Who's going to get games now?

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

We've lost 3 more top-22 ers to add to the 3 we alread had out (Grimes, Trengove, Jamar, Scully, McKenzie, Rivers)

So 6 blokes are getting a game this week that wouldn't have been. This could motivate the whole of this group and force some talent to bloom. They will be put in more important roles than they otherwise would have and someone could be unearthed. At the very least it is a development period for fringe players that will need to step in over the upcoming years at various stages. Dean Bailey gets the chance to try a few things and a few blokes. This is my attempt at finding the positive.

Bate

Warnock

Wonaeamirri

Tapscott

Gysberts

Bail

Maric

Bennell

Morton

Martin

Blease

Cook

Howe

Strauss

Jetta

Newton

MacDonald plus all the other brand new guys we don't really know yet

This group has room for the best 6 to go to AFL level for the upcoming month or so while the side tries to hang in the 8 until players return.

Who are your 6 players to replace our 6 injured?

For mine:

Grimes - Morton

Trengove - Gysberts

Jamar - Martin

Scully - um... Tapscott

McKenzie - Bail

Rivers - MacDonald

then you've got Bennell, Ozzie and Maric

[RalphiusMaximus 6,048]

I think if the Trengove suspension stands we might see an early elevation of Evans or Nicholson. Strauss is also a chance at getting that spot.

[DemonWA 3,934]

if blease has recovered from concussion maybe give him a run?

[old dee 23,788]

DemonWa and RM both Nicholson and Evans have been much better than Strauss and Blease over the Casey Games so far .

IMO they both deserve a run at senior level before S and B, trouble is they are Rookies and would need to be elevated.

[Guest Artie Bucco]

Depends on the role to be filled.

Blease or Strauss would be better on a HBF than Evans.

But Blease is recovering from concussion and I think would need to re-find form at Casey first and Strauss is recovering from when Dunn ran through him at training in Perth, reportedly putting him out for a month.

It's only been 2 weeks.

[The Chazz 4,077]

Depends on the role to be filled.

Blease or Strauss would be better on a HBF than Evans.

But Blease is recovering from concussion and I think would need to re-find form at Casey first and Strauss is recovering from when Dunn ran through him at training in Perth, reportedly putting him out for a month.

It's only been 2 weeks.

Artie, were you a rookie on an AFL list at some stage and never got promoted?

[dee-luded 2,959]

I think if the Trengove suspension stands we might see an early elevation of Evans or Nicholson. Strauss is also a chance at getting that spot.

I'd prefer that over bringing back Morton or Bennell.

Those rookies really have a go, and in the crushes. That will be important against north at Etihad. AT Edies'hat, you don't want so much outside players, but rather hard running inside type players, with composure.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

Strauss is recovering from when Dunn ran through him at training in Perth, reportedly putting him out for a month.

Where did you hear that?

[Guest Artie Bucco]

Artie, were you a rookie on an AFL list at some stage and never got promoted?

No.

I just understand the reasoning and circumstances related to the promotion of rookies.

And it seems like you don't.

Wish I was though.

[Guest Artie Bucco]

Where did you hear that?

On here, funnily enough.

Not necessarily the best source, but I've no reason to disbelieve it.

I didn't notice anyone come out & refute it.

Can't remember if I also saw it elsewhere, but I'm pretty sure Strauss didn't play on the weekend, which would lend weight to it.

[The Chazz 4,077]

No.

I just understand the reasoning and circumstances related to the promotion of rookies.

And it seems like you don't.

Wish I was though.

What part of Michael Evans' recent form doesn't warrant a rookie promotion, especially now that we have a midfield/half back flanker on the LTI list, and no primary list players showing the form that Evans is at Casey? If, in your opinion, he doesn't deserve such promotion, then what criteria do they have to meet?

The rookie list has been created for situations like this, but your not willing to make use of it? there has to be an underlying factor on your thought process - Evans has the best form at Casey, even better than primary listed players, money shouldn't be an issue, especially if he can take that form in to the seniors, would be worth every cent.

Let's put it this way, at the start of the year we were able to promote 1 rookie becuase of our veteran status. We chose Juice. Let's play hypotheticals now and pretend we took Evans instead. Given our current injury situation, would you be wanting the Club to promote Newton now? I have no doubt you wouldn't given your stand on the rookie situation, but as a replacement for Spencer, we'd have to consider Juice or Campbell. Oh that's right, we shouldn't promote for the sake of promoting.

[daisycutter 29,613]

What part of Michael Evans' recent form doesn't warrant a rookie promotion, especially now that we have a midfield/half back flanker on the LTI list, and no primary list players showing the form that Evans is at Casey? If, in your opinion, he doesn't deserve such promotion, then what criteria do they have to meet?

The rookie list has been created for situations like this, but your not willing to make use of it? there has to be an underlying factor on your thought process - Evans has the best form at Casey, even better than primary listed players, money shouldn't be an issue, especially if he can take that form in to the seniors, would be worth every cent.

