Cranbourne East to reappear on the Rail Map

[beelzebub 22,269]

Comments of another poster in a different thread regarding the sighting of engineers hovering around a rail crossing on the Cranbourne Berwick road promted me to check the DOI site. Here .Vic transport plan mentions the extension to Cranbourne East in a very lacksadaisy style way. Its very short on info regarding timelines etc but it is happening. This will be fantastic for the progress and continued growth of Casey Fileds as well as any lazy footballers who find driving a pain .....

A reference here Cranbourne East-Wiki in the Transport section makes mention of it being open by 2015...make of that what we might. I would have thought that eminently possible. With so much promised transport wise out west the Gov will have to sweeten the pot with something out this way.

There is very little likely hood that the Leongatha Line will reopen for trains. It will be interesting to see whether the ideas and thinkings go beyond Cranbourne East.. If not then they can for all intents and purposes pull up the rail at Cranbourne Berwick Rd and locate a Station on the north side having access from it ( C-B rd)

This page shows the suggested platform...where is Casey Fields but it ( for me ) makes more sense to push it along further bettering access to the Fields whilst preserving usefulness to other Complexes nearby. A Pedestrian overpass ( over C-B rd) would provide safe thoroughfare for the throngs that will one day swarm on CF..wonder if they will have enough common sense to build one !!

All these little things falling into place

Edited January 7, 2010 by belzebub59

[H_T 2,941]

You should nominate for council.

The proposed station isn't that far away BB. Besides it is close to the schools (Casey Grammar School; Chisolm Inst. Of Tafe) which would suit the municipality.

Edited January 7, 2010 by High Tower

[JACKATTACK 17]

A Pedestrian overpass ( over C-B rd) would provide safe thoroughfare for the throngs that will one day swarm on CF..wonder if they will have enough common sense to build one !!

Pedestrian access!?? More train lines? Why do that when you can just build more freeways? <_<

[beelzebub 22,269]

The Station if and when built will probably end up as shown...but keep in mind this is purely as a result of previous planning and the assumption the line would continue beyond. In that vein the time taken to cross a rail line is less if the station is further away from the crossing. i.e less impact via boom gates. its very unlikely now that this line will continue on beyond cranny East. Staging and other requirements may result in a differing style of station with two "platforms" a la Frankston. Physically one but two sides. That and Staging sidings. Cranbourne has been earmarked in the past but nothing is in concrete..until it is.. Given teh EOL status this station wil require greater carparking than currently apportioned.. Some sort of transit connection with busses etc.. . All this is far betteerr caterd to with teh land available near B-C road than cramming it all in where the current proposal suggests. Again. Cranbourne East is likely to be an EOL..not a through station as originally thought.

Im sure the old folks dont want a station ...and all that might attract on their doorstep either. You telling me kids cant walk a few hundred metres??.

The current vogue is to design transit exchanges.. given the facilities it will serve... where I suggest has ( not just bias ..but logic ) far more advantages than where dotted in at present.

Run for council ??? you nutz ????? :D ( not in that area anyway..lol )

[Supermercado 2,645]

They'll have to buff up frequency and travel time on the Cranny line to make any sort of extension worthwhile. It's a joke at the moment - there's no point in adding more track if it's still going to take 500 years to get there from the city.

[Demon Tragic 0]

Wouldn't hold your breath BB. They've been spruiking that station for 5 years now. I wouldn't rely on Casy Council or State Gov to pony up with the goods anytime soon. It took them 5 years longer than it should have to build the Berwick Bypass, and when they did, they only put in 2 lanes!!! Now they wonder why the traffic banks up on the bypass??!! Complete morons who have a proven track record of way too little and way too late.

[Trisul 640]

They'll have to buff up frequency and travel time on the Cranny line to make any sort of extension worthwhile. It's a joke at the moment - there's no point in adding more track if it's still going to take 500 years to get there from the city.

It's about an hour. The same for the other direction (ie to MCG). You could drive it in less.

Would be really nice if this particular development finished within the timeframe mentioned but also with the sensible end of line adjustments.

