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Pick 73 I believe WJ.

By the way am I the only one that thinks we should through throw everything we can at Mitch Clark at this stage in time?

Pick 12, 32 and a player?

Don't think they'd bite at that unless the player was better than solid, but I would certainly ask what they wanted.

Perfect for the Demons.

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Pick 73 I believe WJ.

By the way am I the only one that thinks we should through throw everything we can at Mitch Clark at this stage in time?

Pick 12, 32 and a player?

Ridiculously back-ended contract..?

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Ridiculously back-ended contract..?

and...?

Sorry are you implying that financially it is impossible because of our Cap or that we can't afford it?

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No, but is it wise?

Would the Lions be willing to pay some of his contract out?

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No, but is it wise?

Would the Lions be willing to pay some of his contract out?

They may not have a choice, depends how badly he wants to go...

If he really wants out and Perth isn't a possiblity then just throw what you can at him.

The guy's a freak...

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If Brisbane let go of Clark on the back of losing Henderson, Voss should be shot!

I agree.

And Cornelius looks ok, but don't get ahead of yourselves.


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THE TRADING CHRONICLES by The Oracle

THE WAITING GAME

There was a time when the United States had a President who went by the name of "Tricky Dicky". These days, his namesake is involved in player management and looms large on the trade scene. Yesterday, Ricky Nixon who manages Andrejs Everitt, David Hale and Richard Tambling was quoted as saying that all three would have new homes by today.

Well, he's got one right so far.

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Pick 73 I believe WJ.

By the way am I the only one that thinks we should through throw everything we can at Mitch Clark at this stage in time?

Pick 12, 32 and a player?

I think you might be, that's a horrible suggestion.

Clark is barely worth a first round pick; let alone a first, second and a player on top of that. What you're proposing is charity.

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THE TRADING CHRONICLES 2010 by The Oracle

THE LONG ARM

The second day of the exchange period was overshadowed by legal matters. As investigations continued into allegations of assault made against two unnamed Collingwood players in one part of the country, Queensland police finally closed the case on Brendon Fevola who will not be charged over allegedly exposing himself to a woman at a local football club function last month.

Despite the fact that there was insufficient evidence to sustain any charges against him, Fevola isn't entirely in the clear yet. He remains under an indefinite suspension announced by the Lions when the incident surfaced and the AFL is reported to have said yesterday that it intended taking up the matter with the police. The AFL's position seems to be at odds with the stance of non interference it took with the two Magpies being investigated for what appear to be even more serious offences.

One wonders if this has anything to do with the fact that Fevola's back ended contract appears to be crippling the Lions' ability to fit their players under the salary cap limit and his club would be much better placed to keep its players happy if it managed to rid itself of the burden of Fevola's contract? The Brisbane plight doesn't look good when contrasted with the new franchise down the road which is spending money on players from what looks like a bottomless pit of cash.

And just as two Magpies might well be contemplating life a jailbirds if the allegations made against them are proven, it appears that Collingwood is set to rejuvenate the AFL career today of former Tiger Andrew Krakouer, spent 16 months in jail for a serious assault before winning the Sandover Medal and kicking the goal of the day that won the flag for his club Swan Districts in this year's WAFL grand final.

All of this will happen courtesy of who else but the new Gold Coast franchise? The Suns must use their right to claim uncontracted players including those who were previously in the AFL system or had nominated for the draft by 2.00pm today and are expected to name Krakouer and on trade him to the reigning premiers. The contemplated trade will also see overage Murray Bushrangers ruckman John Ceglar become a Magpie.

Another name mentioned as a possible Gold Coast uncontracted player signing before today's 2.00 pm deadline is former number one draft pick Josh Fraser who has been out of favour with the Pies but could fill a role mentoring the Suns' young ruck stars of the future.

The day did finally see some trades come to fruition with two of Tricky Dicky's trifecta of mooted trades - Pat Veszpremi and Richard Tambling - finding new homes. The third one, David Hale is still looking for a new home with Melbourne (the club) as his likely destination.

And on that subject, following the Brisbane Lions' extensive review of its operations another number one draft pick Travis Johnstone who has spent the better part of the last two seasons looking the part, is about to become officially homeless. The Lions apparently won't be offering him a new contract.

Completed Trades on Day Two:

■ Western Bulldogs receive Patrick Veszpremi and fourth-round draft selection (No.73)

Sydney Swans receive Andrejs Everitt

■ Adelaide receives Richard Tambling

Richmond receives Adelaide’s end-of-first round compensation for losing Nathan Bock and a third-round draft selection (No.50) Adelaide

NAB AFL Draft selection numbers are indicative only. Gold Coast draft compensation selections do not yet have a number assigned to them. The above list shows only where selections may be placed if no compensation selections are activated.

