On 04/11/2011 at 05:03, daisycutter said:

not having a go at you, but my sister was a nympho and it didn't help me at all

What, you wanted to sleep with your sister?

Seriously, if one can be after that post, how would her being one help you anyway, if she really was?

  On 04/11/2011 at 08:15, RalphiusMaximus said:

Anyone know the times they set? MN said he wanted the mids to be doing low 10's or 9's. How close did they get?

Well, Jack Trengove tweeted about 3 hours ago:

"No shock to hear@nathan2jones crossing the line 1st in the 3km time trial this morning. Sub 10min in movember is impressive."

Nathan Jones finished in under 10 minutes.

Interesting to hear that they're already working on skills, not to mention The New Game Plan.

  On 04/11/2011 at 08:17, Redleg said:

What, you wanted to sleep with your sister?

Seriously, if one can be after that post, how would her being one help you anyway, if she really was?

that was the point (re JT's sister)

.......but it was expressed a bit ambiguously

  On 04/11/2011 at 06:40, Benno said:

Dislike the new training tops. Who designs these things

They're awful aren't they? ... Worst we've had in quite a few years. The red looks brown. Even last year's dodgy M T-shirts were better. Damnit!

  On 04/11/2011 at 03:46, stevethemanjordan said:

Exactly.

I couldn't give a flying f*#k who wins the any of the running trials.

Okay. Let's talk about how the team is going on the field instead.

Oh wait...

I played cricket with guys who could go sub 10, and they weren't full time athletes...

From memory some of the elite runners in the AFL get low 9's (Judd could run 9m 20s ?)...

To put that in perspective, the world record for the 3000 metres is 7m 20...

All our mids / running players should be around the 10 minute mark...

  On 04/11/2011 at 12:02, vanlo said:

I played cricket with guys who could go sub 10, and they weren't full time athletes...

From memory some of the elite runners in the AFL get low 9's (Judd could run 9m 20s ?)...

To put that in perspective, the world record for the 3000 metres is 7m 20...

All our mids / running players should be around the 10 minute mark...

Bet they weren't built like Jones though. Or Bail or McDonald for that matter. But I do agree with you, if you are serious about playing in the midfield at AFL level you have to be around or below 10. Jones and Bail are there, Moloney wasn't too far off.

Where are Sylvia, McKenzie, Trengove and Gysberts. Well I think Trenners would be around there, and McKenzie and Sylvia are in the rehab group, and I think Gysberts has a bit of work to do.

I'd like to see more of the half backs and half forwards up there. Howe and Dunn obviously have tanks based on their performance, as does Nicholson. But we need Strauss, Grimes, Bennell, Petterd, Morton all busting out big times, problem is a lot of them are in the rehab group.

  On 04/11/2011 at 12:11, the master said:

Bet they weren't built like Jones though. Or Bail or McDonald for that matter. But I do agree with you, if you are serious about playing in the midfield at AFL level you have to be around or below 10. Jones and Bail are there, Moloney wasn't too far off.

Where are Sylvia, McKenzie, Trengove and Gysberts. Well I think Trenners would be around there, and McKenzie and Sylvia are in the rehab group, and I think Gysberts has a bit of work to do.

I'd like to see more of the half backs and half forwards up there. Howe and Dunn obviously have tanks based on their performance, as does Nicholson. But we need Strauss, Grimes, Bennell, Petterd, Morton all busting out big times, problem is a lot of them are in the rehab group.

From the replies earlier it is 3.2 kms, so that should add about 30 seconds to the 3 km time. May not seem like much, but 10 minutes would be average for 3km, but very good for 3.2.

  On 04/11/2011 at 09:01, daisycutter said:

that was the point (re JT's sister)

.......but it was expressed a bit ambiguously

You made, at best, a very weird post. I'm pretty sure it has been seen by most as seriously creepy. If I was you I would lay low for a few days and hope it blows over.

