Bailey as Development Coach?

[burn in hell 0]

There is alot of talk about Bailey's performance as senior coach, however, we may agree that he is a good development coach. MAKE HIM DEVELOPMENT COACH and let him work with the young players that he has already invested 2 years of time. By having him as development coach, we can kinda honor his 2 year contract, and our money does not entirely go to waste.

VINEY FOR COACH

Fooball Manager: Connolly

Assitants; Lovell, Yates, Lyon, West

Development Coach; Bailey

Fitness; Tingay

Lets have as many MFC boys creating the future spirit of the playing group.

Rock'n'Roll, DEMONTIME!!!!

[praha 11,240]

lol

Another extreme.

One extreme says Bailey can't coach and is no good, even though he's really only had one full year with the young players.

The other extreme is that Bailey is a brilliant development coach, even though no young player has really gone out and beyond in his time at the club.

Also, can a mod change the thread title to "Bailey as Development Coach?" or something similar.

Edited March 31, 2010 by calabreseboy

[Guest Rojik of the Arctic]

The important thing is that nobody has overreacted and hit the panic button after one game.

[WonnaJurah 5]

Viney moved back to SA to be near family,he wont be back that quick. Bailey is contracted ,lets honour it and see how year goes

[Keyser Söze 0]

The important thing is that nobody has overreacted and hit the panic button after one game.

Nice call.

Re: the OP,

Bailey would happily be demoted to Development Coach??

Did you even think things through, or just hurriedly post cos you wanted to get it out there before the idea leaked out of your brain..?

[Inner Demon 1]

I liked the bit where Garry Lyon goes from being categorically disinterested in coaching in the AFL to being an assistant coach for some reason.

[grazman 7,432]

If Bailey were to be replaced at the end of his contract then the most logical option is to get an established premiership coach someone like a Malthouse or a Mark Williams.

[WonnaJurah 5]

I liked the bit where Garry Lyon goes from being categorically disinterested in coaching in the AFL to being an assistant coach for some reason.

same,we dont have to have ex Dees players as coaches. Why not ask Woey or Yeats

[Guest hangon007]

If Bailey were to be replaced at the end of his contract then the most logical option is to get an established premiership coach someone like a Malthouse or a Mark Williams.

Could we afford the coin ($$$$) to get an "established premiership coach" - irrespective of the names people want to throw forward.

[Dalrot 85]

Just when I thought the standard of threads couldn't get any worse this week..

[burn in hell 0]

Nice call.

Re: the OP,

Bailey would happily be demoted to Development Coach??

Did you even think things through, or just hurriedly post cos you wanted to get it out there before the idea leaked out of your brain..?

It is evident that the performances of 2010 are lacking intensity. Bailey is responsible for that. Remember, he intentially lost games for us last year so he could get his draft picks for the club. Lets give him the opportunity of developing them.

We have signed him for 2 years, right?

He is not going to get a senior AFL position anywhere else.

[Bates Mate 4,486]

There is alot of talk about Bailey's performance as senior coach, however, we may agree that he is a good development coach. MAKE HIM DEVELOPMENT COACH and let him work with the young players that he has already invested 2 years of time. By having him as development coach, we can kinda honor his 2 year contract, and our money does not entirely go to waste.

VINEY FOR COACH

Fooball Manager: Connolly

Assitants; Lovell, Yates, Lyon, West

Development Coach; Bailey

Fitness; Tingay

Lets have as many MFC boys creating the future spirit of the playing group.

Rock'n'Roll, DEMONTIME!!!!

You forgot

Anger management coach Phil Read

Defensive coach Phil Gilbert

Skills coaches Paul Hopgood and Simon Godfrey

Weights coach - Cameron Hunter and the great Robbie Flower

Dietician - Allen Jackovich

[satyricon 267]

Bailey is not responsible for the intensity of the players, the players are, I do not expect our Rd 11 team to look anything like the Rd 1 team, we have had one poor game, I am willing to wait until at least Rd 11......also how could we get rid of Wellman and Williams, Wellman is developing really good defenders and Williams along with West has taken a guy off the Rookie List and turned him into a player who only played 60odd % of the game but was one of our better players.

Bailey is the coach, the whole club is behind him, he is not going anywhere, get over it

[Guest hangon007]

You forgot

Anger management coach Phil Read

Defensive coach Phil Gilbert

Skills coaches Paul Hopgood and Simon Godfrey

Weights coach - Cameron Hunter and the great Robbie Flower

Dietician - Allen Jackovich

GOLD ... LMAO

Phil might need an assistant - Mark Jackson

Edited March 31, 2010 by hangon007

[Range Rover 1,935]

Bailey is not responsible for the intensity of the players, the players are

The best AFL coaches inspire intensity in their players. Yes, it has got to come from within the individual player, but the coach

plays an essential role in lighting this spark.

It was interesting to listen to 4-time premiership player Martin Pike on SEN the other night discuss exactly this topic.

He said that the teams in which he achieved ultimate success (North Melbourne and Brisbane) both revered and feared

their coaches. He said if Leigh Matthews or Denis Pagan set you a task, you carried it out. No questions asked.

Does Dean Bailey inspire such passion and commitment? That's the key question.

