Barrack for Carlton. If Essendon fall out of the 8, our mid-first round essentially moves up 1 pick, due to Essendon taking Daniher F/S.

Didn't think of this, but good point. Makes the decision a no-brainer for me. Despite my detesting of Carlton only being equaled by that of my hate of the Pies, I'm happy to barrack for them if it increases the value of one of our valuable first round picks. Go Blues!!

No injuries please, but a good melee would make me laugh, really want Essendon out of the eight so yes to Carlton winning. Keen to see both St Kilda and Geelong in the Finals, while far from being a supporter I love an underdog, and St Kilda in the finals would be huge. My nasty side has really enjoyed Essendon's 'fall from grace' since they lost to us.

Like a few have said I loathe Collingwood, Carlton, Essendon, Hawthorn and can't love any of the interstate teams except Sydney just a little bit. Figures of hate over the years have been Elliot, Kernahan, Long, Lloyd, Kennett, Wallis, HFC and EFC during 80's just cos. Collingwood - because they pinched my GF's whisky bottle.

Yet again this has been a season when the press (sorry WJ but i like bagging the media) got on the bandwagon early talking up Essendon and Carlton, way before it was justified. If I was a bit more OCD, I'd be mailing the writers their clippings about Carlton and Essendon.

In terms of team potential, and how good the team is at meeting their potential, this is how I'd group the league at the moment (maybe another thread I suppose).

Tier 1 (think Regiment (SAS)) teams in the comp IMHO (in no order) are Hawthorn, Geelong, Sydney, St Kilda,

Tier 2 (think Commandos) Adelaide, Collingwood,

Tier 3 (2RAR) Carlton, Essendon, Kangaroos, West Coast, Richmond,

Tier 4 (Chocos) Brisbane, Bulldogs, Freo,

Tier 5 (Bangladeshi Peace Keepers) Us, GFC, GWS, Port

Obviously the big in-consistency in this grouping because its outside the eight is St Kilda, but my argument is that with a coaching change, age of the list, and the heartbreak of some close GF's the fact that they are still about the mark with an old core says great things about the StK culture which used to be the worst in the league.

I really think we could see a bottom 1/2 of the eight get up this year.

I'd rather eat horse manure than barrack for Carlton. Seriously.

Essendon will account for Carlton by 24+

Barrack for a stadium collapse

carlton, but only because i tipped them!

do i HAVE to ?

ps love all the slagging off and insults in this thread , what a hoot ! , keep it up

The reaction of their supporter bases will both be priceless, regardless of who loses. Watching the Bomber Blitz meltdown is high amusing but it will also be funny to listen to fellows who are usually called Mario and Spiro from Carlton call up SEN and do their best impersonation of Pauly from Fat Pizza.

I'd rather eat horse manure than barrack for Carlton. Seriously.

MMMM Horse Manure

MMMM Horse Manure

reminds me of the lady who went to the dentist who told her she would need a filling.

she said that she'd rather have a baby than undergo the drill

to which the dentist said, hurry up and make up your mind, I have to adjust the seat accordingly

Frightengly, now that Carlton is tearing Essendon a new one, they look pretty good to make the 8. If they beat St Kilda it round 23, it will be down to percentage between them and Freo.

So, it might depend on how hard Freo spank us as to whether Carlton make finals...

Lachie Whitfield

Ben Kennedy

Brodie Grundy

Jimmy Toumpas

Lachie Plowman

Dayle Garlett

Jake Stringer

Oliver Wines

Jonathan O'Rourke

Sam Mayes

Troy Menzel

Nick Vlastuin

At least one of those 12 names will be on the board for us to choose with our 3rd pick if Carlton wins, all of which I'd be bloody happy with.

Good result today, they will both miss out on finals

96 points. thats gotta hird.

Looking ahead at the fixture, I'd say the most likely outcome for end of season placings is a sight for sore eyes.

7. North/Freo

8. Freo/North

9. Carlton

10. Essendon

Both Carlton and Essendon miss out on finals, and our mid round pick comes directly after 10th placed Essendon (where they will take Daniher, thereby turning our pick 12 into effectively pick 11).

That would take just the slightest bit of sting out of the wound that was 2012.

I have North beating Freo next week - meaning it'll come down to Carlton vs St Kilda and, the night before, how much the Dockers [censored] us by.

Has a team ever fallen in a bigger heap than this? I mean, early form means nada, but they were flying. Injuries and losses and season over... oh my heart bleeds for them.

Has a team ever fallen in a bigger heap than this? I mean, early form means nada, but they were flying. Injuries and losses and season over... oh my heart bleeds for them.

It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling!

To think the Melbourne loss has cost them the spot in the finals makes me smile! Our only "real" win for the year! No other non expansion club lost to us. Says were shocking, but they will rue that one for a long time.

Has a team ever fallen in a bigger heap than this? I mean, early form means nada, but they were flying. Injuries and losses and season over... oh my heart bleeds for them.

.....and didn't we actually start the rot, or did we just consolidate it? Feels almost as good as our poaching of Neeld being given as a cause for the Magpies' GF failure last year.

Second year in a row they have imploded

...but...but....they've got the weapon

...and pretty boy

...and bomba

...and

...but...but....they've got the weapon

...and pretty boy

...and bomba

...and

...and about 5000 idiots reading Bomberblitz. That's a lot of keyboards being angrily typed upon.

...and about 5000 idiots reading Bomberblitz. That's a lot of keyboards being angrily typed upon.

I expect there are more sadists from 17 other clubs than there are Essendon supporters in that 5000

Melbourne won, Essendon lost, Collingwood behind half way through the third quarter, what a good weekend.