THE COACH

[plg31ni 2]

I may as well start it...time for the Melbourne Footy Club to show some balls for the first time in a while and get rid of this bloke. Zero improvement in the skill level over four seasons, and the lack of a game plan is concerning to say the least.

You have said it... Don't ever be hesitant in saying whatever you like on here. Everybody else does. Oh , by the way, I totally agree with you.. Now it needs to happen or we are in the wilderness for another 4 plus decades...

[plg31ni 2]

no need to discuss baileys contract - sack is all we need

3 years to create a hard n tough culture n hasnt

Yay !! All my true supporters are coming out now !!! I trust I will still get the usual Members giving me crap !! Water off a Duck's Back.. My dear old Mum used to say "The proof of the pudding is in eating" and "If you don't have confidence, you'll always find a way not to win."

We do not have confidence and Nobody to instill it in us... We do have the list bar a couple only...

Edited April 29, 2011 by plg31ni

[Axis of Bob 11,787]

Who said that I don't believe in social media? How old do you think I am?

I am just saying that the facebook group will not be taken seriously by anyone of any influence, because they understand the emotional nature of football and obviously know a lot more about what it happening at the club than 75 torch burners feeling tough on facebook. That group wouldn't even cross their mind.

I think social media is a great way to do a number of things, but petitions are not it. It's a great way of sharing information (such as in Egypt, or with information services, memberships and marketing) but it's certainly not something that is the basis for decisions like this.

I could set up a group claiming that a creatively shaped turd was the second coming of Jesus that would get more people to join, and probably mean as much.

[Kento80 83]

People, time for calm. All the blame can't be heaped onto Bailey and I just realised why. The Brendon Fevola Effect (BFE) has already crept it's way from the reserves into our team. It seems that BFE is a contagious disease and as soon as any players had interaction with him, the infection spread like wildfire. We are all doomed.

[H_T 3,043]

Melb needed to get everything right in order to win a flag when it embarked on its rebuild in 2008. The 2008 draft is looking like a nightmare considering we went into the draft in a better position than any other club and last year we had the opportunity to draft Darling at pick 12. Cook may end up a nice player, but we took a project player when Darling is a plug and play gun who will only get better. I kept reading on here that he's not tall enough, that he's only 191cms and my response was that if he's good enough he's tall enough. Guess what ?

He's good enough.

Right again.

The club needs to start making the right moves.

Agree.

[rusty_corner 0]

Just thought i would mention as well:

A petition has been started:

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/sack-dean-bailey.html

Edited April 29, 2011 by rusty_corner

[Weedster 174]

People, time for calm. All the blame can't be heaped onto Bailey and I just realised why. The Brendon Fevola Effect (BFE) has already crept it's way from the reserves into our team. It seems that BFE is a contagious disease and as soon as any players had interaction with him, the infection spread like wildfire. We are all doomed.

What crap

[Hannabal 4]

Our terrible gameplan was first evident in the Essendon NAB Cup match. We were completely disorganised at the kick ins and had no idea where to run or how to defend when we didn't have the ball. Nothing has changed and I firmly and squarely blame Bailey. Let's cut to the chase. He has a pox gameplan and has been completely caught off-guard over summer. Alistair Clarkson realized after round 6 last year that the game had changed and they'd been caught unawares. They changed their gameplan from that moment on. I knew that we'd been caught unaware a month ago and haven't seen one change in our gameplan. I've been patient, but it's fair to say that in his FOURTH year I don't think I'm going early when I say he's sh#t.

Read this article by Gerard Healy dated 25 February.

It's titled "Pressing issues for Bailey". Hmm, nice play on words there.

Here tis:

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/melbourne-demons-must-overhaul-their-defensive-structure-ahead-of-2011-afl-premiership-season/story-e6frf3e3-1226012075391

Low and behold two months later and NOTHING has changed.

The guy is a joke.

[plg31ni 2]

I've defended Bailey in these arguments, but I have to admit, I'm starting to think change is needed. We are young, we have talent, we were never going to be a great side this year. But this continual poor starts, with lack of structure and very ordinary skills during games...even the suns have more structure than we do.

