogy, Collingwood did offer Davis a contract, but he didn't rate it, and chose to go back West didn't he?

I think several clubs would have taken Davis had he chosen to go anywhere.

With Neeld bringing in Magner, Couch and Sellar for season 2012 - all older than 20 years with mature bodies - I reckon we can determine that he knows we need ready-made stop gap players to tide us over until our list matures. Interesting though that he was not sold on Moloney, Bate or Petterd being these stop gap players. He requires a certain attitude to accompany the bigger body and is uncompromising on this. However, I can't see us shifting 15 players during FA / trade / draft.

With the three who are already gone - Lawrence, Green, Moloney - I reckon he will shift another 6-7 at the maximum.

If Neeld continues with the mentality he has shown so far

1. Approx 3 of the newer players will be early twenties, big bodies, and either not getting a game at their AFL club ( like Cam Pederson) or showing great form in VFL / SANFL / WAFL.
   
2. 2 via FA / trade for exisiting AFL players (these two players are of vital importance to the Dees in 2013)
   
3. Approx 5 in the draft - we know Viney will be one of these.
   

There is not a lot of pure talent available to us in FA / trade but we have to get the best aviable that suit our needs. Of course, some of the draft positions might be caught up in the trading and there can be lots of variations but we can't go too far on drafting 18 yo kids, or filling up with other team rejects. The 2 existing AFL players we try to trade for have got to be ready to play and worth our while - maybe Shannon Byrnes from Geelong and Koby Stevens from WCE or other similar types? The two players we do trade for have to be able to come straight in.

I think you have forgotten LJ

That makes four if you count Lawerence who was a rookie.

Oh kay... so some of us aren't learning our lessons here. Look at how Melbourne have sought to build our list over the last 5 years by playing for high draft picks and compare that to how the Swans have gone about it, bringing in second tier players from other clubs and turning them into quality role players. Adam Goodes is the only star on that team and an aging one at that yet they beat the star-studded Hawks in the Grand Final with a bunch of role players. It's definitely time we start rethinking how we go about putting our team together.

And they built that list through shrewd trading and drafting, not picking up free agents. Melbourne on the other hand has drafted relatively poorly and has had very poor player development, both areas we are hoping to see improve under the new football department, so I don't see the lessons of the past really applying.

I have nothing against free agency as long as there is someone out there worth getting, but I'm not seeing it at the moment. For my money the only one I would like to see at the club is Byrnes.

HIs manager is a moron.

His manager took a chance to start to hawk him around while he has some decent form, that form has longsince evaporated. He will be finding it hard to find any other club to offer him a better deal than what Melbourne was probably going to offer him. Good luck though he was good while he was with us.

According to the trade websites Moloney has lodged papers with the Lions...

Remember that if Essendung take BJ our pick 13 becomes 14.

Not necessarily -- could be a case of St Kilda signing a free agent themselves, thereby downgrading any compensation.

Not necessarily -- could be a case of St Kilda signing a free agent themselves, thereby downgrading any compensation.

they want a Ruckman & Caddy from GC...

Good chance he may have to come back to Melbourne, cap in hand, if he wants to continue playing AFL football; by putting us offside he's effectively burnt his bridges but we may have something if all else fails, who knows.

Moloney is done at Melbourne - I guarantee it.

on the news tonight they linekd him to the Lions as said here. Just have to wait for the paperwork.

Also his managers talks how St Kilda will wait the 72 hours to give an answer, whereas they let BG go today, no fuss.

Which means his manager hasn't really worked out how things are going to work with FA.

Just reading this article on the AFL website. If his agent has made overtures to every other club, I suspect that signs are not terribly good for Beamer. Surely if he has real value the clubs should be making offers to him? To me this sounds a lot like they are not getting any bites and are willing to take pretty much any offer they get.

who cares? he moved on from melbourne. more importantly what are melbourne doing at this crucial time of the year? no point bagging out moloney. moloney, rivers will be snapped up and so will Jurrah. 3 very good players that need replacing just to get back to square one.

Confirmed,that Moloney has lodged his papers with the Lions

Trav mk. 2

Except we'll get a shittier pick for him.

Bye....

beamer, beamer beamer!

You should always ensure you have a new job before you announce to the country that your handing in your resignation!

silly boy

Confirmed,that Moloney has lodged his papers with the Lions

Confirmed where?

Confirmed,that Moloney has lodged his papers with the Lions

Fitzroy aren't the Lions anymore, they're the Reds.