I recall a shuttle bus to Casey Fields from Cranbourne station mentioned previously. Perhaps, in time, a Demon bus could do the same on game day (at this stage NAB challenge, etc). Has to be a bit nicer than the Demon car though..

[Supermercado 2,645]

It's about an hour. The same for the other direction (ie to MCG). You could drive it in less.

Would be really nice if this particular development finished within the timeframe mentioned but also with the sensible end of line adjustments.

I recall a shuttle bus to Casey Fields from Cranbourne station mentioned previously. Perhaps, in time, a Demon bus could do the same on game day (at this stage NAB challenge, etc). Has to be a bit nicer than the Demon car though..

I'd like to think that they'd install extra track between Caulfield and Dandenong to allow more expresses to go to Dandy. Should fire things up a bit.

[casey scorp 2]

The proposed extension of the line to Cranbourne East as shown on current Victorian Transport Plan is the end of the line.

This document is the Cranbourne East Structure Plan exhibited by the Growth Areas Authority:

http://www.gaa.vic.gov.au/Assets/Files/Cra...PP_20090619.pdf

It does not show any extension of the line beyond Cranbourne East, but it does acknowledge (in Section 2.1 on page 5) that the City of Casey has identified a site for a future station at Casey Fields and suggests that this needs to be reviewed as part of planning for the possible future "Clyde Growth Area" (an area currently subject to dispute between the Government and the Opposition over the future Growth Area Infrastructure Charge, which is currently before Parliament).

This document also shows (on Plan 5 on page 10) a "future urban structure plan". This shows an expanded Casey Fields with a road, Casey Fields Boulevard, running down the full extent of the western boundary. Plan 9 on page 28 also shows where the traffic lights will be located.

Edited January 7, 2010 by casey scorp

[Rogue 585]

It does not show any extension of the line beyond Cranbourne East, but it does acknowledge (in Section 2.1 on page 5) that the City of Casey has identified a site for a future station at Casey Fields and suggests that this needs to be reviewed

Ask the residents of Rowville (and Doncaster?) about this

[bumblebee 0]

it will happen sooner than people think, you dont spend 37millon on a swimming pool and have no public transport leading to it.

[Whispering_Jack 28,025]

it will happen sooner than people think, you dont spend 37millon on a swimming pool and have no public transport leading to it.

I hope they call the station Casey Fields rather than Cranbourne East.

[casey scorp 2]

I hope they call the station Casey Fields rather than Cranbourne East.

Hopefully there'll be 2 stations - Cranbourne East as planned and then an event station at Casey Fields.

[bumblebee 0]

I hope they call the station Casey Fields rather than Cranbourne East.

i dont understand, who cares what its called, its a railway station.

[Matt Demon 1,387]

Casey Scorp your obviously In the loop with whats going on down there. Is the plan to eventually build a boutique like stadium In the coming years?

[casey scorp 2]

Casey Scorp your obviously In the loop with whats going on down there. Is the plan to eventually build a boutique like stadium In the coming years?

A boutique stadium, capable of holding 20-25,000 people (not all seated) is on the cards at Casey Fields provided:

* funding sources can be secured ($50-60 million)

* the AFL is prepared to schedule a number of low-drawing matches there (eg MFC v Western Sydney, Gold Coast, Fre etc).

[Matt Demon 1,387]

A boutique stadium, capable of holding 20-25,000 people (not all seated) is on the cards at Casey Fields provided:

* funding sources can be secured ($50-60 million)

* the AFL is prepared to schedule a number of low-drawing matches there (eg MFC v Western Sydney, Gold Coast, Fre etc).

What sort of time frame are we looking at? I think the hole Casey thing will really take off once we start playing games down there.

[casey scorp 2]

What sort of time frame are we looking at? I think the hole Casey thing will really take off once we start playing games down there.

Any such development (and timeframe) will be dependent on the strategy of the AFL in relation to accommodating small crowd games.

The World Cup soccer bid might also play a part in the negotiations/funding around the establishment of a boutique style stadium.

[The Great Pretender 430]

Any such development (and timeframe) will be dependent on the strategy of the AFL in relation to accommodating small crowd games.