If you are still defending Bailey even in the slightest you will soon be in the minority and one of our 20,000 members we may be lucky enough to retain next year if he is anywhere near the Club... How the hell did we hire him.. Loved to have been a fly on the wall at the interviews.. All I was hearing from my so called "friends" whom all are members of other AFL clubs, was, Dean Who ??? Bailey where is he from ?? What AFL club did h we play for ??? Was embarrassing then and it's more so now... !!! If he doesn't go, Members will.... in droves !! Come back and tell me I was wrong ... If he stays... I will be happy to apologize... Don't need any more of this humiliation from all around me when The Dees put in performances like last night... and, sadly. they are too frequent !!! Please Sack Bailey very, very soon. Choose wisely next time... We seem to buy the cheapest Coaches... !!! WE Have to spend !!! No more Home Brand material...

[Deetective Sgt. Taggert 389]

Listening to him talk just before the start of the third quarter did it for me...I thought he sounded weak and unconvincing without the slightest degree of passion

Edited April 29, 2011 by Ascobar

[Kento80 83]

What crap

FFS mate, lighten up would you. What is wrong with a bit of light sarcastic humour amid all of the doom and gloom. Jesus!

[Real Demon 232]

Our terrible gameplan was first evident in the Essendon NAB Cup match. We were completely disorganised at the kick ins and had no idea where to run or how to defend when we didn't have the ball. Nothing has changed and I firmly and squarely blame Bailey. Let's cut to the chase. He has a pox gameplan and has been completely caught off-guard over summer. Alistair Clarkson realized after round 6 last year that the game had changed and they'd been caught unawares. They changed their gameplan from that moment on. I knew that we'd been caught unaware a month ago and haven't seen one change in our gameplan. I've been patient, but it's fair to say that in his FOURTH year I don't think I'm going early when I say he's sh#t.

Read this article by Gerard Healy dated 25 February.

It's titled "Pressing issues for Bailey". Hmm, nice play on words there.

Here tis:

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/melbourne-demons-must-overhaul-their-defensive-structure-ahead-of-2011-afl-premiership-season/story-e6frf3e3-1226012075391

Low and behold two months later and NOTHING has changed.

The guy is a joke.

Wise words from Healy........he saw it coming!

If Bailey thinks this style of game is going to break presses on a regular basis, he is delusional.

4 years to get it right..............it doesn't work!

[Roost It 1,434]

GONE

[Daemn 2]

Needs to do a blighty and walk out or make them run laps after the game. Make them hitch hike home...

Quote of year for mine...I'd suggest Greyhound Bus with a continual loop of first quarter playing on VHS. Bailey can drive which would give him plenty of thinking time around where / or in who's office / loungeroom will Schwaby and Jimma deliver the inevitable news.

[Daemn 2]

Listening to him talk just before the start of the third quarter did it for me...I thought he sounded weak and unconvincing without the slightest degree of passion

Spot on...could you imagine the response from Malthouse or Clarkson...Mick would be bristling ready to jam the reporter's head through a wall and Clarkson would be eye-balling the reporter ready to midget toss him...no edge Bailey...unfortunate, but a fact.

P.S. Called his inability to coach 4 years ago to be hailed down by some of the sheep on here...glad to feel some justification. Does anyone know where Paul Gardner lives so I can post him a thank-you card...love being sold a lemon.

Edited April 29, 2011 by Daemn

[Red and Blue Flame 186]

wondering why there's only 74 members of the petition on facebook when supposedly everyone here wants bailey gone now or at seasons end?

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_221875624493237

[beelzebub 23,347]

Our terrible gameplan was first evident in the Essendon NAB Cup match. We were completely disorganised at the kick ins and had no idea where to run or how to defend when we didn't have the ball. Nothing has changed and I firmly and squarely blame Bailey. Let's cut to the chase. He has a pox gameplan and has been completely caught off-guard over summer. Alistair Clarkson realized after round 6 last year that the game had changed and they'd been caught unawares. They changed their gameplan from that moment on. I knew that we'd been caught unaware a month ago and haven't seen one change in our gameplan. I've been patient, but it's fair to say that in his FOURTH year I don't think I'm going early when I say he's sh#t.

Read this article by Gerard Healy dated 25 February.

It's titled "Pressing issues for Bailey". Hmm, nice play on words there.

Here tis:

http://www.foxsports...3-1226012075391

Low and behold two months later and NOTHING has changed.

The guy is a joke.

concur 100%

but wait...its all ok..., coz "We're going back to Basics !!"

Bailey...it wasnt really the lack of skills that burnt us last night it was the total lack of passion and fire form the team ( as a whole ) Only a handful played with any purpose or desire...everyone else just bloody stood and waited...and watched...in most cases watched some Weagle swoop and kick on. Deplorable !!

