MCC VS MELBOURNE MEMBERS

[Jordie_tackles 354]

Here is the big one guys,

Who cares about MCC vs MFC whatever.

We had 33K at the game tonight to farewell one of if not out most favoured son of the last 50 years+

It was our home game and i dont really want to guess how many turned up.

If we dont find some members then we wont have a club in 20 years time.

Truly disappointed

[MelbournePassion 7]

Master Demon in our defence, about 5-10 thousand of that 33 thousand that attended today were bulldog supporters. We outnumbered them greatly, and cheered extremely louder too.

[BarrassHarrass 25]

Here is the big one guys,

Who cares about MCC vs MFC whatever.

We had 33K at the game tonight to farewell one of if not out most favoured son of the last 50 years+

It was our home game and i dont really want to guess how many turned up.

If we dont find some members then we wont have a club in 20 years time.

Truly disappointed

I think there were closer to 2000-5000 doggies supporters there. No lie. There were stuff all. We had a pretty dominant Dee's crowd last night. I am both MFC and MCC member but always sit in the MCC. Not because I think I am elitist or anything like that. Usually because it is the most MFC dominant area of the stadium. Thats a fact. It would be nice if more MFC members sat in the old 'red seat section so we could be united on the wing as one supporter group.

I spoke to CS about this some years ago at one of the Youth Summit's. He told me at the time that teh MFC was looking at moving the MFC mmebers backt o the Northern stand and Olympic stands.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

So not tolerating bad behaviour is acting 'elitest' in your opinion?

No saying this is.

The only people who think the MCC has an elitist culture are the sad people who want to be in it but aren't

I've never really had any inclination to join the MCC purely because I just wasn't interested, nothing against it but just not interested. I used to sit in the outer and then the red seats; even when I joined up as a member of the redlegs I still used to sit in the red seats.

I've seen families grow up over the years and kids become parents bringing their own kids to the games it was a great atmosphere. I joined the Legends club and sit next to the members area about 5 or 6 seats away and it's a great view from there, and I can understand why some want to be members but I'm happy where I am and see the same Melbourne supporters there week after week.

To each to his/her own I don't care where anyone wamts to sit, it's just the attitude that sometimes goes with it that annoys.

[Guest José Mourinho]

Well good on you Robbie for finding a spot you're happy with.

I don't usually sit in GA, and subsequently don't have a preferred spot, so I usually end up with the leftovers.

And they're probably the leftovers because of the undesirables nearby.

But that has been my past experience.

FWIW I came across an annoying [censored] of a bulldogs supporter yesterday too in the MCC and had to tell him to shut his mouth.

The thing is that no one wants to lose their membership, so it ended in a civilised fashion.

In GA I'm not sure I'd get the same outcome.

[Tony Tea 2,786]

I very occasionally sit in the outer so that I can meet up with my gardener and cook.

[Dee Dee 1,043]

I've been an MCC and full MFC member for over 40 years (thanks Dad).

I still go and sit with friends on the outside from time to time but prefer the view from the mezzanine stand within the MCC just in front of and handy to the bar.

Remember that the Football Club is a sporting section of the Cricket Club and wandering around the members section one is reminded of the fact at almost every turn,

The portrait of the "team of the century" in the passage way at the rear of the long room (and viewable through a window in the long room), the bronze door outside the dining room depicting the Melbourne Football Club, the MFC display on Bourke Street, lower level Members Stand and the new David Neitz bar on level four.

There is also some nice MFC memorabilia inside the committee room! And of course we have the Albert Chadwick Room and just outside the MCC area there is the Jim Stynes Function Room. No other football club has a real presence within the confines of the MCC.

Among the sporting sections of the Melbourne Cricket Club (tennis, bowls, golf, hockey, baseball, lacross etc) the MFC has along with cricket the most visible presence.

I understand the MFC supporters are in the majority within the MCC membership (but still under 25%) and that Essendon supporters come next at about 12%.

Years ago before the football club broke away from the cricket club, support for the football club was as high as 50%. But since then cricket club membership has trippled and with more and more people applying for membership (I think the waiting list is about 200,000) the member profile has changed and diversified.

[nutbean 8,837]

I very occasionally sit in the outer so that I can meet up with my gardener and cook.

I hate those type of generalisations.

And to the poster who said the biggest amount of MCC members were Collingwood supporters - nonsense - they cant afford the membership price.

[Junior 46]

Wow, a lot of misinformation in this thread.