The World Cup soccer bid might also play a part in the negotiations/funding around the establishment of a boutique style stadium.

Doesn't the AFL have an agreement with the Etihad Stadium people not to develop any new grounds for playing AFL?

[casey scorp 2]

Doesn't the AFL have an agreement with the Etihad Stadium people not to develop any new grounds for playing AFL?

It does - no "new" stadium for 25 years from the Etihad agreement. Interestingly, existing stadiums at that time included Princes Park and Victroia Park.

Anything can be negotiated though.

My argument is that Etihad would be relatively unconcerned by a small capacity stadium on the fringe of Melbourne, whereas it would be concerned about the proposed E-gate stadium near Docklands which was talked up by the City of Melbourne Lord Mayor last year.

I'd like to see 2 to 4 MFC matches played at Casey Fields in a boutique style stadium (a bit like Manuka) - it would be relatively cheap to open the stadium compared to running such an event at the G.

[MO FINE 146]

i dont understand, who cares what its called, its a railway station.

You don't understand much about marketing do you?

[beelzebub 22,269]

Doesn't the AFL have an agreement with the Etihad Stadium people not to develop any new grounds for playing AFL?

Now this is purely my understanding of this arrangement;I believe the AFL is unable to develop a new venue within a certain proximity to Etihad. It woul need a negotitated release to do anything at E-Gate.. or the Gov could do it off its own bat. The Gov would have no such restrictions as it can and invariably does what it likes. The same such would surely apply to casey. If the Gov thought it a worthy and important enough venue and sporting infrastructure ( of overiding signicance) it could push ahead with grants and such with all but total disregard to what Collins and Co might think.

There are ways around al lof this if the will ( political and otherwise ) are there.

As others suppose..Collins would rather a 20-25 cap venue out at casey than one on his doorstep

[H_T 2,941]

It does not show any extension of the line beyond Cranbourne East, but it does acknowledge (in Section 2.1 on page 5) that the City of Casey has identified a site for a future station at Casey Fields and suggests that this needs to be reviewed as part of planning for the possible future "Clyde Growth Area" (an area currently subject to dispute between the Government and the Opposition over the future Growth Area Infrastructure Charge, which is currently before Parliament).

This document also shows (on Plan 5 on page 10) a "future urban structure plan". This shows an expanded Casey Fields with a road, Casey Fields Boulevard, running down the full extent of the western boundary. Plan 9 on page 28 also shows where the traffic lights will be located.

A boutique stadium, capable of holding 20-25,000 people (not all seated) is on the cards at Casey Fields provided:

* funding sources can be secured ($50-60 million)

* the AFL is prepared to schedule a number of low-drawing matches there (eg MFC v Western Sydney, Gold Coast, Fre etc).

The World Cup soccer bid might also play a part in the negotiations/funding around the establishment of a boutique style stadium.

My thoughts too. The World Cup bid could fast track the development and hence hinge on the funding sources you mention ($50-$60 million) for the above mentioned. Alot of planning to be done.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

I'd like to see 2 to 4 MFC matches played at Casey Fields in a boutique style stadium (a bit like Manuka) - it would be relatively cheap to open the stadium compared to running such an event at the G.

I agree.

Not only would it be a major step in embracing the Casey community, it could also provide a large financial windfall for the MFC, in particular for low-crowd games (Fremantle, Port Adelaide and alike). I would much rather Melbourne play a few games in Casey as opposed to Darwin or Canberra, not only for the logistical factors but also because Casey now means something to the Melbourne Football Club.

Edited January 12, 2010 by Clint Bizkit

[deanox 8,737]

my only problem with playing games out there is that 20K is not enough imo.

i think 30k is a more realistic number.

we are struggling atm and granted these games sometimes draw as low as 14k. however, reality is they usually hover just below the 20k mark and could comfortably be 20-25 k if we were in top 4 contention.

in 10 years, with population growth etc, does a 25k stadium become defunct? and how many of the 20-25k are standing room etc? i think you will quickly turn the footballing public off if standing rooms becomes the main GA section.