On 15/12/2011 at 10:07, Whispering_Jack said:

I'm not certain that Max was part of ruck plan # 1 in the first place

Exactly. Surely ruck plan # 1 is the combo of Jamar and Martin which was one of the few highlights of 2011.

  On 15/12/2011 at 11:13, ox_5 said:

Exactly. Surely ruck plan # 1 is the combo of Jamar and Martin which was one of the few highlights of 2011.

Well, then, pedants (and I recognize you from afar, usually being one myself, but slipped up here), maybe I should have said a new ruck plan #2 then.....though, until they picked up all these monsters in trading and drafting I did briefly wonder whether Stef may have been possibly earmarked for CHB / FB, or possibly CHF next year -- clearly won't need to be the case now.

I know that the coaches have no idea of who is going to play where next year and they won't have an idea until feb/march. A lot of water to flow under the bridge between now and then.

Is only a 4-6 weeker but knowing our medico s it will be a 8-10 weeker. For some unkown reason throughout the year we had guys who were always at the 4-6 week mark from returning to full fitness, hopefully this trend ends with big Max. Good that he will be back after Christmas, will be fine for VFL Round 1, maybe the Dees never know. Lucky we have Spencil though!!

  On 15/12/2011 at 15:34, DEELIRIOUS said:

Is only a 4-6 weeker but knowing our medico s it will be a 8-10 weeker. For some unkown reason throughout the year we had guys who were always at the 4-6 week mark from returning to full fitness, hopefully this trend ends with big Max.

FWIW, we replaced our fitness guy and doctors.

  On 15/12/2011 at 15:44, Rogue said:

FWIW, we replaced our fitness guy and doctors.

I understand that the old doctors resigned but have we announced replacements?

  On 15/12/2011 at 20:22, Whispering_Jack said:

I understand that the old doctors resigned but have we announced replacements?

I don't believe we have; at least not through the website. Surely we'd have to figure that out soon though.

I dare to say he won't be playing for 3-4 months, which will have him ready near round 1.

  On 15/12/2011 at 14:29, skills32 said:

I know that the coaches have no idea of who is going to play where next year and they won't have an idea until feb/march. A lot of water to flow under the bridge between now and then.

Do you really think so?

I would think by now that that would have (not so much fixed but) very solid ideas as to what "roles" most players will be asked to fill in a hypothetical "ideal situation".

Of course they will have to be adaptable.

From twitter -

gawndog37 Max Gawn

In today, surgeon is positive. Thinking im going to get the inbetweeners series

  On 15/12/2011 at 05:18, Whispering_Jack said:

My two sons played a substantial amount of football at both senior (amateurs) and junior level and never suffered knee injuries (they copped others but their knees were free from trouble).

On the other hand my daughter suffered an acl injury playing netball. She subsequently didn't play sport for two years before making a comeback with her netball team.

She lasted four weeks before injuring the same knee and we feared the worst. However, it turned out that she suffered a medial meniscus tear

One of our daughters also had a knee reconstuction - ACL & PCL - following a netball injury - and then subsequently had a hip reconstrucion ( peri-ascetabular osteotomy - a truly massive operation of car-crash dimensions ) on the same side

In this context it is noteworthy that recently released Wikileaks documents reveal that the official rules of netball were enacted in 1960 following advice from a group of previously-underemployed orthopaedic surgeons who came up with the rules after a post-conference all night drinking session.

They were having trouble meeting their private airfield fees and their stroke of genius to solve this problem was the insistence on a dead stop upon taking possession of the ball.

Thus they fly the clear blue skies to this day

(parents of young children take note - at least with basketball you can still keep moving)

  On 16/12/2011 at 07:39, Crompton said:

Thus they fly the clear blue skies to this day

(parents of young children take note - at least with basketball you can still keep moving)

I spent many a Saturday watching netball matches and found the sport problematic because of the prohibition on the good old fashioned hip and shoulder.

Sustaining a knee injury is such a dull and uninteresting way to get hurt.

Crompton, I think I can summarise - Netball: a game designed by orthopaedic surgeons for orthopaedic surgeons.

  On 15/12/2011 at 05:18, Whispering_Jack said:

On the other hand my daughter suffered an acl injury playing netball. She subsequently didn't play sport for two years before making a comeback with her netball team.

She lasted four weeks before injuring the same knee and we feared the worst. However, it turned out that she suffered a medial meniscus tear - same as Max.

I've just checked this out with her and she emailed me that the surgery on the medial meniscus tear was a minor operation and much shorter than the reconstruction. She was already walking on it within a week and it was close to fully healed after a month or so although she was still doing physio etc for quite a while. For sportspeople who have access to quick surgery and good rehab facilities, it shouldn't be a problem.

I have to quote her last line to show how long she's been out of the football loop:-

He won't even miss the Ansett Cup if he has surgery now.

In my defence re the Ansett Cup - the last time I went to a football game, and I am not exaggerating, is the 2000 Grand Final. (Ok maybe the Ansett Cup was already the Wizard Cup or whatever you kids are calling it these days)

In the meantime, I wish Max Gawn all the best and a speedy recovery - the surgery is nothing compared to the ACL. The trainers should make sure he gets into the pool as soon as the wounds heal.

  On 16/12/2011 at 13:07, santiago said:

In my defence re the Ansett Cup - the last time I went to a football game, and I am not exaggerating, is the 2000 Grand Final. (Ok maybe the Ansett Cup was already the Wizard Cup or whatever you kids are calling it these days)

In the meantime, I wish Max Gawn all the best and a speedy recovery - the surgery is nothing compared to the ACL. The trainers should make sure he gets into the pool as soon as the wounds heal.

I don't think the Wizard people exist any more either.

Obviously any knee injury is bad news, but certainly a better result than what could've been. Considering the innocuous incidents in recent years that have turned out to be season ending, i'm glad one's fallen our way.

All the best with recovery Maxy!

  On 16/12/2011 at 13:07, santiago said:

In my defence re the Ansett Cup - the last time I went to a football game, and I am not exaggerating, is the 2000 Grand Final. (Ok maybe the Ansett Cup was already the Wizard Cup or whatever you kids are calling it these days)

Heh - you might not've been to the footy in a while, but I've got some other bad news for you: Ansett went out of business in 2001. Sorry to break the news to you this way.

Don't think we'll be seeing Max in the Commodore Cup

They found an ACL tear and he will now miss all of 2012... Damn!

Christ - He's Gawn for the season. What a loss!

Lucky we have a few back ups for the ruck position

It's hard luck but will be character building.

Max - your sponsors are 100% behind you and wish you well on your recovery and rehab!

Boo. He is such a promising prospect, such a bummer that he's out for the year.

I guess this means if we end up needing a back up ruckman (i.e. one of Jamar or Martin gets injured) it'll be Spencer. Wow.

Poor Maxy, out for the whole 2012 season. Let's hope he doesn't keep getting injured in the future.

  On 17/12/2011 at 05:37, Stylus said:

They found an ACL tear and he will now miss all of 2012... Damn!

Bummer - was that confirmed on an official site?