'Scully talks'

[Sir Why You Little 34,657]

Sheehan said that that he was very impressed by Tom's sincerity in his speech but next day his doubts seemed to re-emerge. I guess he listened more closely to what Tom said on tape.

or was guided what to write in the papers by his superiors. Mike's Backflip during that 24 hour period was really quite astounding and somewhat surreal.

[The Chazz 4,077]

or was guided what to write in the papers by his superiors. Mike's Backflip during that 24 hour period was really quite astounding and somewhat surreal.

Thanks for bringing that up WYL, I thought I dreamt it! Straight after the presser, Sheehan was convinced that Scully was staying, and even their little online video thingy they do he was sure of it. Then in a matter of hours, he was back on the "he's going" bandwagon. Weird chain of events!

[Sir Why You Little 34,657]

Thanks for bringing that up WYL, I thought I dreamt it! Straight after the presser, Sheehan was convinced that Scully was staying, and even their little online video thingy they do he was sure of it. Then in a matter of hours, he was back on the "he's going" bandwagon. Weird chain of events!

Yes that little video blog with John Anderson he did straight after the presser. (i wonder if we can still access that)

was the complete reverse to the printed form the next day.

[Tricky 337]

And also man didnt actually walk on the moon - it was created in a studio in Hollywood

And 7/11 was perpetrated by zionists as there were phone calls to every Jewish person who worked in the twin towers telling them not to go to work. Not one Jewish person died in the towers collapse.

And Elvis Presley is not really dead but living on a tropical Island with Michael Jackson as his toyboy

Your point ?

Ahhh the old convenience store conspiracy

[beelzebub 22,244]

And 7/11 was perpetrated by zionists as there were phone calls to every Jewish person who worked in the twin towers telling them not to go to work. Not one Jewish person died in

and heres me thinking 7-11's were pepetrated by generally those of the Indian sub-continent in a diabolical scheme to have us addicted to slurpees whilst fleeciing us with inflated product pricing.. Bugger... I got that one wrong..

[beelzebub 22,244]

Ahhh the old convenience store conspiracy

touche...you won this time...lol

[Sir Why You Little 34,657]

and heres me thinking 7-11's were pepetrated by generally those of the Indian sub-continent in a diabolical scheme to have us addicted to slurpees whilst fleeciing us with inflated product pricing.. Bugger... I got that one wrong..

"Thankyou Come Again"

[beelzebub 22,244]

Agree with this up to a point - as an MFC supporter 100% agree but when I put my dispassionate hat on, truth be told, players whose star is in the ascendancy - TS, Cam Bruce for many years, Aaron Davey at last contract negotiation - will have us over a barrel. However can you say to me sitting in Juniors chair that he didnt deserve another year and maybe we forced him into early retirement. We axe players every year - some feel hard done by. Dispassionately, all negotiations and player decisions are governed by demand and supply - there is a demand for TS and an oversupply of Simon Godfrey's. The negotiations go accordingly.

The devil in hindsight...eh.

Im not actually convinced Junior 'deserved' another year, though it might have been handy as it turned out. Still such a combination of events, i.e injuries and the lack of ticker in the usual suspects was not glued on 'tomorrow's notice board"

I n Juniorws case I only think Bailey regrets the manner in which it transpired not the 'matter that it was going to. Theres every likelyhood that Junior would also be on the sidelines given his run ( or lack of ) as time eeked out. I join the chorus that yearn for his leadership on the field , but im not convinced he would have , under normal conditions , made it out here terribly often. But this year has obviously shown the folly of rushing to judgements ...sometime.

Back to Scully. It is by taking my Demon emotion off that I can see much of what this is...for what it is. Hes playing Hold'em...and hes as prepared to swap tables as he is not.

Id back the club to CALL...and I think thats what Jimma was intimating to recently. Maybe just me. Sometimes is ..lol

[nutbean 8,837]

and heres me thinking 7-11's were pepetrated by generally those of the Indian sub-continent in a diabolical scheme to have us addicted to slurpees whilst fleeciing us with inflated product pricing.. Bugger... I got that one wrong..

You see it was 7/11 - but the US government withheld the information and denied it every happening for two months.

(Note - nutbean = dumbass)

(actually it was a conspiracy of my fingers against my brain - my brain typed 9/11 and my fingers conspired with my groin, where my real brain is, to come up with 7/11)

Alright....I'm not having a good day !!!!!!!!

[Roost It 1,434]

And 7/11 was perpetrated by zionists

Is that why they don't sell ham?

[beelzebub 22,244]

those..yanks....cunning b@stards !! lol

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

not one Jewish person died when the 7-11 on the corner of punt and toorak collapsed

[Demonland 65,840]

And also man didnt actually walk on the moon - it was created in a studio in Hollywood.

And 7/11 was perpetrated by zionists as there were phone calls to every Jewish person who worked in the twin towers telling them not to go to work. Not one Jewish person died in the towers collapse.

And Elvis Presley is not really dead but living on a tropical Island with Michael Jackson as his toyboy

Your point?

Careful with these sorts of things. There are millions of people in some parts of the earth who actiually believe that trash.

[nutbean 8,837]

The devil in hindsight...eh.