Anyone who thinks the MCC is 'elitist' has rocks in their head. How could an elitist club have almost 100,000 members, and only cost $600/year in fees??? ANYONE can get on the waiting list, and anyone can enter the stand as a visitor, for the same price as general admission. If it's elitist they are doing a pretty poor job of keeping people out. Anyone who is a sports fan in Melbourne is mad not to be a member IMO, or on the waiting list. All you need to do is attend a few finals matches to get your money's worth each year.

Demons supporters still have the largest representation for MCC members, so whoever said it's Collingwood made that stat up.

As has been pointed out, half of the MCC demons supporters have an MFC membership, and they sit in the MCC so don't even aborb any resources for their fees other than a scarf and calendar. Additionally, as has been pointed out, the MCC provides financial assistant to the Dees each year.

[DemonWA 3,441]

All you say is true, but I think the MCG staff police the loutish behaviour a lot better in the MCC, and I prefer that environment for watching the football.

I prefer being a Larger-lout!

[jackaub 1,402]

I believe the MCC has agreater proportion of Collngwd members than Melbourne supporters. I think I have read that they have only a minority of MFC members and they would probably contain similar proportions of all clubs supporters as the general population.

Its the same thing when you go to the snow, There are as more other teams scarves on display than there are Melbourne but we will always be disparaged as snow bunnies. (I have indicated to the club that we should leverage of this perception and try and attract the snow crowd to join us)

I wear my colours and my allegiance proudly wherever I am and I respect any supporter for any other club who does the same.

I have always welcomed the passion and the banter that support generates.

I know that I have heard comments within and outside the MCC Members that are considered foul or unwholsome. I try to treat them all with a grain of compassion and know that I have made comments that have been perceived as foul .

I always try to think of context and recall to others that often foul language or inappropriate behaviour is a consequence of frustration and is unintended Its why an apology is often the best course of action

With regard to foul language I often remind people of the context and intent There is no better example than the word bugger

I think Ill bugger off now.

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I believe that 28% of MCC members support the dees slightly behind Pies and more than the bombers I saw some survey results last year but cannot remember where I saw them

[Dee Fan 3,247]

Wow, a lot of misinformation in this thread.

Anyone who thinks the MCC is 'elitist' has rocks in their head. How could an elitist club have almost 100,000 members, and only cost $600/year in fees??? ANYONE can get on the waiting list, and anyone can enter the stand as a visitor, for the same price as general admission. If it's elitist they are doing a pretty poor job of keeping people out. Anyone who is a sports fan in Melbourne is mad not to be a member IMO, or on the waiting list. All you need to do is attend a few finals matches to get your money's worth each year.

Demons supporters still have the largest representation for MCC members, so whoever said it's Collingwood made that stat up.

As has been pointed out, half of the MCC demons supporters have an MFC membership, and they sit in the MCC so don't even aborb any resources for their fees other than a scarf and calendar. Additionally, as has been pointed out, the MCC provides financial assistant to the Dees each year.

I don't think the MCC is elitist but I think some of the members think it is.

[nutbean 8,837]

_{from 2007}

_{Melbourne 22%}

_{Essendon 14%}

_{Collingwood 12%}

_{Carlton 9%}

_{Hawthorn 8%}

_{Richmond 8%}

_{Geelong 8%}

_{Other 20%}

[Guest José Mourinho]

I don't think the MCC is elitist but I think some of the members think it is.

You love trying to tell people what they think Robbie.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

You love trying to tell people what they think Robbie.

Sometimes people need a little help, sometimes a lot, you know how it is; don't you?

[45HG 1,539]

In terms of the MFC-MCC supporter conversation, I always find it funny how people "bash" MCC members who support the Dees.

Pretty consistently, the MCC is quite full - often with MFC fans as was the case yesterday. If Melbourne has 23,000 supporters in the MCC, then I'd say about half of them attend most weeks.

If Melbourne has approximately 160,000 other supporters, I'd say about 10% of those attend most weeks.

Note: this is only my personal opinion and may be skewed because I sit within the MCC. Someone who sits in the Southern stand may have a better view.

[Dr. Gonzo 22,452]

Remember that the Football Club is a sporting section of the Cricket Club and wandering around the members section one is reminded of the fact at almost every turn,

The portrait of the "team of the century" in the passage way at the rear of the long room (and viewable through a window in the long room), the bronze door outside the dining room depicting the Melbourne Football Club, the MFC display on Bourke Street, lower level Members Stand and the new David Neitz bar on level four.

There is also some nice MFC memorabilia inside the committee room! And of course we have the Albert Chadwick Room and just outside the MCC area there is the Jim Stynes Function Room. No other football club has a real presence within the confines of the MCC.

Among the sporting sections of the Melbourne Cricket Club (tennis, bowls, golf, hockey, baseball, lacross etc) the MFC has along with cricket the most visible presence.

