Changes for Rd 3 vs Adelaide

[Guest 45 double agent]

IN SYLVIA

OUT BRUCE

[Guest Balls_Grinter_14]

In: Sylvia

Out: Bartram

If Rivers fit.

In: Sylvia, Rivers

Out: Bartam, Newton

I won't buy any arguments that we must replace Newton with another tall forward. He didn't 'straighten us up' or 'provide a target' at all last week. He had 4 touches, 2 of which came from free kicks. He was rubbish. Again.

I'd probably move Bruce into the forward line rotation with Green, Petterd, Bate & Sylvia. Frankly, if we just cannot find Rivers a job to do down back, which is a fairly ridiculous notion really, then I'd rather have him up forward than Newton. Riv's the same size as Newton and at least Riv contests.

I like your thoughts on Rivers. Seriously. If we don't need him in the backline ATM why not throw him at FF. He is a great reader of the ball in flight, has a lovely set of hands and as you said is as tall as Newton. Sometime left field ideas bring success. I would give him a try if they are thinking of dropping Newton

[satyricon 267]

Each to their own...I will leave it at that. Don't want to start a blue. Yes u can have ure own opinions. Bate still has legs made of Cement!!! My major criticism

I wasn't asking for a blue I was asking you to explain your comments, if you wish to leave it that is cool with me

[Demon3 2,541]

In: Sylvia (Rivers if fit)

Out: Bartram (probably Newton)

This side needs some continuity. They need to play together, get settled, win together, it is so important.

Bennell was very lively against the pies, his to ordinary efforts were that, ordinary, lots of players have them, he needs to play so he can redeem himself.

Strauss cannot be dropped, it would be insane. The kid needs game time in the big league to learn, pressure is only absorbed when you are constantly under it, he is like a morton, just play him and get 40 games into him as quick as we can.

Someone suggested that Scully could do with a rest. Crazy, he and Trengove have been great, Scully has dropped a couple marks and made some mistakes, but i already feel better if he is near the contest, i feel like i can trust him.

[GawnWithTheWind 604]

INS: Sylvia, Garland (if fit), Martin

OUTS: Frawley, Newton, Dunn

Now hear me out.

Frawley had no influence on getting the ball out of defensive 50. Despite the fact that he really didn't cost us anything on the scoreboard, he wasn't nearly attacking enough to hurt the opposition at all.

Newton was also terrible. Again, he had no impact on the game for long periods of time and was the cause of some turnovers inside 50. We need players who are able to keep the ball in there so we can score. Newton didn't do this.

Dunn. Sure, he did some good things and scored a couple of goals, but he was also one of the biggest offenders when it came to turning the ball over in the forward 50. We do too much work on getting it in there to have it all undone by a couple of non-marks or poor kicks.

Scully also played poorly, but he's very much in our future, so I wouldn't drop him yet.

You have got to be kidding me. Frawley is a pillar of strength down in our backline... Why not drop davey, grimes, green and jamar too?

[H_T 3,049]

INS: Sylvia, Garland (if fit), Martin

OUTS: Frawley, Newton, Dunn

Now hear me out.

Frawley had no influence on getting the ball out of defensive 50......... he wasn't nearly attacking enough to hurt the opposition at all.

Umm. Did you see the game on Saturday, Chook ?

He was part of a number of attacking plays coming out of 50.

Scully also played poorly, but he's very much in our future, so I wouldn't drop him yet.

And Frawley isn't ?

[titan_uranus 25,212]

Umm. Did you see the game on Saturday, Chook ?

He was part of a number of attacking plays coming out of 50.

And Frawley isn't ?

Read the whole thread. He retracted those comments.

[H_T 3,049]

Read the whole thread. He retracted those comments.

Retracted...should have deleted the original comments. Haven't time to read backflips.

[Chook 15,023]

If we are picking our best side the changes should be:

IN: Sylvia, Rivers

OUT: Bennell, Strauss

Plus game comments.

Wow. Pretty much exactly what I got from the game too. The only thing I might disagree with is dropping Bennell. I'd do it if it's clear that we're not "punishing" him for squibbing, because that might make it worse. I trust the Club to do the right thing. I'd drop Strauss ahead of Bennell, but if dropping the latter would help him, I'd certainly do it.

[Chook 15,023]

Retracted...should have deleted the original comments. Haven't time to read backflips.

Why? They were once my opinions, but I saw I was wrong, admitted it and posted my new opinions. Should we retroactively delete everything that is incorrect?

[H_T 3,049]

Why? They were once my opinions, but I saw I was wrong, admitted it and posted my new opinions. Should we retroactively delete everything that is incorrect?

You have a point. Perhaps an edited post perhaps instead of a deleted post then.

[Chook 15,023]

I posted this in another thread, but thought it might have some value here too. I hope that's okay.