Im not actually convinced Junior 'deserved' another year, though it might have been handy as it turned out. Still such a combination of events, i.e injuries and the lack of ticker in the usual suspects was not glued on 'tomorrow's notice board"

I n Juniorws case I only think Bailey regrets the manner in which it transpired not the 'matter that it was going to. Theres every likelyhood that Junior would also be on the sidelines given his run ( or lack of ) as time eeked out. I join the chorus that yearn for his leadership on the field , but im not convinced he would have , under normal conditions , made it out here terribly often. But this year has obviously shown the folly of rushing to judgements ...sometime.

Im not debating whether he deserved another crack or not ( I'm with you on all you wrote) - I am argueing that in the negotiation card game - Junior had a hand full of nothing. So decision made - thanks for the memories.

Back to Scully. It is by taking my Demon emotion off that I can see much of what this is...for what it is. Hes playing Hold'em...and hes as prepared to swap tables as he is not.

Playing hold'em ? As most players with currency can and do and again agreed. And whats the pot ? A stack of money against lots of reasons not to go. The key is simply the value TS places on the lots of reasons to stay against the value of the dollar offer to go. My logical reasoning for him to stay is that if the dollars and not miles apart ( and way too good to be true) then as a professional footballer would I want to move away from everything I have in Melbourne ( family, friends, hometown etc) for 3-5 years of development football ?

Id back the club to CALL...and I think thats what Jimma was intimating to recently. Maybe just me. Sometimes is ..lol

Im thinking the club will keep chipping away as Jimma is doing. Negotiation 101 - even though Velocity/TS has set the timetable I would still be gently pressuring him to come to the table sooner than later. Velocity has set the timetable but nothing to be lost by the MFC pulling the chair out from the table and inviting TDS/Velocity to sit and chat earlier than the timetable stated. But as opposed to others thinking on the board - I would logically argue that the MFC are not going to make an ultimatum to him - sign now or play at Casey

[John Crow Batty 8,272]

or was guided what to write in the papers by his superiors. Mike's Backflip during that 24 hour period was really quite astounding and somewhat surreal.

One conspiracy theory at a time please.

[Dalrot 85]

not one Jewish person died when the 7-11 on the corner of punt and toorak collapsed

Real Seinfeld stuff here.

[nutbean 8,837]

not one Jewish person died when the 7-11 on the corner of punt and toorak collapsed

Actually I believe a delivery boy who was delivering Glicks bagels did tragically die but it was covered up by the Melbourne Establishment who thought that if it was too well publicised it would give Diamond Joe a reason to grandstand bringing him back into the public arena.

Oy Gevalt!

[beelzebub 22,244]

Anyhow.. It occurs to me as we mulder over things Scully thatthough we have our views , differing as they are as to the why and the hows of him staying and the shenangans of the process to date, theres somethng else, there would ( possibly ) be quite differing outcomes to compensation depeneding on his status come seasons end.

By this ..If he just goes ..then we are at the beck and call of the AFL as to compensation. Im aware of nothing in stone yet to describe that. If however he was in some way contracted to us but still wanted to chase the bright lights of Blacktown and the streets paved with gold then we'd be in an entirely diofferent position to bargain.

It now to me is as much about what we get as it is does he go.

Again..I have no real qualms should he go. I think weve been stiched up by the AFL in the first place but wold hate to think we'd get whacked twice.

[The Reverend 1,718]

Yes, this season has had its terribly disappointing moments but...

The ease with which Melbourne fans become pathetic, hand-wringers continues to astonish me.

We are not a big club, not at the moment. But you don't become a big club with the defeatist, pathetic attitude some on here show at the first sign of some gloom.

Success isn't linear and we coming from a ways back.

We will get to the summit. We might get there later rather than sooner, with different faces in different places, but we will get there.

For some of us who have been putting up with disappointment since 1964, "later rather than sooner' is hardly comforting. No, I don't want to listen to whinging, but I do want to let the club know how disappointed I am with the way things are progressing. From my point of view we're in the 47th year of a five year recovery plan. I could never be as passionate about another club as I am about the Dees but sometime, someone, somewhere has to say enough is enough and do some serious decision making. If Scully wants to go he's not worth keeping. Just like Ablett. Let him go and concentrate on building a culture around guys like james frawley who at least cares enough to be disappointed and tell the truth. For too long we've given spots to players whose interests begin and end with themselves. When did we see anybody apart from maybe Nathan Jones actually risk his body to make a statement against the Roos. Winning is not everything but I'm sick of copping the "your team's soft" comments from my mates. Let's harden up and demand better. If I hear one more player or coach say "we need to stick to team structures" I'll throw up. Are these the structures that turn 30 point leads into 40 point thrashings? Where is the structure for dealiing with the challenge of physical pressure from the opposition? Haven't seen it yet? This team plays like front runners and receivers. Sensational when not challenged - very poor when the pressure's on.

I've written to the club expressing my concerns and interestingly got no response. Why? No answers? Not good enough.

[Guest Artie Bucco]

Maybe because your letter was rambling as much as your first post?

[The Reverend 1,718]

Which bit would you disagree with?

[beelzebub 22,244]

Nice opening salvo there Crawf.. Welcome to the wailing wall lol

[The Reverend 1,718]

Not what I want to be writing, but there it is, Ive said it. Let's hope things get better and I am made to look stupid.

Edited May 19, 2011 by Crawf52

[old55 21,399]

[Roost It 1,434]

Let's hope things get better and I am made to look stupid.

Shouldn't be a problem