Let's put it this way, at the start of the year we were able to promote 1 rookie becuase of our veteran status. We chose Juice. Let's play hypotheticals now and pretend we took Evans instead. Given our current injury situation, would you be wanting the Club to promote Newton now? I have no doubt you wouldn't given your stand on the rookie situation, but as a replacement for Spencer, we'd have to consider Juice or Campbell. Oh that's right, we shouldn't promote for the sake of promoting.

The FD will only promote a rookie when they are ready to play him

So if they deem Evans is ready (which I'm inclined to) he will be promoted - simple as that

(the situation with Juice is a different set of rules and had to be done at season start)

[The Chazz 4,077]

The FD will only promote a rookie when they are ready to play him

So if they deem Evans is ready (which I'm inclined to) he will be promoted - simple as that

(the situation with Juice is a different set of rules and had to be done at season start)

Sorry DC, I thought you would've been able to tell I knew that already!

[The Chazz 4,077]

The FD will only promote a rookie when they are ready to play him

So if they deem Evans is ready (which I'm inclined to) he will be promoted - simple as that

(the situation with Juice is a different set of rules and had to be done at season start)

Further to this, the rookie can only be promoted when there is a Long Term Injury. This is the first opportunity for the year (apart from the Newton scenario) where the Club has had the opportunity to make a promotion. I think Evans is more than ready given his form at Casey, but as you said, they will only promote him when they think he is ready.

[daisycutter 29,613]

Further to this, the rookie can only be promoted when there is a Long Term Injury. This is the first opportunity for the year (apart from the Newton scenario) where the Club has had the opportunity to make a promotion. I think Evans is more than ready given his form at Casey, but as you said, they will only promote him when they think he is ready.

I would be quite happy to see Evans get a game.

[daisycutter 29,613]

I would be quite happy to see Evans get a game.

or for that matter Nicholson

[Lost Highway 31]

or for that matter Nicholson

Agree about both of those - some new blood would help to overcome the bleakness of this week.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Further to this, the rookie can only be promoted when there is a Long Term Injury. This is the first opportunity for the year (apart from the Newton scenario) where the Club has had the opportunity to make a promotion. I think Evans is more than ready given his form at Casey, but as you said, they will only promote him when they think he is ready.

With Jamar out for seemingly @ least 4 weeks, or more, IMO the first Rookie elevation should be Campbell, they may elevate 2 @ the same time tho.

I'd love to see Evans, or Nicholson, promoted, as I've watched both and they seem impressive.

PS: I like the speed I've seen with Nicholson, but with not knowing the No's early season, I was getting both mixed. Both good.

Edited May 11, 2011 by dee-luded

[Jordie_tackles 354]

JUICE will get a game or the FD made a really bad error with their first rookie decision, Juice is the versatile player we need atm imo, ruck and forward option if he cant get a game under these circumstances after kicking 2 bags of goals already for Casey then im stumped.

I also think that both Evans and Nicholson are deserving of a shot...only one will get a gig though should be very interesting, i think that both of these players are in better form than, Bennell, Morton and Jetta

Also Macdonald is very in fine form in my opinion, is to good for the VFL, this could be his opening... big body, mature etc experienced

[bing181 9,219]

Evans has the best form at Casey, even better than primary listed players

He's done (very) well of late which is great to see, but I think you're stretching it a bit there. Gotch listed Bennel as our best last week, Bate the week before, and if you go back earlier, Evans gets a good wrap but not really anything more.

Think for changes this week, we'll go for the obvious (e.g. Martin) and/or experience (e.g. Joel Mac). Still a bit of water to go under the bridge re Rivers, Martin and Trengove yet, fingers crossed. I would have thought Bennel and Jetta would be closer than Evans or Nicholson.

[Guest bonjohn]

We've lost 3 more top-22 ers to add to the 3 we alread had out (Grimes, Trengove, Jamar, Scully, McKenzie, Rivers)

So 6 blokes are getting a game this week that wouldn't have been. This could motivate the whole of this group and force some talent to bloom. They will be put in more important roles than they otherwise would have and someone could be unearthed. At the very least it is a development period for fringe players that will need to step in over the upcoming years at various stages. Dean Bailey gets the chance to try a few things and a few blokes. This is my attempt at finding the positive.

Bate

Warnock

Wonaeamirri

Tapscott

Gysberts

Bail

Maric

Bennell

Morton

Martin

Blease

Cook

Howe

Strauss

Jetta

Newton

MacDonald plus all the other brand new guys we don't really know yet

This group has room for the best 6 to go to AFL level for the upcoming month or so while the side tries to hang in the 8 until players return.

Who are your 6 players to replace our 6 injured?

For mine:

Grimes - Morton

Trengove - Gysberts

Jamar - Martin

Scully - um... Tapscott

McKenzie - Bail

Rivers - MacDonald

then you've got Bennell, Ozzie and Maric

this is a good positive post,i am particularly looking to morton ,he is not my kind of footballer,but then again football is played differently these days.

we have a shocking record at etihad so i am looking forward to morton using his extraordinary ball use in the result of loose ball gets.i would like to see the onus put on him to see if he can indeed be our link man,i would like to see him stay goal side of his opponent and kick some goals.think embley,goddard when in this role