10 untouchables

[old55 23,557]

With Morton re-signing for 2 years that protects him from being snapped up by GC as an uncontracted player but presumably leaves the WS door open.

Which 10 players are untouchables (including Morton if he's in your list) and must be protected from GC and WS poaching.

I think there's a strong case for signing this year's pick 1 & 2 to 3 years to lock them in - so you can leave them out of the list (or consider it to be 12).

[PS. It should be said that I think we can protect more than 10 with good negotiation but 10 is a nice number to sharpen your thinking - see Pants good work below, it's not easy]

Edited August 11, 2009 by old55

[pantaloons 2,019]

Not necessarily in order:

1. Watts

2. Grimes

3. Morton

4. Davey

5. Frawley

6. Garland

7. Blease

8. Bennell

9. Jurrah

10. Jones

Jones likely won't be in many people's lists, but I'd hate to lose him for diddly. That leaves the likes of Strauss, Warnock, Moloney, Maric, McLean, Rivers and Martin and Sylvia exposed. I could probably swap the names Jones and Bennell with the likes of Sylvia, McLean and Strauss, but I'll leave it at that for now. I should add that for me, Watts, Grimes, Morton, Frawley and Garland are the only certainties to be on that list.

Edited August 11, 2009 by pantaloons

[Roost It 1,434]

Not necessarily in order:

1. Watts

2. Grimes

3. Morton

4. Davey

5. Frawley

6. Garland

7. Blease

8. Bennell

9. Jurrah

10. Jones

Jones likely won't be in many people's lists, but I'd hate to lose him for diddly. That leaves the likes of Strauss, Warnock, Moloney, Maric, McLean, Rivers and Martin and Sylvia exposed. I could probably swap the names Jones and Bennell with the likes of Sylvia, McLean and Strauss, but I'll leave it at that for now. I should add that for me, Watts, Grimes, Morton, Frawley and Garland are the only certainties to be on that list.

1. Watts

2. Scully

3. Grimes

4. Morton

5. Frawley

6. Garland

7. Blease

8. Jurrah

9. Strauss

10. Sylvia

[H_T 3,043]

Not in order: -

1. Watts

2. Scully

3. Morton

4. Blease

5. Jurrah

6. Frawley

7. Trengove

8. Grimes

9. Garland

10. Sylvia

edit:

11. Bennell

12. Davey

I'll consider it to be 12.

Edited August 11, 2009 by High Tower

[old55 23,557]

I thought it said "Do feed the lions"!

You can ignore the instructions in the OP as you wish - hey it's an internet forum after all.

But you don't need to include "Scully" and "Trengove" in your top 10, it's a current top 10 - top 12 if you include this year's pick 1 and 2.

Edited August 11, 2009 by old55

[Mousey 47]

Watts

Jurrah

Wonna

Jones

Moloney

Garland

Strauss

Blease

Meeson

Stef Martin

[Scully The Tank Engine 0]

It's hard because i'm not really sure of the current contract situation of most of the players. Also don't GC only have a 'capacity' to sign 1 uncontracted player from each club? Does that mean they can just pick any un-contracted player they like (as in the draft system)? or do they have to negotiate with the player?

If they can recruit any 'one' un-contracted player they like from us then i'd want to contract these guys (aside from Morton who's already signed on again...)

1. Watts

2. Grimes

3. Frawley

4. Blease

5. Strauss

6. Sylvia

7. Jurrah

8. Bennell

9. Bate

10. Garland

I've left out the likes of Davey, Green, McLean, etc.. because its imperative we keep our best players under the age of 23 together imo. (would like to put Maric in there too...)

[torpedo 33]

1. Scully

2. Watts

3. Trengrove

4. Davey

5. Grimes

6. Sylvia

7. Morton

8. Garland

9. Frawley

10. Jurrah

In that order.

I should add that I have Davey so high because I believe he is the glue that binds the brother hood together and if we can keep him a Demon for his career it will go a long way to securing the services of Jurrah, Bennell, Aussie, etc.

Edited August 11, 2009 by torpedo

[Scully The Tank Engine 0]

I should add that I have Davey so high because I believe he is the glue that binds the brother hood together and if we can keep him a Demon for his career it will go a long way to securing the services of Jurrah, Bennell, Aussie, etc.

Yeah, that's a really good point I didn't consider. Couldn't imagine the Flash would want to defect to the GC though...He's Melbourne through & through!!

[e25 5]

Does it have to be 10?

Don't you just end up including borderline players in that case?

[Kit Walker 225]

Watts

Grimes

Garland

Frawley

Morton

Can only find 5 at the moment that cover both the WS and GC introduction. If we are just talking GC, then add Jurrah, Blease, Stauss, Bennell and Wona - mostly because it's too hard to judge how much upside there will be (as opposed to could be in a perfect world) at the moment.

[old55 23,557]

Does it have to be 10?

Don't you just end up including borderline players in that case?

List however many you want up to 10 then, like Kit did

Remember that means you're prepared to let others go to GC or WS - I'd be amazed if you don't want to protect at least 10.

BTW, the AFL has some secret draft compensation formula for clubs losing uncontracted to GC and WS so we don't lose the player for nothing.

[discworld demon 0]

I'm surprised no one mentions Ricky Petterd! Maybe not top 10 but the way he's been playing and improving in recent weeks makes me think that if traded to or captured by GC he could end up biting us in the bum.

I want to keep him, could well turn out to be an excellent player.

[e25 5]

List however many you want up to 10 then, like Kit did

Remember that means you're prepared to let others go to GC or WS - I'd be amazed if you don't want to protect at least 10.

BTW, the AFL has some secret draft compensation formula for clubs losing uncontracted to GC and WS so we don't lose the player for nothing.

I only read the thread title and assumed it was players we'd never consider even trading.

