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2011 Draft

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Red and Blue Flame Redleg

Red and Blue Flame   142

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Could Someone please tell me what pick we would have if the season were to finish now

Also if someone could give the breakdown of what picks GWS get (basically a full run-down of the draft)

that would be fantastic.

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Could Someone please tell me what pick we would have if the season were to finish now

Also if someone could give the breakdown of what picks GWS get (basically a full run-down of the draft)

that would be fantastic.

I think GWS get something like 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15. Something Hideous like that!! i heard Shifter Sheahan talk about it all on SEN a few weeks back.

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Round One

1 Team GWS

2 Team GWS

3 Team GWS

4 Club 17 on 2011 ladder

5 Team GWS

6 Club 16 on 2011 ladder

7 Team GWS

8 Club 15 on 2011 ladder

9 Team GWS

10 Club 14 on 2011 ladder

11 Team GWS

12 Club 13 on 2011 ladder

13 Team GWS

14 Club 12 on 2011 ladder

15 Team GWS

16 Club 11 on 2011 ladder

17 Club 10 on 2011 ladder

18 Club 9 on 2011 ladder

19 Club 8 on 2011 ladder

20 Club 7 on 2011 ladder

21 Club 6 on 2011 ladder

22 Club 5 on 2011 ladder

23 Club 4 on 2011 ladder

24 Club 3 on 2011 ladder

25 Club 2 on 2011 ladder

26 Club 1 on 2011 ladder

Round Two

27 Team,GWS

28 Club 17 on 2011 ladder

29 Club 16 on 2011 ladder

30 Club 15 on 2011 ladder

31 Club 14 on 2011 ladder

32 Club 13 on 2011 ladder

33 Club 12 on 2011 ladder

34 Club 11 on 2011 ladder

35 Club 10 on 2011 ladder

36 Club 9 on 2011 ladder

37 Club 8 on 2011 ladder

38 Club 7 on 2011 ladder

39 Club 6 on 2011 ladder

40 Club 5 on 2011 ladder

41 Club 4 on 2011 ladder

42 Club 3 on 2011 ladder

43 Club 2 on 2011 ladder

44 Club 1 on 2011 ladder

Round Three

45 Team GWS

46 Team 17 on 2011 ladder

47 Club 16 on 2011 ladder

48 Club 15 on 2011 ladder

49 Club 14 on 2011 ladder

50 Club 13 on 2011 ladder

51 Club 12 on 2011 ladder

52 Club 11 on 2011 ladder

53 Club 10 on 2011 ladder

54 Club 9 on 2011 ladder

55 Club 8 on 2011 ladder

56 Club 7 on 2011 ladder

57 Club 6 on 2011 ladder

58 Club 5 on 2011 ladder

59 Club 4 on 2011 ladder

60 Club 3 on 2011 ladder

61 Club 2 on 2011 ladder

62 Club 1 on 2011 ladder

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Eth Redleg

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I think GWS get something like 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15. Something Hideous like that!! i heard Shifter Sheahan talk about it all on SEN a few weeks back.

GWS get the same concessions, I'm pretty sure, which is picks 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15 and the first pick of every round afterwards.

So as it currently stands, we are in line for pick 19.

Edit: Dammit, ninja'd. And Satan, compensation is decided by...someone I don't know of, but basically there's tiers - first-round pick, end-of-first-round pick, second-round pick, end-of-second-round pick or third-round pick. For the picks not at the end of the round, that pick comes instantly after your pick in that round - e.g. if we finished 8th (pick 19) and used a first-round compensation pick (hypothetically, we currently don't have one) then it would be pick 20, and every pick below us would be pushed back one. So if you finished bottom of the ladder with pick 1, and had a first-round compensation pick, you have the new Scullgove twins. :)

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Would be nice if we could ship out a player (Bate?) to GWS + our first pick for a better pick.

Bate + pick 19 to GWS, pick 5 to Melbourne.

Me gusta.

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GWS get the same concessions, I'm pretty sure, which is picks 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15 and the first pick of every round afterwards.

So as it currently stands, we are in line for pick 19.