No trades are official until paperwork has been accepted by the AFL and formally recognised after 2.00pm on Monday, October 11.

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THE TRADING CHRONICLES 2010 by The Oracle

THE LONG ARM

The day did finally see some trades come to fruition with two of Tricky Dicky's trifecta of mooted trades - Pat Veszpremi and Richard Tambling - finding new homes. The third one, David Hale is still looking for a new home with Melbourne (the club) as his likely destination.

When are we going to hear the end of this David Hale saga?

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Fremantle has traded pick 55 to Gold Coast for pick 61 and Suns pre-listed player Peter Faulks (key defender, ex Williamstown and Casey Scorpions). Faulks was a teammate of Alex Silvagni at the Scorps before that player was drafted by the Dockers.

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Fremantle has traded pick 55 to Gold Coast for pick 61 and Suns pre-listed player Peter Faulks (key defender, ex Williamstown and Casey Scorpions). Faulks was a teammate of Alex Silvagni at the Scorps before that player was drafted by the Dockers.

Interesting move by Freo. Does Freo have anyone (recruiting wise) over there in WA KC, who has prior links to Casey / VFL that you know of ?

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Interesting move by Freo. Does Freo have anyone (recruiting wise) over there in WA KC, who has prior links to Casey / VFL that you know of ?

Their "general manager of player management" (???) is Brad Lloyd, ex-VFA (Williamstown, wasn't it?) I think he's related to Matthew Lloyd in some way.

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Their "general manager of player management" (???) is Brad Lloyd, ex-VFA (Williamstown, wasn't it?) I think he's related to Matthew Lloyd in some way.

Brother.

Silvagni and Faulks were both important key defenders at Casey in 2009. No doubt, Alex pushed Faulks' cause with the Dockers.


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Brother.

Silvagni and Faulks were both important key defenders at Casey in 2009. No doubt, Alex pushed Faulks' cause with the Dockers.

Peter German is of course the other connection between Willi & Scorps. There's also enough interaction between Willi & Werribee for Lloyd to have known plenty about Barlow.

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THE TRADING CHRONICLES 2010 by The Oracle

SHANGHAID

Last night I had the strangest dream. I was watching a television programme and Hutchy appeared on the screen to make a dramatic announcement.

"AFL CEO Andrew Demetriou has just issued a brief press release informing that as a result of sexual misconduct allegations levelled against two unnamed Collingwood players during grand final celebrations the AFL Commission has had no choice but to strip the Magpies of the 2010 Premiership.

"The Commission in its wisdom has decided that, in the light of the fact that the serious allegations against a former St. Kilda-listed player had yet to be determined through the normal course in the legal system, it would be inappropriate to award the premiership cup to that club.

"Accordingly, there was is other alternative but to award the status of AFL Grand Final to Sunday week's Kaspersky Cup Shanghai Showdown between Melbourne and the Brisbane Lions. The winning team will also be presented with the 2010 AFL Premiership Cup."

The picture on the screen faded and I could see the face of a bewildered looking Nick Maxwell.

"It's probably going to take this for the AFL to change the rules. It's an absolute joke."

Suddenly, I am transported into the foyer of the Howard Johnson Caida Plaza Shanghai where I am nervously pacing up and down the lobby. The game is less than an hour away and I notice the presence of some very tall men.

AFL footballers!

There's Paul Johnson wandering around telling all and sundry that the hotel was named after his father, Howard. Jake Spencer towers over him and there's this other young chap who's taller than both of them.

In wanders a new bloke looking for his luggage. He's tall all right but when bends down to lift his suitcase, he's really struggling. Suddenly, I realise that the newcomer is David Hale and then I realise

the Demons have yet to close the deal with the Kangaroos for the big man. How on earth can we possibly win the grand final without a second ruckman cum forward pocket?

Then I wake up bathed in sweat. It's been yet another nightmare.

Trade week does that to you. Trade week combined with a dodgy beef vindaloo from the local Indian Restaurant, the Delhi Belhi, and an evening viewing the goings on at the Commonwealth Games per medium of a television programme hosted by Huddo and someone who used to be a swimmer.

So back to the trades and yesterday was another big day for the Gold Coast Suns who snared another two AFL names in Magpie Josh Fraser and Brisbane Lion Jared Brennan. The former came at no cost to the new franchise while the latter was part of the club's first ever exchange. As predicted Andrew Krakouer and John Ceglar became Magpies after being contracted as previous listed and nominated players respectively.

