" The Russian"

[Jurrah-Time 0]

Sport 927's Adam White has revealed Port Adelaide are looking at Mark Jamar as a possible new Ruckmen.

I wonder what they think they will propose.

Idea's?

[Demonland 65,840]

Rumour from Adam White from the ABC via Twitter: http://twitter.com/Whitey927

[hillie 41]

Sport 927's Adam White has revealed Port Adelaide are looking at Mark Jamar as a possible new Ruckmen.

I wonder what they think they will propose.

Idea's?

dependin on the SB trade, pick 8 or 9 or 10around that level for jamar and buckly

[Rogue 585]

There was a fair bit of discussion regarding the merits of pick 9 for Jamar in a recent thread. I think a pick in the first round is fair. However, if we trade out Jamar then we should look at a mature replacement or we're in a world of hurt next year.

How do people rate Jolly v Jamar? I think Jolly shades Jamar at the moment but Jamar's younger.

EDIT: Shades is probably the wrong word. Fwiw, if we traded Jamar he'd be a year older than Jolly was when we traded him for pick 15. As Roos has said, Jolly's improved a heap since then and this draft has a shallow pool of players due to the changed age eligibility.

Edited October 5, 2009 by Rogue
Clarification

[WonnaJurah 5]

Jamar + Mcnamara for burgoyne mayb

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,636]

There was a fair bit of discussion regarding the merits of pick 9 for Jamar in a recent thread. I think a pick in the first round is fair. However, if we trade out Jamar then we should look at a mature replacement or we're in a world of hurt next year.

How do people rate Jolly v Jamar? I think Jolly shades Jamar at the moment but Jamar's younger.

Shades?

C'mon Rogue. Jolly is way better than Jamar. I'd take pick 8 or 9 in a heartbeat, but there is no way Port would be that stupid.

[Demon Tragic 0]

Shades?

C'mon Rogue. Jolly is way better than Jamar. I'd take pick 8 or 9 in a heartbeat, but there is no way Port would be that stupid.

This is the same club that Nick Stevens go for free on 'principle' yeah?

[Demon trucker 1,776]

depending on the SB trade, pick 8 or 9 or 10around that level for jamar and buckley

where do i sign, that's too good too be true, Jamar was not worth pick 8,9 when he was drafted,he is no way in hell worth that now, if they would give up pick 8 or 9 jump at it, just think 1,2,8.11,18 how can we not be a premiership threat in 2 to 4 years time,ITS njot going to happen, we would have to give up arron for that to happen, port are not north though, they are the only club who sales there soul for a 2 year player, with there top 10 picks.

[Old Gregg 1]

Jamar's not a star ruckman....when will people realise....he's worth a second round pick, at most. Throwing a depth player like Buckley or McNamara in will not make that a first round pick!!! Jolly is easily the superior ruckman.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Shades?

C'mon Rogue. Jolly is way better than Jamar. I'd take pick 8 or 9 in a heartbeat, but there is no way Port would be that stupid.

Agreed.

[Binmans PA 26,290]

Jamar's not a star ruckman....when will people realise....he's worth a second round pick, at most. Throwing a depth player like Buckley or McNamara in will not make that a first round pick!!! Jolly is easily the superior ruckman.

I agree, but when you hear that teams are interested in players like Daniel Bell and Chris Johnson (last year), I find that staggering in itself and therefore, in my book, anything could happen, during this trade week.

[Demon trucker 1,776]

Sport 927's Adam White has revealed Port Adelaide are looking at Mark Jamar as a possible new Ruckmen.

I wonder what they think they will propose.

Idea's?

meeson was a top 10 pick do you think he is better then jamar,

[Old Gregg 1]

I agree, but when you hear that teams are interested in players like Daniel Bell and Chris Johnson (last year), I find that staggering in itself and therefore, in my book, anything could happen, during this trade week.

Well....we'll see what happens.

Don't get me wrong, that would be a ridiculously good trade if it went through, if we somehow drugged the Port recruiters.

Strange things happen in footy...

[Hannabal 4]

I think a pick in the first round is fair.

You've got to be joking. Jamar isn't worth a top 20 pick.

"Jolly shades Jamar, but Jamar is younger"

[Rogue 585]

I'd take pick 8 or 9 in a heartbeat, but there is no way Port would be that stupid.

If you check out the previous thread, apparently some on here aren't keen on this deal

[jacey 333]

There was a fair bit of discussion regarding the merits of pick 9 for Jamar in a recent thread. I think a pick in the first round is fair. However, if we trade out Jamar then we should look at a mature replacement or we're in a world of hurt next year.