That'll teach me to not fully read the OP.

And yeah, i know i could list fewer, but I was trying to point out that most people would list 10 for the sake of making up that number...

[Scully The Tank Engine 0]

I'm surprised no one mentions Ricky Petterd! Maybe not top 10 but the way he's been playing and improving in recent weeks makes me think that if traded to or captured by GC he could end up biting us in the bum.

I want to keep him, could well turn out to be an excellent player.

They can have Brad Miller if they want.. But hands off our Rick you bums :angry: .

The kid is starting to put together some quality performances. I like him as a small forward. I know a number of people like him as a HB, but he takes a really good contested mark, and just seems more dangerous across half-forward. Also, his kicking is markedly better in the forward half then it is in the back half at this stage, and....he loves a goal too.

[MadAsHell 4,212]

1. Watts

2. Jurrah

3. Grimes

4. Morton

5. Garland

6. Petterd

7. Maric

8. Davey

9. Frawley

10. Blease

*I'd add Scully and Trengove to the list but we don't actually have them yet.

[titan_uranus 25,014]

1. Watts

2. Jurrah

3. Grimes

4. Garland

5. Blease

6. Davey

7. Frawley

8. Wonaeamirri

9. Petterd

10. Morton

[Guest JACKtheRIPPER]

1. Scully

2. Watts

3. Trengrove

4. Davey

5. Grimes

6. Sylvia

7. Morton

8. Garland

9. Frawley

10. Jurrah

In that order.

I should add that I have Davey so high because I believe he is the glue that binds the brother hood together and if we can keep him a Demon for his career it will go a long way to securing the services of Jurrah, Bennell, Aussie, etc.

thats the best 10 untouchables iv ever seen at the demons,bring on 2010, i cant wait to go down to casey and watch them train over summer.

[Old Gregg 1]

Watts,

Grimes,

Morton,

Frawley,

Sylvia,

Green,

Davey,

Bate,

Garland,

Jurrah.

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

Is there a good reason why no-one has mentioned Petterd until the last couple of posts?

In no particular order: Watts, Morton, Frawley, Garland, Bate, Davey, Grimes, Jurrah, Petterd, McLean.

These are 10 that I think for various reasons wouldn't get enough in return from the AFL. If we lost McLean, for example, we'd probably only get a 2nd round pick. Likewise any of the kids might only net a 2nd ro 3rd rounder and I believe have a lot more improvement yet to come. Davey is a playere who is worth more to us than anything but perhaps a top 3 pick, which the AFL wouldn't grant us.

There are others like Sylvia, who has issues with his body. Gievn how he's played this year I feel like the AFL would compensate us heavily, and it may actually work to our benefit is some ways. That's not to say I want him out...

[Doggo 32]

LOL at the inclusion of Scully and Trengove on some lists. We don't even have them yet!

My 10 untouchables, loosely in order:

1. Watts

2. Grimes

3. Jurrah

4. Morton

5. Garland

6. Frawley

7. Sylvia

8. Davey

9. Moloney

10. Wonaeamirri

Petterd*, Strauss, Blease, Bennell, Jetta, Maric, Cheney are next --> Based on potential alone, the asking price we as a club would set for these players is far above what they're worth in actual market value, based solely on results. Blease and Strauss haven't even played yet, and the rest, bar Petterd, are too early in their careers to make a definitive call on their value. (To be honest, i'm loathed to trade anybody under the age of 21.)

Minus Sylvia, Davey, Moloney and Frawley, the rest of the list are all recently drafted players. As part of our rebuild, it's crucial we hold onto all of this group so they can grow and develop together, ala Geelong and St Kilda's lists. I added the aforementioned senior players, as i believe they'll make up the core of our leadership group for the next 5 years, until Grimes and Watts are ready for that next step up.

'torpedo' made an excellent point about Davey - having him there as the leader of our indigenous kids is vitally important in keeping Wona, Jurrah, Bennell and Jetta all together, each of whom have shown at least glimpses of being excellent players in the future.

* - Pettred is an interesting one. Keep Petterd unless GC offer something we just can't refuse for him (i.e. top 10-15 draft pick). That's probably the main reason i have him just outside my top 10 untouchables. While i believe he's going to be a very good player, he's also likely to command a very good player/draft pick from GC in the upcoming compromised drafts.

[Lil_red_fire_engine 11,173]

11 people do lists and no-names Warnock? WTF........I will pull the old chestnut that no-one is untouchable but within reason list as follows.

1. Grimes

2. Morton

3. Sylvia

4. Frawley

5. Jurrah

6. Warnock

7. Garland

8. Davey

9. Watts

10. TBC (I am assuming one of Strauss or Blease will fill this spot once we see them play in the Red and Blue)

[waynewussell 5,736]

Haven't posted for a while but I like this one.

1 Davey

2 Jurrah

3 Morton

4 Grimes

5 Green

6 Martin

7 Watts

8 Sylvia

9 Petterd

10 Garland

[jackie_moon 0]

11 people do lists and no-names Warnock? WTF........I will pull the old chestnut that no-one is untouchable but within reason list as follows.

1. Grimes

2. Morton

3. Sylvia

4. Frawley

5. Jurrah

6. Warnock

7. Garland

8. Davey

9. Watts

10. TBC (I am assuming one of Strauss or Blease will fill this spot once we see them play in the Red and Blue)

was thinking the exact same thing. warnock is seriously underrated. gets a fist into everything. he's our best backman by far

[#MYHEARTBEATSTRUE 27]

1. J. Watts

2. J. Grimes

3. C.Garland

4. C.Slyvia

5. L.Jurrah

6. A. Marric

7. C.Morton

8. A.Davey

9. M.Warnock

10. B.mclean

Edited August 12, 2009 by WattsHappening?