The only other done deal took place when the Suns picked up former Sydney Swan, Casey Scorpions and Williamstown player Peter Faulks and traded him to the Dockers.

As for Hale, he is still in limbo with many of the other trade wannabes but is inching closer to the Hawks than the Demons. Apparently, Hawthorn's recruiting manager has never seen him bend down to lift a suitcase.

Meanwhile, the Lions have lifted the club imposed ban on Brendan Fevola who has been rummaging around at home to find his passport so he can join the club on its trip to China.

I remember my dream more vividly now. Was that Fev staggering out of the bar of the Shanghai Howard Johnson Hotel, slab of Fosters under his armpit, swearing loudly in mandarin and tripping over some other big bloke's luggage?

Completed Player Movements and Dealings on Day Three:

■ Gold Coast receives Gary Ablett (Geelong), Nathan Bock (Adelaide), Campbell Brown (Hawthorn), Jarrod Harbrow (Western Bulldogs), Nathan Krakouer (Port Adelaide), Michael Rischitelli (Brisbane) as uncontracted player selections

■ Western Bulldogs receive Mitch Wallis in return for its first-round draft selection (No. 20) under the father son rule

■ Western Bulldogs receive Tom Liberatore in return for its second-round draft selection (No. 40) under the father son rule

■ West Coast Eagles receive Jacob Brennan in return for its final-round draft selection (TBA) under the father son rule

■ Western Bulldogs receive Patrick Veszpremi and fourth-round draft selection (No. 73)

Sydney Swans receive Andrejs Everitt

■ Adelaide receives Richard Tambling

Richmond receives Adelaide's end-of-first round compensation for losing Nathan Bock and a third-round draft selection (No. 50)

■ Gold Coast receives Josh Fraser (Collingwood) as an uncontracted player selection

■ Fremantle receives Peter Faulks (uncontracted Gold Coast draftee from Williamstown VFL) and fourth-round draft selection (No. 61)

Gold Coast receives third-round draft selection (No. 65)

■ Collingwood receives Andrew Krakouer (uncontracted Gold Coast draftee from Swan Districts WAFL), Jonathon Ceglar (uncontracted Gold Coast draftee from Murray Bushrangers WAFL), third-round draft selection (No. 55), fifth-round draft selection (No. 78) and sixth-round draft selection (No. 95)

Gold Coast receives first-round selection (No. 25)

■ Gold Coast receives Jared Brennan and first-round selection (No.10)

Brisbane Lions receive first-round selection (No. 5)

NAB AFL Draft selection numbers are indicative only. Gold Coast draft compensation selections do not yet have a number assigned to them. The above list shows only where selections may be placed if no compensation selections are activated.

No trades are official until paperwork has been accepted by the AFL and formally recognised after 2.00pm on Monday, October 11.

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The AFL has created a moster with the Gold Coast concessions and we should expect the same with GWS next year.

Which players do we have coming out of contract at the end of 2011?

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THE TRADING CHRONICLES 2010 by The Oracle

VESUVIUS UNLEASHED?

Trade week fatigue syndrome hit the football world with a vengeance yesterday.

The weekend was looming, a few more player exchanges were announced and, as we all started to relax and ponder on what had transpired in the past few days, the realisation set in that the trade week circus was becoming a snorefest that could only be described in the four word title to the Shakespeare play, "Much Ado About Nothing".

The most exciting story of the day was that Hawthorn emerged as the champion club for the follicly challenged when it came from behind to snatch David Hale from the jaws of the Demons. Hale and Brent Guerra will now be able to compare their respective hair transplants together while watching their idol Dougie Bollinger as he plies his trade on cricket pitches in the heat of the off season.

The beanpole North Ballarat premiership forward with two years left of a $400kpa contract at the Kangaroos was traded for the compensatory pick the Hawks received for Campbell Brown plus or minus small change, thus trumping Melbourne's offer of a second round draft selection. I missed the presser but would have loved to hear Hawthorn football manager Chris Pelchen welcome Hale to the fold where he will make an ideal ruck partner to "Wade Thkipper."

Like many of the names changing places so far this week Hale has been languishing at a level below the elite. Is there a Hawthorn person around who would put hand on heart and say that Hale will be worth the equivalent of a premiership star in Campbell Brown to their club?