As for Jamar's value, it's a lot higher then people think. 2 weeks ago people were actually talking about being happy with 2nd round picks or lower for Brock Mclean.

Seaby was what. Traded for Pick 22.

Edited October 5, 2009 by jacey

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,636]

If you check out the previous thread, apparently some on here aren't keen on this deal

I've read it and laughed at those who weren't keen on it. That said, I've read regular posters here who claim that Ward was a good kick . It'd be fair to say that I don't pay much attention to what the majority think.

[H_T 2,941]

What is Jamar's market value? Port need a ruckman. If Port have 8 and 24. Rumour has it in order for Burgoyne to get to Hawks it will take more than just pick 9.. and it may also involve a 3 way deal to get it done. So it may be the pick from the 3rd club involved. Then again it may not....

[Rogue 585]

As for Jamar's value, it's a lot higher then people think. 2 weeks ago people were actually talking about being happy with 2nd round picks or lower for Brock Mclean.

Seaby was what. Traded for Pick 22.

I'd rather Jamar over Seaby.

What is Jamar's market value? Port need a ruckman. If Port have 8 and 24.

I think a pick somewhere in the middle of those would be fair.

Port need a ruck but if we lose Jamar we're in the same boat - at least short-term.

[Old Gregg 1]

Jamar offered new contract, according to Adam White on Twitter: http://twitter.com/Whitey927

TRADE WEEK: Melbourne has responded to interest in Mark Jamar and have offered him a two-year contract late this afternoon

Edited October 5, 2009 by Stop: Jurrahtime

[Demon trucker 1,776]

As for Jamar's value, it's a lot higher then people think. 2 weeks ago people were actually talking about being happy with 2nd round picks or lower for Brock Mclean.

Seaby was what. Traded for Pick 22.

mate jamar is about as important as a hole in my head,top 10 pick would be much more important, seaby is better, are you in love with jamar, because only one who is blinded by love would think 8 or 9 is not a good pick up for this 1980's tap ruckman, you have to get a few kicks and handpasses in this day and age of ruckman, unless your are a giant like sando

[Dee Fan 3,247]

Unless we are after Jolley we need Jamar he is the only true ruckman we have at present on the senior list. Spencer is a rookie, Martin and PJ are just stop gaps and Meesen is injured and unknown.

If we were clever we would go for Jolley and trade Jamar and we may be able to do it without losing too much. Jolley would probably be good for another 5 years and that would fit in with our plans for the next 4 to 6 years with Spencer moving through and maybe Meesen improving to take over when Jolley starts to decline.

Jamar had no currency two years ago now he is a wanted man, but we may want him as well.

[Left Field 313]

Is it possible we have countered, or leaked having countered, to give the impression of wishing to retain MJ whilst intending to trade him anyway?

I think its fair to say that MJ is not in the top 10 ruckmen in the comp (name your stat - hitouts, hitouts to advantage, posessions, marks in general play, marlks inside 50....).

Why on earth would he be worth any more than a low second or third round pick?

I'd do a deal in a heartbeat.

Edited October 5, 2009 by Left Field

[Dee Fan 3,247]

mate jamar is about as important as a hole in my head,top 10 pick would be much more important, seaby is better, are you in love with jamar, because only one who is blinded by love would think 8 or 9 is not a good pick up for this 1980's tap ruckman, you have to get a few kicks and handpasses in this day and age of ruckman, unless your are a giant like sando

If you have a look at Jamar's stats for the year I think you will find there were quite a few double digit possession games.

He also started to take marks and his ruck work was levels better than his previous years.

[Sir Why You Little 34,658]

Unless we are after Jolley we need Jamar he is the only true ruckman we have at present on the senior list. Spencer is a rookie, Martin and PJ are just stop gaps and Meesen is injured and unknown.

If we were clever we would go for Jolley and trade Jamar and we may be able to do it without losing too much. Jolley would probably be good for another 5 years and that would fit in with our plans for the next 4 to 6 years with Spencer moving through and maybe Meesen improving to take over when Jolley starts to decline.

Jamar had no currency two years ago now he is a wanted man, but we may want him as well.

I agree if we do Trade Jamar, we need a ready made Ruckmen for next season, So jolly is the only fit.

Otherwise Jamar is a required player unless jolly becomes available.

To think otherwise is ludicrous. Ruckmen take a long time to mature, & I think the Russian really showed a bit this year.