From footywire, a comparison of our 2009 team on that horrible day against Adelaide and the team that played Collingwood last week:

2009 VS ADELAIDE

Moloney, McLean, Morton

Davey, Bruce, Jones

Sylvia, Frawley, Petterd

Rivers, Johnson, Bennell

McDonald, Warnock, Bartram

Jetta, Bate, Dunn

Meesen, Miller, Newton, Martin

2010 VS COLLINGWOOD

Grimes, Davey, Bail

Green, Bate, Bartram

Moloney, Bruce, McDonald

Macdonald, Warnock, McKenzie

Bennell, Frawley, Dunn

Petterd, Scully, Jones

Strauss, Newton, Trengove, Jamar

INS: GRIMES, BAIL, GREEN, MACDONALD, MCKENZIE, SCULLY, TRENGOVE, JAMAR, Strauss

OUTS: MCLEAN, MORTON, Johnson, JETTA, Meesen, Miller, Martin, RIVERS, SYLVIA

Those in caps are who I would consider possibly in our best 22 if available tomorrow. Also note that Rivers and Sylvia, who are listed in the OUTS, both have a strong chance of returning to our team vs Adelaide.

This post has been edited by Chook: Yesterday, 05:31 PM

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

Here's a crazy idea...

In: Nil

Out: Nil

Would it be possible that they drop no-one? Let the side get used to one another?

[Felix 92]

Here's a crazy idea...

In: Nil

Out: Nil

Would it be possible that they drop no-one? Let the side get used to one another?

No Sylvia?

[45HG 1,559]

Here's a crazy idea...

In: Nil

Out: Nil

Would it be possible that they drop no-one? Let the side get used to one another?

So you wouldn't bring Sylvia in if fit? You're joking aren't you?

[Chook 15,023]

Here's a crazy idea...

In: Nil

Out: Nil

Would it be possible that they drop no-one? Let the side get used to one another?

Bailey really talked up Rivers' leadership on FC the other day, so I would expect him to come in. And Sylvia selects himself, so I couldn't see this happening. But the fact that we did so well means that the Football Department need to have very good reasons for dropping the guys they do.

[DeeZee 7,463]

Out Bartram, Strauss

In Sylvia, Rivers

[GawnWithTheWind 604]

I think Bartram will definetly go. I can't see him playing many more games for the red and blue.... As much as his tagging game was ok, I don't think he can hold his spot if Rivers and Sylvia are fit. But the 2nd person to be dropped will be interesting... If they dont bring in another ruckman, then Newton is safe, because he can do OK in the ruck while Jamar rests. So its really between Bennell, Strauss and sorry to say it Bruce.

However, I think it will be:

Ins: Sylvia - Rivers

Outs: Strauss - Bartram

Bennell gives us a bit more of an X factor, he is unpredictable... and Strauss is the unlucky one that has to be chopped.

[GawnWithTheWind 604]

So to continue my team would look like:

FB: Rivers - Warnock - Bruce

HB: Grimes - Frawley - MacDonald

C: Trengove - McDonald - Scully

HF: Sylvia - Bate - Green

FF: Dunn - Newton - Pettard

R: Jamar - Moloney - Davey

B: Bail - McKenzie - Jones - Bennell

[titan_uranus 25,212]

Here's a crazy idea...

In: Nil

Out: Nil

Would it be possible that they drop no-one? Let the side get used to one another?

Sylvia will play if fit.

But other than that I'd leave the team as is.

[Inner Demon 1]

Rivers also.

Sylvia & Rivers are in our Top 10 players. No doubt.

When fit, they play.

[Grand New Flag 3,227]

After watching the replay last night I am suprised anyone could suggest Bruce should be dropped. Maybe peoples expectations are too high with Bruce, regardless I thought he was one of our best. He is a versitle, experianced, utility and there is no way he is about to be dropped.

[Guest Balls_Grinter_14]

I think Bartram will definetly go. I can't see him playing many more games for the red and blue....

Let's hope we can offload him to the GC and ensure that we retain Petterd!!!!

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

After watching the replay last night I am suprised anyone could suggest Bruce should be dropped. Maybe peoples expectations are too high with Bruce, regardless I thought he was one of our best. He is a versitle, experianced, utility and there is no way he is about to be dropped.

correct, he would be one of the first few picked every week, he would have to play about 5 nightmares in a row to get dropped and even then they'd be hesitant because a)he is likely to do whatever job they need him to do including shutting down a dangerous player b)he is one of the precious few with a mature, experienced head out there and they just need him there for the kids.. especially if things go pear-shaped

will be very interesting to see if JB gets dropped. Either way I can understand the call, I think they will leave him in though. Sylvia please be fit and come in for a BOG 2010 debut

[WonnaJurah 5]

Let's hope we can offload him to the GC and ensure that we retain Petterd!!!!

i was hoping Newton