Edit: Dammit, ninja'd. And Satan, compensation is decided by...someone I don't know of, but basically there's tiers - first-round pick, end-of-first-round pick, second-round pick, end-of-second-round pick or third-round pick. For the picks not at the end of the round, that pick comes instantly after your pick in that round - e.g. if we finished 8th (pick 19) and used a first-round compensation pick (hypothetically, we currently don't have one) then it would be pick 20, and every pick below us would be pushed back one. So if you finished bottom of the ladder with pick 1, and had a first-round compensation pick, you have the new Scullgove twins. :)

Ta

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Whispering_Jack   27,978

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No matter what happens with you know who, our club should lobby the AFL to ensure that any team which loses a #1 draft selection would be compensated with the first pick in this year's draft. That's a lot fairer than having such a player stolen by GWS for pick 17!

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No matter what happens with you know who, our club should lobby the AFL to ensure that any team which loses a #1 draft selection would be compensated with the first pick in this year's draft. That's a lot fairer than having such a player stolen by GWS for pick 17!

Voldermort yeah?

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No matter what happens with you know who, our club should lobby the AFL to ensure that any team which loses a #1 draft selection would be compensated with the first pick in this year's draft. That's a lot fairer than having such a player stolen by GWS for pick 17!

The response I'll see from the AFL is that if they had to match Tom Scully as a number one pick then they'd have to match Watts, then Kreuzer, Gibbs, Murphy, Deledio and so on. Where would the cutoff be?

From a realistic and common sense point of view it's unfair not to receive the first pick in the event that he left, but from an AFL point of view, it's unfair to give us the first pick.

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The response I'll see from the AFL is that if they had to match Tom Scully as a number one pick then they'd have to match Watts, then Kreuzer, Gibbs, Murphy, Deledio and so on. Where would the cutoff be?

From a realistic and common sense point of view it's unfair not to receive the first pick in the event that he left, but from an AFL point of view, it's unfair to give us the first pick.

If the player hasnt ended his first contract after being taken at that pick, simple

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The response I'll see from the AFL is that if they had to match Tom Scully as a number one pick then they'd have to match Watts, then Kreuzer, Gibbs, Murphy, Deledio and so on. Where would the cutoff be?

From a realistic and common sense point of view it's unfair not to receive the first pick in the event that he left, but from an AFL point of view, it's unfair to give us the first pick.

The AFL point of view should be to protect the integrity of the competition and not to create conditions under which it is well nigh impossible for a club to retain an outstanding player aged under 21.

So there you have my cut off if you like. The players you cite are all over 21 and have all given their clubs more than two years' service. In my view, it's absolutely unconscionable that a situation should be allowed to arise whereby there is even a question of uncertainty about the future of a player of top calibre at such a young age.

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The AFL point of view should be to protect the integrity of the competition and not to create conditions under which it is well nigh impossible for a club to retain an outstanding player aged under 21.

So there you have my cut off if you like. The players you cite are all over 21 and have all given their clubs more than two years' service. In my view, it's absolutely unconscionable that a situation should be allowed to arise whereby there is even a question of uncertainty about the future of a player of top calibre at such a young age.

If the AFL decided to compensate TS for pick 1, I wonder if GWS would abandon the deal.

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The AFL point of view should be to protect the integrity of the competition and not to create conditions under which it is well nigh impossible for a club to retain an outstanding player aged under 21.

So there you have my cut off if you like. The players you cite are all over 21 and have all given their clubs more than two years' service. In my view, it's absolutely unconscionable that a situation should be allowed to arise whereby there is even a question of uncertainty about the future of a player of top calibre at such a young age.

Good luck trying to get the AFL to agree to anything that disadvantages GWS. Won't happen.

Pisses me off that our own CEO supported this rubbish when clubs were being questioned about draft picks and compensation levels for GC/GWS!

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If the AFL decided to compensate TS for pick 1, I wonder if GWS would abandon the deal.

Surely it'd be like all other compensation picks, in that it can be used in any of the next 5 years, but if you use it this year you'd have to wait until GWS had their picks.

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No matter what happens with you know who, our club should lobby the AFL to ensure that any team which loses a #1 draft selection would be compensated with the first pick in this year's draft. That's a lot fairer than having such a player stolen by GWS for pick 17!

The very fact that the club hasn't (publicly at least) lobbied the AFL is a positive sign.

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I can't see why they would care - it's not their pick.

He is saying "if we don't get the first pick in the draft then Scully isn't worth it."

Doesn't hold much water for mine, being pushed back a place is nothing - the talent you are going to get is going to be good anyway...

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The very fact that the club hasn't (publicly at least) lobbied the AFL is a positive sign.

Whereas if you recall last year, Geelong did come out at some stage with concerns about the compensation "IF" they did lose Ablett to GC.

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