I was prepared to give Bailey some kudos for guiding us through the mire and maze that was draft picks etc...but itsimply turns out hes got no f*&^%ng clue about winning anyways..He's justlucked his way through it all and is now sorely found out as being wanting for any real notion of a game.

Mentoring's one thing... Coaching to win is another !!

[Mono 455]

wondering why there's only 74 members of the petition on facebook when supposedly everyone here wants bailey gone now or at seasons end?

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_221875624493237

Probably 2 reasons:

1. Not everyone uses Facebook, especially older folks - I can barely be bothered.

2. Your real name is revealed, no an alias

[Axis of Bob 11,787]

So there were 75 members of the FB groups when the article was written but, 3 hours later, only 74.

Vive la revolution!!

Edited April 29, 2011 by Axis of Bob

[Dalrot 85]

wondering why there's only 74 members of the petition on facebook when supposedly everyone here wants bailey gone now or at seasons end?

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_221875624493237

Reading the posts there, they sure sound like an intelligent bunch. Who wouldn't want to join them!?

[beelzebub 23,347]

Whats Laidley up to next year I wonder ?

[old dee 23,787]

Yes, I'm old too, and no doubt just don't understand modern tactics. I don't. But we didn't used to lose this way.

1. In the old days, the runner would be sent out from the coach telling the player to man up, get on your man! Bailey does not appear to send the runner with this message, which suggests he is not concerned about Melbourne players not manning up when the opposition have the ball. Seems likely enough that not manning up is what Bailey requires from them. So, when West Coast took a mark and went back for the kick, Melbourne players took up positions 15 metres away from "their man", and with arms out guarded empty space, while the West Coast player with the ball took his choice of his free team-mates, and kicked it to one of them. This was repeated until West Coast either stuffed up or had a shot on goal. Week after week, we leave free players the length of the field, giving the new "MFC free kick" all the way to goal. Even on TV you can see plainly where the opposition kicks are inevitably going to go.

If Bailey supposes this tactic will result in us being free to run when we get the ball, great idea, only that it clearly doesn't work. Not only do we leave the opposition free use of the ball, but also they don't seem to have any difficulty in closing in on us when we do get a possession. From the How-to-play-football manual, when the opposition have possession, and when they are slaughtering us, MAN UP!!!!

2. Small wonder we look unfit and slow, when we spend most of the game running like crazy after the players we left that regulation 15 metres in the clear... With our poor starts, we are half-exhausted from the handicap chasing we do all game before we begin to try out our own game-plan. It worked against Sydney last year only because we jumped them before we had done our repeated 30 metre sprints desperately trying to catch-up the start we give away at every opposition possession...

3. Small wonder we look dispirited.

4. I wonder if anyone has asked the elite juniors that we've recruited, the cream of the young performers of the land, what they know that made them such stars in the junior competitions we selected them from. Jack Watts for example was known to be instinctive, fast and a dead shot at goal. How'd he come to the idea that he should now abandon everything that got him chosen in the draft, and go nervous and goal-shy? Nobody looks more confused about "manning up" that poor hard-working Jack. Why is our talent-laden forward line playing mainly in the backline? How about the coach telling them to trust their skills, hold your ground, it'll come? Be there for when we do get a clear kick forward, that's your big moment... (And be there also so you can keep it in there!)

These young players had performed with greater distinction, prior to coming to MFC, than Bailey ever did. With out list management policy over the past three years, they have been treated as, and in fact are, our "talent capital". Why not let their natural skills be part of how they are instructed to play? What if Aaron actually is a small forward? I still remember Robbie being moved to the backline...

Robbie I have been complaining about our game plan and having every player in the back line for a year now.

But I just get branded as "old" mate and what would I know.

I, like you cannot see the wisdom in it.

If it is a good tactic then we obviously do not have the skill to carry it off.

Which makes me wonder why we do not play a style that suits our talent base better.

I had not thought of it but you are correct how come we seem to be able to turn great junior footballs into also rands

Who seem lost and without confidence?

Edited April 29, 2011 by old dee

[QueenC 74]

This. Club. Gives. Me. Nothing.

But at least they've been consistant at that !!!

[QueenC 74]

For those saying Essendon & West Coast have gone past us you're forgetting Richmond

Absolutely, not sure about their overall talent but they have a few outstanding kids and a hell of a lot of heart.

[QueenC 74]

As to the clubs style

Well it is time to change as the existing style has produced zero premierships since 1964.

But isn't that change meant to have been happening.....