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I heard that Eddie was put under the pump at Collingwood's AGM over a number of issues including how the Pies let Liam Jurrah slip to Melbourne after spending the first part of 2008 with their VFL club. Supporters not happy.

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I heard that Eddie was put under the pump at Collingwood's AGM over a number of issues including how the Pies let Liam Jurrah slip to Melbourne after spending the first part of 2008 with their VFL club. Supporters not happy.

Not surprised. Collingwood did slip up there... but I'm not confident he would've blossomed the way he has and will at MFC.

Not that we have a superior player welfare system in place or anything; I just think we coincidentally had the perfect setup of indigenous players at the club and coming into the club, to make this adjustment for him easier than it would be otherwise.

Whelan being the old head on the way out, Davey the star player who has been around a few years and can guide him through, young Aussie roughly the same age and a promising up & comer, and then the young boys Benny & Jett.

I just don't see Leon Davis and Brad Dick making him feel as welcome.

I know it doesn't have to be a race dominated issue, but I really think the boys feel more comfortable among one another due to their similar backgrounds.

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Not surprised. Collingwood did slip up there... but I'm not confident he would've blossomed the way he has and will at MFC.

Not that we have a superior player welfare system in place or anything; I just think we coincidentally had the perfect setup of indigenous players at the club and coming into the club, to make this adjustment for him easier than it would be otherwise.

Whelan being the old head on the way out, Davey the star player who has been around a few years and can guide him through, young Aussie roughly the same age and a promising up & comer, and then the young boys Benny & Jett.

I just don't see Leon Davis and Brad Dick making him feel as welcome.

I know it doesn't have to be a race dominated issue, but I really think the boys feel more comfortable among one another due to their similar backgrounds.

Collingwood have their share of indigeonous players on their list, i doubt Liam would have been treated any different.

Collingwood stuffed up badly and we were just lucky and quick to pounce.

The one area i think Liam is lucky is that at this stage MFC players are not under the day to day pressure that the Filth players are.

I heard Eddiewood on Radio this morning, it certainly sounded like a very colourful and fiery AGM.

Lets Hope the Rumblings of discontent continue to fester!! :lol:

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Didn`t he return home to care for a sick/dying friend and things kind of fell apart from there ? Would have been a tricky situation for both parties.

no idea on that. A friend of mine said Liam was the type of player that was not focused, missed training & his heart was not in the game... thats why the pies did not develop him!!!! ... Just a jealous Pies fan, mind you he mentioned after a few games from Jurrah.

Their loss our GAIN, and what a gain that was, LJ is freakin awesome. :lol:

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di4r is right; Collingwood didn't 'drop the ball' here so much as we got lucky. It's still satisfying to know we grabbed him from right under their noses.

*Cue post from The Old Xavarian about how Jurrah is a flash in the pan, will be delisted in two years and Collingwood never wanted him in the first place*

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*Cue post from The Old Xavarian about how Jurrah is a flash in the pan, will be delisted in two years and Collingwood never wanted him in the first place*

* This is not an invitation for a response from said poster, but a replacement for that post to save time, energy, and the general Demonland public from having to deal with said poster *

You left the disclaimer out, 2SJ.


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Collingwood are seething, but to be honest who knows if those smug bastards would have even selected him if we didn't. If they were keen on him, they should have picked him up in the ND. I understand our reasons for waiting and seeing what happened during the end of that ND, Collingwood had seen his talents and should not have taken the risk of Melbourne claiming him in the PSD. Where they trying to get him as cheap as possible? Certainly looked that way by not using a ND selection on him. Where they hoping he would slip further into the rookie draft?? If so we may never have go to see Liam on the big stage.

Were we lucky? Not really, we finished last and were in a prime position to pick any diamond in the rough via the PSD or RD. Where we lucky Collingwood wouldn't roll the dice on him in the ND- very lucky!

I do hope LJ turns up the heat and makes Collingwood really suffer over missing out on such a unique talent. F%#k Collingwood!

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That is not entirely true. Collingwood did want him. He was uncontactable which for us in modern western cities is hard to comprehend but it is the case out there particularly when tragedy strikes. The AFL bent the rules for Betheras to get him registered for PSD. I'm sure Collingwood wanted to keep him quiet but it was too late and you guys took him with PSD.

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That is not entirely true. Collingwood did want him. He was uncontactable which for us in modern western cities is hard to comprehend but it is the case out there particularly when tragedy strikes. The AFL bent the rules for Betheras to get him registered for PSD. I'm sure Collingwood wanted to keep him quiet but it was too late and you guys took him with PSD.

Yeah. That's what I thought I said.

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Yeah. That's what I thought I said.

You said that Collingwood decided that he wasn't worth pursing him. That is not the case they did want him but luckily for Melbourne, and all pathological Collingwood haters like me, it was impossible once you guys decided you wanted him.

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I really can't buy that. Collingwood is supposed to be a professional club. If they wanted to pursue Liam then they would have made damn sure that his papers for the ND were properly completed and lodged. They either lacked the professionalism or didn't care enough about Liam. It looks very much like the latter.

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Given how Collingwood scours the country with a fine-tooth comb and invites every 17 year old who's ever looked at a football down to training, it stands to reason that SOME of those players will be overlooked and turn into good players at other clubs.

Anyone remember a certain Alwyn Davey? We had our reasons for not drafting him, and then he goes and gets picked up by the Dons and is now in their 22.

This happens to every club, and I reckon it's more a reflection on their rabid toothless supporters than their administration. Perhaps now they'll think more about how transparent their inner workings are.

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I can assure you all that Collingwood had lost interest in Liam, which is why they never arranged for him to be nominated for the national draft. Rupert Betheras, myself and a couple of others then pestered the AFL to allow him to nominate for the PSD. Melbourne had first pick and the rest is history.


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I can assure you all that Collingwood had lost interest in Liam, which is why they never arranged for him to be nominated for the national draft. Rupert Betheras, myself and a couple of others then pestered the AFL to allow him to nominate for the PSD. Melbourne had first pick and the rest is history.

That's Good to know RB, you are a good man. I Hope Liam can remind Collingwood regularly how creative a footballer he is. :rolleyes:

Just wondering RB, "have you got a Demons Scarf yet??

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I really can't buy that. Collingwood is supposed to be a professional club. If they wanted to pursue Liam then they would have made damn sure that his papers for the ND were properly completed and lodged. They either lacked the professionalism or didn't care enough about Liam. It looks very much like the latter.

Even then he Liam would have had to be drafted by Collingwood ahead of 15 other teams. This thread is all about kicking Collingwood and nothing about what really happened. Although it is allways fun to kick Collingwood.

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I can assure you all that Collingwood had lost interest in Liam, which is why they never arranged for him to be nominated for the national draft. Rupert Betheras, myself and a couple of others then pestered the AFL to allow him to nominate for the PSD. Melbourne had first pick and the rest is history.

Exactly

You get a different story at Collingwood simply because they need to save face and put spin on why Liam isnt a Magpie

Having followed football for such a long time the team the least likley to take on someone like Liam would be Collingwood

Taking on and knowing how to handle it being my point

The memories of Allan Macallister still haunt Victoria Park IMO

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