Edited March 31, 2010 by Spirit of Barassi

[burn in hell 0]

The best AFL coaches inspire intensity in their players. Yes, it has got to come from within the individual player, but the coach

plays an essential role in lighting this spark.

It was interesting to listen to 4-time premiership player Martin Pike on SEN the other night discuss exactly this topic.

He said that the teams in which he achieved ultimate success (North Melbourne and Brisbane) both revered and feared

their coaches. He said if Leigh Matthews or Denis Pagan set you a task, you carried it out. No questions asked.

Does Dean Bailey inspire such passion and commitment? That's the key question.

Exactly.

Remember years ago when Schimmelbush coached North. They got flogged in the practice matches, then played Rd1 in Adelaide where were insipid, Got smashed by about 130pts. The players were not inspired by the coach. Coach was sacked, I believe Pagan might have taken over at that time and they won 2 premierships in the next decade.

[Supermercado 2,797]

Exactly.

Remember years ago when Schimmelbush coached North. They got flogged in the practice matches, then played Rd1 in Adelaide where were insipid, Got smashed by about 130pts. The players were not inspired by the coach. Coach was sacked, I believe Pagan might have taken over at that time and they won 2 premierships in the next decade.

Obviously having a club legend as their coach didn't really work.. Come on down Todd

[stevenDEMON 0]

The important thing is that nobody has overreacted and hit the panic button after one game.

yes just the one game, i forgot about the last 2 spoons.

I do not mind any supporter putting the blowtorch on the coach, i know people are saying give him time, but how much bloody time.

[satyricon 267]

The best AFL coaches inspire intensity in their players. Yes, it has got to come from within the individual player, but the coach

plays an essential role in lighting this spark.

It was interesting to listen to 4-time premiership player Martin Pike on SEN the other night discuss exactly this topic.

He said that the teams in which he achieved ultimate success (North Melbourne and Brisbane) both revered and feared

their coaches. He said if Leigh Matthews or Denis Pagan set you a task, you carried it out. No questions asked.

Does Dean Bailey inspire such passion and commitment? That's the key question.

To carry out a task anybody can do it is how well you do that task, you can take Pike's statement a few ways.

The problem I think with us and this is not demeaning the players, is we haven't really got a player who is a superstar and can take the game by the scruff of the neck and inspire the other players, one head goes down and the rest follow, as I have said previously the team by Rd 11 will bear no resemblance to the team than played in Rd 1

I would assume that the rest of the 'senior' players, in fact all the players have been put on notice, no matter what your name is you will spend time at Casey if you do not produce.....

[Guest Rojik of the Arctic]

yes just the one game, i forgot about the last 2 spoons.

I do not mind any supporter putting the blowtorch on the coach, i know people are saying give him time, but how much bloody time.

Well the first year was the clean out year and last year he would have been crucified for winning games by the groupthinkers on this site. So we put up a bad showing in one game this year and he should be sacked? Who in their right minds expected us to be more than 1 win in the first lot of games anyway?

[Yokozuna 1,004]

If we were to get a coach to replace Bailey, which I am not advocating, do you think he would really want to stick around and be a Developmemt/Assistant coach?

[Paul Gardner 6]

There is alot of talk about Bailey's performance as senior coach, however, we may agree that he is a good development coach. MAKE HIM DEVELOPMENT COACH and let him work with the young players that he has already invested 2 years of time. By having him as development coach, we can kinda honor his 2 year contract, and our money does not entirely go to waste.

VINEY FOR COACH

Fooball Manager: Connolly

Assitants; Lovell, Yates, Lyon, West

Development Coach; Bailey

Fitness; Tingay

Lets have as many MFC boys creating the future spirit of the playing group.

Rock'n'Roll, DEMONTIME!!!!

I don't think you know anything about football or football clubs or developing young AFL players.

A developement Coach is a Head Coach who is put in charge to teach & develope the players into a team.

The definition of a finishing coach is one who can then instill the intensity into that team to go through to premierships.

Alistair Clarkson has proven to be able to do both. As have most Premiership Coaches at some stage.

Bailey needs time to develope his young list of talent. This is not yet if you hadn't noticed, a Grand Final list.

[Sir Why You Little 37,033]

The best AFL coaches inspire intensity in their players. Yes, it has got to come from within the individual player, but the coach

plays an essential role in lighting this spark.

It was interesting to listen to 4-time premiership player Martin Pike on SEN the other night discuss exactly this topic.

He said that the teams in which he achieved ultimate success (North Melbourne and Brisbane) both revered and feared

their coaches. He said if Leigh Matthews or Denis Pagan set you a task, you carried it out. No questions asked.

Does Dean Bailey inspire such passion and commitment? That's the key question.

Wish i had Heard that. I like Martin Pike. When he talks Footy i listen, he has been through it all. From Fitzroy to 4 Premierships.

Maybe the cub should get him down to talk to our young guys...not many have 4 premierships in the modern era.

[Supermercado 2,797]

Maybe the cub should get him down to talk to our young guys...not many have 4 premierships in the modern era.

Especially after playing for us and Fitzroy

Talk about a charmed life!

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

wasn't pike a bit of a dropkick and that was why Melbourne got rid of him?