This is to place to speculate, extrapolate, read the tea leaves and explore your worst fears. 

Have fun. 

We have this thread 

thank you.  I'll revisit this thread later this year.

It would be great if he made a statement like Viney and sign early but he still has some way to go until the end of next year.

If he leaves then I'd say that his ability to think is worse than his goal kicking run up.

I find Lapsang Souchong tea leaves in a translucent  eggshell porcelain tea cup best for tea leaf reading.  The pungent smoky aroma  goes hand in hand with  all the smoke and mirrors of trade talk.

Edited May 13, 20169 yr by america de cali

No interest until it's confirmed his signed or isn't going to.

You could go mad worrying about this otherwise. Scully, Rivers, Frawley, Howe have all taught me not to worry. So far we've ended up better off in the end.

Hogan might be irreplaceable but I have confidence PJ and Mahoney won't stuff the Club by paying overs and if he walks it will be for an offer too good to refuse and too overs to match. I shudder to think we apparently offered Scully $700,000 a year to stay all those years ago. He left, we saved the money and got Hogan. I was happy in the end, not at the beginning.

If he stays which I expect, fantastic! If he goes I'll look forward to the trade. 2 guns for one.

Reckon we'll be fine here, but it doesn't seem to be about our improvement anymore. We've clearly shown improvement, so it's simply down to Jesse now.

34 minutes ago, america de cali said:

I find Lapsang Souchong tea leaves in a translucent  eggshell porcelain tea cup best for tea leaf reading.  The pungent smoky aroma  goes hand in hand with  all the smoke and mirrors of trade talk.

i'll stick to chicken entrails, thankyou

Just listening to the Herald Sun trade podcast with Jay Clark, Sam Landsberger and Gilbert Gardiner. Clark, who has written a number of Hogan articles this week, and who I actually think is one of the more reliable HS journos says he thinks from his information now that he is "98% sure" that Hogan signs a new deal with Melbourne.

Obviously not saying it's gospel, just that it's a different narrative than when every single media outlet reported that Scully was a goner from months out. Worth a listen from the 5.25 mark...

 

And the Hawks swoop out of nowhere. 

Frawley, fitzy, Rioli, Roughhead, hogan...goal!!!!

sorry! Living out a nightmare i had last night. Sorry all. 

Damn you Clarkson.

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Fyfe is out of contract at the end of 2017. Fyfe for Hogan anyone? Imagine our midfield: Viney, Fyfe, Petracca, Prestia, Brayshaw, VDB, Oliver, Jones, Vince, Salem, ANB, Tyson etc....

 

http://www.sen.com.au/news/afl/05-16/dees-should-lure-fyfe-if-hogan-goes-west-leach#8kvZOy2DS3WWtxPY.97

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Is erryone forgetting he's contracted till end of next year??

16 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

i'll stick to chicken entrails, thankyou

Carefull you don't get salmonella handling chicken entrails..

Edited May 13, 20169 yr by america de cali

4 minutes ago, JackoTheMuss said:

Is erryone forgetting he's contracted till end of next year??

Nobodys forgetting that Jacko, but you'd think something will happen this year.

Either he signs a new deal in the off-season or tells the club he wants to go home. If he wants to go home it's in our best interests to trade him at the end of this season, when freo will be able to start their offer with a top 5 pick than next when they'll probably have moved up the ladder.

Commence the austromancy! And the spatilomancy!

If this gets any worse, it'll become geloscopy.

Let's do it in diagrams -

 

Hogan's expectations -------------> contract! <-------------- Club's expectations

 

If you have information to provide about either of these factors, talk on!

Otherwise. Shh.

 

15 minutes ago, Members' Wing said:

Just listening to the Herald Sun trade podcast with Jay Clark, Sam Landsberger and Gilbert Gardiner. Clark, who has written a number of Hogan articles this week, and who I actually think is one of the more reliable HS journos says he thinks from his information now that he is "98% sure" that Hogan signs a new deal with Melbourne.

Obviously not saying it's gospel, just that it's a different narrative than when every single media outlet reported that Scully was a goner from months out. Worth a listen from the 5.25 mark...

 

While I like the optimism from Clark I don't get how you can put a percentage on knowing a player is staying. You either know he's staying or leaving or you don't know.

Just now, Ethan Tremblay said:

While I like the optimism from Clark I don't get how you can put a percentage on knowing a player is staying. You either know he's staying or leaving or you don't know.

the quality and quantity of his source(s) could be a factor. not saying they are, but he might think(generous) so 

4 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

While I like the optimism from Clark I don't get how you can put a percentage on knowing a player is staying. You either know he's staying or leaving or you don't know.

Wasn't the Ox 98% sure about Scully?

I like the name of this thread. It will surely be a panic by us if he doesn't re-sign by year's end.

With no off field player issues, no crap club management to complain about, no crap recruiting to lament, no tanking dramas or [censored] tribunal decisions,  Demonland is in the midst of self imposed hysteria over a player who has a season and a half to play before he can walk out.

I understand why everyone is worried/ interested, but still makes me chuckle a little.

It would be a massive setback should he leave, but for once the team looks like we don’t rely on just a handful of players. Plus,  If he was to leave or request a trade we’d be holding a handful of aces to get pretty much whatever we wanted from an opposition club!

‘I believe in Tom Jesse’

1 minute ago, Moonshadow said:

I like the name of this thread. It will surely be a panic by us if he doesn't re-sign by year's end.

Should Hogan be made to take some responsibility for inducing panic?

Edited May 13, 20169 yr by america de cali

9 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

While I like the optimism from Clark I don't get how you can put a percentage on knowing a player is staying. You either know he's staying or leaving or you don't know.

Course you can. From all his sources the information he's got is that Jesse will stay, but he's covering himself with the 2% being if something unforeseen happens - Dees lose every game for the rest of the season, Jesse finds himself a girl from Perth etc.

The only people making any suggestions that he's going back to Perth are.... from Perth.  Of course they'll take that narrative, it sells.

Still no doubt in my mind he'll stay.

4 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

The only people making any suggestions that he's going back to Perth are.... from Perth.  Of course they'll take that narrative, it sells.

Still no doubt in my mind he'll stay.

Agree with that first paragraph Wise.

Wish I could share the unequivocalness  of your belief in your second, but do think and hope he's likely to.

Just now, Members' Wing said:

Agree with that first paragraph Wise.

Wish I could share the unequivocalness  of your belief in your second, but do think and hope he's likely to.

I understand that.  Everyone approaches it differently and there is nothing wrong with that.  

What does annoy me is when supporters over analyse everything and turn anything reported on in to a negative.  In the age of social media, news reports everywhere etc. it's easy to read too much into things.  I trust the club, and Jesse, to get things done and bring sustained success for years to come.