LAST TIME THEY MET

[Demonland 70,589]

MELBOURNE

Backs Colin Garland Jared Rivers Clint Bartram

Half backs Cameron Bruce James Frawley Joel Macdonald

Centreline Rohan Bail James McDonald Brad Green

Half forwards Lynden Dunn Jack Watts Tom Scully

Forwards Jamie Bennell Paul Johnson Austin Wonaeamirri

Followers Mark Jamar Colin Sylvia Aaron Davey

Interchange Jordie McKenzie, Cale Morton, Nathan Jones, Liam Jurrah

Emergencies Jack Trengove, Addam Maric, Matthew Warnock

BRISBANE

Backs Xavier Clarke Daniel Merrett Ashley McGrath

Half backs Luke Power Brent Staker Joel Patfull

Centreline Jack Redden Daniel Rich Tom Rockliff

Half forwards James Polkinghorne Jonathan Brown Albert Proud

Forwards Jared Brennan Brendan Fevola Todd Banfield

Followers Mitchell Clark Simon Black Michael Rischitelli

Interchange Pearce Hanley Ryan Harwood Matthew Leuenberger Cheynee Stiller

Emergencies Aaron Cornelius James Hawksley Justin Sherman

[Jack son 5 162]

An easy win for us, surely. Expext Melbourne to come and play this weekend (HARD).

If we loose, well......

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

I am so nervous about this, I don't even want to go

If we lose there will be a riot, and we will revert immediately back to laughing stock of the league

Bailey must be shirting himself

[John Crow Batty 8,832]

I just hope last week was the wake up call we need. If we lose the embarrassment will be unbearable.

Edited April 7, 2011 by america de cali

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

I just hope last week was the wake up call we need. If we lose the embarrassment will be unbearable.

you can pretty much burn any perceived progress we have made since 2007 if we lose

[stranga 328]

Given how bad our midfield is, and how easily theirs brushed us aside in the practice game, im extremely concerned. Lets just hope their lack of forward options makes it hard for them to convert.

[DemonWA 3,889]

if we loose i think there will be heat on bailey & his future...big time heat. Same goes for the Gold Coast game.

Lions without JB, Staker & Drummond (not to mention Rischetelli & Brennan) are a far inferior proposition than with them. Basically it leaves them with relitivley inexperienced youngsters and a handfull of longer term players. If we loose it shows that Voss has got his less fancied talent to preform better than bailey who has an abundacne of top picks.

Gold Coast are all young, with a handfull of stars. If we loose or the watts/trengoves/bennels are shown up by their younger players then it would show that our players havent developed in the last few years - which would be worrying too

[Allen Jakovich 516]

Given how bad our midfield is, and how easily theirs brushed us aside in the practice game, im extremely concerned. Lets just hope their lack of forward options makes it hard for them to convert.

We played mostly draftees in the practice match. I wouldn't be too worried about that result.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

We played mostly draftees in the practice match. I wouldn't be too worried about that result.

but he's referring to our midfield specifically, I don't think our midfield lineup is any different this Sunday to what it was in the praccy, when it was absolutely creamed. Rich in particular just did as he wanted. Huge week for Nathan Jones

[stranga 328]

but he's referring to our midfield specifically, I don't think our midfield lineup is any different this Sunday to what it was in the praccy, when it was absolutely creamed. Rich in particular just did as he wanted. Huge week for Nathan Jones

Correct, form memory the missing players were either forwards or defenders. The mids were absolutely slaughtered at the clearances in particular and there was no tackling pressure, not dissimilar to last weekend.

[Red Sox 2]

We played mostly draftees in the practice match. I wouldn't be too worried about that result.

Hopefully not but the Hawthorn match was eerily similar to the Hawthorn practice match a few weeks earlier.

We have to win this game.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

I was going to make a list of players who really need to stand up, atone for last week and prove themselves but I realised it is pretty much everyone except Tapscott, maybe Frawley and Trengove

[John Crow Batty 8,832]

I was going to make a list of players who really need to stand up, atone for last week and prove themselves but I realised it is pretty much everyone except Tapscott, maybe Frawley and Trengove

A 4 letter word would suffice. That is the TEAM.

[Samsara 65]

One psychological term that comes to mind with this club (sometimes; against Hawthorn Sunday was perfect example) is the bystander effect.

The bystander effect or Genovese syndrome is a social psychological phenomenon that refers to cases where individuals do not offer any means of help in an emergency situation to the victim when other people are present. The probability of help has in the past been thought to be inversely related to the number of bystanders; in other words, the greater the number of bystanders, the less likely it is that any one of them will help.

Obviously has a different application with a team of football players, but there were far too many players that seemed to have the attitude that "someone else will stand up" on the weekend. We a need a team where all players will themselves into the game when things are going wrong (either as a team or individually), not a team of players who just want to play hot potato with any form of responsibility.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

there were far too many players that seemed to have the attitude that "someone else will stand up" on the weekend. We a need a team where all players will themselves into the game when things are going wrong (either as a team or individually), not a team of players who just want to play hot potato with any form of responsibility.

and the thing that will wake you up in the middle of the night tonight is the realisation is that this 'syndrome' has been a hallmark of MFC sides since god-knows-when. It's pure weakness.