That's the problem - the MFC supporters/members who aren't MCC don't have access to anything like this - there are MFC members areas and the other "rooms" (Hassett etc) for members but it's not the same. It is very exclusive and is an impediment to the MFC expanding it's supporter base as we are not able to open the doors to all comers due to a large part of our history existing behind the closed doors of the MCC.

[Dee Dee 1,043]

That's the problem - the MFC supporters/members who aren't MCC don't have access to anything like this - there are MFC members areas and the other "rooms" (Hassett etc) for members but it's not the same. It is very exclusive and is an impediment to the MFC expanding it's supporter base as we are not able to open the doors to all comers due to a large part of our history existing behind the closed doors of the MCC.

Unfortunately the history of the football club is inexorably linked to that of the cricket club and that's a fact we must live with.

Anyone who supports the Dee's and would like to become a cricket club member put your name down now!

Yes it takes maybe 20 or more years it's well worth the effort.

I have a friend who became a member at the age of 68. He put his name down when he was 50! He reckons he has maybe 15 to 20 years of membership to enjoy!

Better late than never (and he's a Carlton supporter).

[saka888 54]

If all our supporters in the MCC and AFL members who don't buy MFC memberships (not the $50 donation type) spent that money on MFC memberships the club would be in a much stronger position. My family used to be AFL Gold Members and are now Tridents members. The way the AFL treats us I couldn't support them anymore than I had to. If those in the MCC had the same thinking we would easily have 40K members and would be an extra few million dollars a year better off.

People forget the MCC is older than the MFC and older than the AFL/VFL itself, MCC is more than just football, its a community that offers other sports - golf, lacrosse, baseball, tennis, lawn bowls, real tennis, shooting, field hockey and squash to its members, A little more than just a scarf and a half assed team!

[Footynut 302]

People forget the MCC is older than the MFC and older than the AFL/VFL itself, MCC is more than just football, its a community that offers other sports - golf, lacrosse, baseball, tennis, lawn bowls, real tennis, shooting, field hockey and squash to its members, A little more than just a scarf and a half assed team!

gonzo you seem to portray that the problem with the MFC is the MCC and their members and doors...

Is that right?

Surely the club needs to be more than just about the old links to the MCC?

[Dr. Gonzo 22,452]

People forget the MCC is older than the MFC and older than the AFL/VFL itself, MCC is more than just football, its a community that offers other sports - golf, lacrosse, baseball, tennis, lawn bowls, real tennis, shooting, field hockey and squash to its members, A little more than just a scarf and a half assed team!

I could not give a stuff about lacrosse, golf, squash, tennis or any of those other poncey sports.

gonzo you seem to portray that the problem with the MFC is the MCC and their members and doors...

Is that right?

Surely the club needs to be more than just about the old links to the MCC?

Not sure what you're getting at here? My point is if those with MCC/AFL memberships (who can't afford an MFC membership as well) bought an MFC Premium membership instead it would go a very long way to helping our club not only have more members but having more cash to invest in our club and team. The other issue is with regards to the "exclusivity" of the MCC which as pointed out is where a lot of our history is however this excludes many members/supporters and would-be members/supporters from being a part of the MFC.

[Sorge 9]

Was at the game last week in the MCC liked it have been a few times but I really like

Just sitting with mfc members more than the prestige of the MCC what do you guys think ?

Me too went there ( mcc ) for the first time twice last year and absolutely hated it. The place has no atmosphere and reminded me of a giant shopping mall without shops.

[rpfc 27,476]

e

I believe that 28% of MCC members support the dees slightly behind Pies and more than the bombers I saw some survey results last year but cannot remember where I saw them

http://www.mcc.org.au/Club%20Sport/Melbourne%20Football%20Club.aspx

"More than 20,000 MCC members support the Melbourne Football Club, which remains the most popular AFL team among our membership."

[Disco Demons 92]

MCC and MFC used to be the same entity...they split in the 70's or 80's.

I'm an MCC/MFC member. The MCC prides itself on history. I believe the MCC has started giving more to MFC.

[nutbean 8,837]

That's the problem - the MFC supporters/members who aren't MCC don't have access to anything like this - there are MFC members areas and the other "rooms" (Hassett etc) for members but it's not the same. It is very exclusive and is an impediment to the MFC expanding it's supporter base as we are not able to open the doors to all comers due to a large part of our history existing behind the closed doors of the MCC.

What a nonsense - there a lots of other clubs that have their home at the G . The MFC offer lots of different levels of memberships and "clubs and rooms " like the redlegs etc with different levels of facilities that has nothing to do with the MCC. I would suggest that our attachment to the MCC plays zero part in influencing or attracting new membership.