Chris Judd broke Carlton's 3.2km time trial record in 2007 with a time of 10:30

http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/judd-lapping-up-new-fitness/story-e6frg1wu-1111115169659

I'm say anything under 10min would be elite for an AFL midfielder.

This is week 1 of pre-season. I'd expect every one of our midfielders by the end of pre-season to be looking to be under 10min 15 seconds.

For the record, the i know for certain that the following players on our list run beep-tests above 15= Morton, Trengove, Bate, Dunn, Bail, Jones, Bartram, Grimes,

As JR asked where was Jurrah?

  On 04/11/2011 at 12:30, Thomo said:

You made, at best, a very weird post. I'm pretty sure it has been seen by most as seriously creepy. If I was you I would lay low for a few days and hope it blows over.

I can't see how anyone could misinterpret his intention without being purposely mischievous or seriously obtuse.

  On 04/11/2011 at 12:39, sylvinator said:

Chris Judd broke Carlton's 3.2km time trial record in 2007 with a time of 10:30

http://www.perthnow....u-1111115169659

I'm say anything under 10min would be elite for an AFL midfielder.

This is week 1 of pre-season. I'd expect every one of our midfielders by the end of pre-season to be looking to be under 10min 15 seconds.

For the record, the i know for certain that the following players on our list run beep-tests above 15= Morton, Trengove, Bate, Dunn, Bail, Jones, Bartram, Grimes,

It appears you can add Nicholson to that list. Probably spent all his holidays training, which is exactly what I'd be doing if I were gunning for a position on the senior list.

Anybody have any idea who the other bloke was who was running with jones, bail and nicholson? It didn't look like Tom McDonald, too short. He led them off the start line in the footage also

  On 04/11/2011 at 21:39, whelan45 said:

Anybody have any idea who the other bloke was who was running with jones, bail and nicholson? It didn't look like Tom McDonald, too short. He led them off the start line in the footage also

Maybe Evans?

Hmm not sure, I think Evans hair might be darker. Jack Viney maybe?

It's Tom McDonald.

It is definitely not Tom McDonald on the footage. Tom is much taller than this guy.

From what I saw, there is a small glimpse of a warm down at the start of the footage and that guy is in track pants and is also in a red top different to every player. I would assume he is involved in some capacity as a fitness coach.

I would post a picture but I have no idea how.

It's Tom MacDonald.

He looks the same height as Bail, but it is an optical illusion because he's actually about 10m or more behind the first 3.

It's not Tom. Watch the video of them running around the oval as a pack (0:13s) - you'll see Mcdonald in a blue top with Bate, Jamar and Davis, whilst the guy in the red is further back and he is definitely shorter than the rest (and looking at his watch - pretty sure he is some sort of fitness guy).

  On 04/11/2011 at 10:12, Nasher said:

Okay. Let's talk about how the team is going on the field instead.

Oh wait...

Sorry.

That was more of a frustrated remark with no explanation of what I meant.

Here is an explanation.

I hope people don't think that finishing top whatever in a 3km time trial means they are in for a top year, or that they are going to be a champion in years to come, or that we've got a 'keeper'.

Again I will ask the Morton lover's.

Where is this 'elite running ability'?

Where the feck was he?

In other news...it's definitely not Tom. Looks nothing like him.

  On 05/11/2011 at 02:34, stevethemanjordan said:

Sorry.

That was more of a frustrated remark with no explanation of what I meant.

Here is an explanation.

I hope people don't think that finishing top whatever in a 3km time trial means they are in for a top year, or that they are going to be a champion in years to come, or that we've got a 'keeper'.

Again I will ask the Morton lover's.

Where is this 'elite running ability'?

Where the feck was he?

This is what I heard:

PART A: "Getting a good 3k result doesn't mean you'll have a good year."

PART B: "Cale Morton didn't get a good 3k result, therefore he must not have any good qualities at all."