[bing181 9,149]

if we loose i think there will be heat on bailey & his future...

Only in places like this. Thankfully, the club and FD look at the Big Picture.

[Range Rover 1,935]

I was going to make a list of players who really need to stand up, atone for last week and prove themselves but I realised it is pretty much everyone except Tapscott, maybe Frawley and Trengove

I'll name them:

Jones Bennell Jurrah Davey Dunn Jetta Maric Watts

All under the microscope for mine.

[old dee 23,558]

One psychological term that comes to mind with this club (sometimes; against Hawthorn Sunday was perfect example) is the bystander effect.

The bystander effect or Genovese syndrome is a social psychological phenomenon that refers to cases where individuals do not offer any means of help in an emergency situation to the victim when other people are present. The probability of help has in the past been thought to be inversely related to the number of bystanders; in other words, the greater the number of bystanders, the less likely it is that any one of them will help.

Obviously has a different application with a team of football players, but there were far too many players that seemed to have the attitude that "someone else will stand up" on the weekend. We a need a team where all players will themselves into the game when things are going wrong (either as a team or individually), not a team of players who just want to play hot potato with any form of responsibility.

I have thought long and hard since Sunday.

It may just be that Hawthorn are much too good for us in most positions

and their poor conversion kept us in it up to half time.

Perhaps they still are a 10+ goal better side than Melbourne.

Having said that The lions are not as good as us but they have troubled us in the last three games.

We only got home by a couple of goals in Brisbane 2010

We only won in China on the siren after being behind all day.

They Beat us in the practise match a few weeks ago.

Anyone every considered we may not be as good as we think.

Perhaps we are still a bottom four side!

Sunday will tell.

Edited April 7, 2011 by old dee

[old dee 23,558]

if we loose i think there will be heat on bailey & his future...big time heat. Same goes for the Gold Coast game.

Lions without JB, Staker & Drummond (not to mention Rischetelli & Brennan) are a far inferior proposition than with them. Basically it leaves them with relitivley inexperienced youngsters and a handfull of longer term players. If we loose it shows that Voss has got his less fancied talent to preform better than bailey who has an abundacne of top picks.

Gold Coast are all young, with a handfull of stars. If we loose or the watts/trengoves/bennels are shown up by their younger players then it would show that our players havent developed in the last few years - which would be worrying too

DA if we lose the next two games can I come and live with you in WA?

Because it will be unbearble over here.

I will have to don a disguise to avoid all the laughter from 16 other teams

Either that or buy a hawks scarf!

Edited April 7, 2011 by old dee

[John Crow Batty 8,832]

I have thought long and hard since Sunday.

It may just be that Hawthorn are much too good for us in most positions

and their poor conversion kept us in it up to half time.

Perhaps they still are a 10+ goal better side than Melbourne.

Having said that The lions are not as good as us but they have troubled us in the last three games.

We only got home by a couple of goals in Brisbane 2010

We only won in China on the siren after being behind all day.

They Beat us in the practise match a few weeks ago.

Anyone every considered we may not be as good as we think.

Perhaps we are still a bottom four side!

Sunday will tell.

Honourable Confucius says;

Bottom 4 side?

Chinese unlucky number 4 for us?

Will 4 Horsemen of Apocalypse appear if lose to GC in round 4?

Dis one unlucky 4th year for Dean?

Edited April 7, 2011 by america de cali

[old dee 23,558]

Honourable Confucius says;

Bottom 4 side?

Chinese unlucky number 4 for us?

Will 4 Horsemen of Apocalypse appear if lose to GC in round 4?

Dis one unlucky 4th year for Dean?

ah brother glad to see all dees not barbarians

[John Crow Batty 8,832]

ah brother glad to see all dees not barbarians

Confucius also says;

Esteemed Melbourne coach has not more hair left to lose.

[P-man 13,366]

Violent acts towards household items might be in order if we bugger this one up.

Needs to be not just a win but a comfortable win.

[DemonWA 3,889]

DA if we lose the next two games can I come and live with you in WA?

Because it will be unbearble over here.

I will have to don a disguise to avoid all the laughter from 16 other teams

Either that or buy a hawks scarf!

You'd be welcome mate, although the Eagles have won 2/2 and all of a sudden you'd think they were a chance at the flag if you listened to their fans (who have recently come back out of the woodwork!)

[DemonWA 3,889]

Only in places like this. Thankfully, the club and FD look at the Big Picture.

are you serious? The club, especially Bailey have come out and said that this year they dont want to use the development excuse this year. I realise as much as the next avid fan that we're not a collingwood/hawthorn yet but after playing the kids for the last few seasons i think even the club would start to question where we might be headed if we lost to brisbane & gold coast in 2 weeks.

If we loose against the lions and gold coast then were saying one of the following things;

- Our "young talet" isnt as good as their young talent (which IMO is not the case)

- Our players arent as hungry as their players (Jury still out)

- Our tactics arent as good as their tactics (Jury still out)