Not many and certainly, very few of the Kangaroo supporters who were seen doing cartwheels down Arden Street when the deal was announced. They were joined by a good number of Demon fans who weren't particularly enamoured of the prospect of a middle aged, slowish dinosaur roaming their team's forward line. Still, the proof will be in the pudding next year when he dons the brown and gold of Hawthorn ... or Box Hill!

When you boil down the exchanges that have taken place so far it's clear that apart from the uncontracted Gold Coast players and the Bulldog father sons, it's all been state league level trading.

With all due respect to the players involved, all of the action so far has centred on the washed up and the hopeful types who have been plying their trade in the lesser competitions for the most part - Hale, Veszpremi, Everitt, Djerrkura, Krakouer, Faulks, Bewick and Ceglar. None of them are household names and it's no wonder therefore that the majority of observers were yawning by the end of the week.

For those who crave excitement at this time of the year and couldn't be bothered tuning into to the fiasco that is Commonwealth Games athletics, then Pelchen could well have elevated himself to the status of this year's trade oracle (yes, I'm happy to share this celebrated title with others) when he reportedly suggested we might yet see some trade week fireworks before the football world pulls up stumps at lunchtime on Monday.

I immediately thought of Michael Voss and his daring, dangerous and ultimately destructive escapades of last year but then I remembered that the Brisbane Lions review had well and truly zipped up his mouth and put him in a straight jacket.

Pelchen was talking about the mob from out at Visy Park when he mentioned that one AFL club was "a volcano ready to erupt". It seems that we can expect the action to centre around the large number of players at Carlton who want out and are seeking trades elsewhere.

Still, there's no need to panic because, like most of this year's done trade deals, the players involved spent a lot of their time this year running around in red Bullants jumpers in the VFL. At this stage, Pelchen's revelations are hardly explosive stuff in a football year where sex, drugs and rock and roll have all dominated the news.

Completed Player Movements and Dealings on Day Four:

Gold Coast receives Gary Ablett (Geelong), Nathan Bock (Adelaide), Campbell Brown (Hawthorn), Jarrod Harbrow (Western Bulldogs), Nathan Krakouer (Port Adelaide), Michael Rischitelli (Brisbane) as uncontracted player selections

Western Bulldogs receive Mitch Wallis in return for its first-round draft selection (No. 20) under the father son rule

Western Bulldogs receive Tom Liberatore in return for its second-round draft selection (No. 40) under the father son rule

West Coast Eagles receive Jacob Brennan in return for its final-round draft selection (TBA) under the father son rule

Western Bulldogs receive Patrick Veszpremi and fourth-round draft selection (No. 73)

Sydney Swans receive Andrejs Everitt

Adelaide receives Richard Tambling

Richmond receives Adelaide's end-of-first round compensation for losing Nathan Bock and a third-round draft selection (No. 50)

Gold Coast receives Josh Fraser (Collingwood) as an uncontracted player selection

Fremantle receives Peter Faulks (uncontracted Gold Coast draftee from Williamstown VFL) and fourth-round draft selection (No. 61)

Gold Coast receives third-round draft selection (No. 65)

Collingwood receives Andrew Krakouer (uncontracted Gold Coast draftee from Swan Districts WAFL), Jonathon Ceglar (uncontracted Gold Coast draftee from Murray Bushrangers WAFL), third-round draft selection (No. 55), fifth-round draft selection (No. 78) and sixth-round draft selection (No. 95)

Gold Coast receives first-round selection (No. 25)

Gold Coast receives Jared Brennan and first-round selection (No.10)

Brisbane Lions receive first-round selection (No. 5)

Western Bulldogs receive Nathan Djerrkura

Geelong receives a third-round draft selection (No. 57)

Hawthorn receives David Hale and third-round draft selection (No. 52)

North Melbourne receives Hawthorn's end-of-first round compensation for losing Campbell Brown and a fourth-round draft selection (No. 71)

Brisbane Lions receive Rohan Bewick (West Perth, WAFL), first-round draft selections (Nos. 5 and 25) and second-round draft selection (No. 27)

Gold Coast receives the end of first-round Gold Coast draft compensation selection Brisbane Lions received for losing Jared Brennan, first-round draft selection (No. 10) and third-round draft selection (No. 48)

North Melbourne receives Ben McKinley

West Coast Eagles receive fifth-round draft selection (No. 86)

NAB AFL Draft selection numbers are indicative only. Gold Coast draft compensation selections do not yet have a number assigned to them. The above list shows only where selections may be placed if no compensation selections are activated.

No trades are official until paperwork has been accepted by the AFL and formally recognised after 2.00pm on Monday, October 11.

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