What can we do to get pick 2?

[Demon trucker 1,778]

the dees only won 5 games last year if we win less then three games we get pick 1 and pick 3 just like carlton did last year because we won less then 8 games over two years last and this year counts for less then 8 wins over two years

[titan_uranus 22,725]

the dees only won 5 games last year if we win less then three games we get pick 1 and pick 3 just like carlton did last year because we won less then 8 games over two years last and this year counts for less then 8 wins over two years

No that's not quite right - you need to win less than 5 games for two consecutive years, not win 8 or less over the two years.

[dee-luded 2,958]

the dees only won 5 games last year if we win less then three games we get pick 1 and pick 3 just like carlton did last year because we won less then 8 games over two years last and this year counts for less then 8 wins over two years

No Vince thats wrong.

We mucked up last year & blew any priority pick chances by winning too many games in '07.

If we win NOT MORE THAN 4 GAMES this year, then we will get a priority pick following the completion of RND1, '08 Draft...

[Bobby McKenzie 2,194]

No Vince thats wrong.

We mucked up last year & blew any priority pick chances by winning too many games in '07.

If we win NOT MORE THAN 4 GAMES this year, then we will get a priority pick following the completion of RND1, '08 Draft...

Thanks guys. I'm still confused with conflicting answers. Maybe I should contact the AFL. Do you think THEY would know?

[Freak 100]

its 4 and a half wins or less, 2 seasons in a row that gets you the priority pick at the start of the first round.

[Bobby McKenzie 2,194]

its 4 and a half wins or less, 2 seasons in a row that gets you the priority pick at the start of the first round.

Thanks mate for that.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

its 4 and a half wins or less, 2 seasons in a row that gets you the priority pick at the start of the first round.

No Freak. Wrong again. As previously pointed out to you

Its 16.5 points or less not 4.5 wins (18 points).

You will need 4 wins or less.

[45HG 1,539]

If it was 4.5, melbourne and carlton would've just played a draw and enjoyed the spoils. Definitiely 4 or less two years in a row

[Freak 100]

Yze Magic, i think you need to up your medication. Admittedly, I post some pretty outlandish stuff, but to trade Cale Morton and our draft pick is ridiculous. Cale Morton was a very high draft pick and hasn't filled out yet. And Daniel Rich(likely pick number 2) seems like a good player, but I know you've never seen him play and are purely going by the hype on him posted by others. Also to think that a team is going to trade a pick 2 highlights your stupidity and your amateur views on the game of football. I almost prefer brad miller over you.

[Jarka 767]

Does the system whereby the first 5 picks go to the new teams come into effect in the 2009 draft or 2010?

My interpretation of the article was that it will happen in 2010. In 2008 & 2009 they will have first access to the Queensland and NSW kids only, they can stockpile a group and play them in the local competition. So when 2011 comes around they should have a nucleus of a decent team but they'll all be around 19 & 20.

The idea is to give both teams the opportunity to trade away early picks in the 2010 draft for established AFL players, which is a pretty fair way of creating a team. They'll also have the first group of picks in the psd.

[Freak 100]

Rhino Richards,

"Under the current priority pick system, a team only receives a pick before round one of the draft if they have less than 4.5 wins in a season for two-straight years"

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl...3-19742,00.html

[Kit Walker 207]

"Under the current priority pick system, a team only receives a pick before round one of the draft if they have less than 4.5 wins in a season for two-straight years"

Sorry mate - "Less than" is different to "not more than".

Less than 4.5 wins means less than 18 points. 4 wins and a draw equals 18 points.

That's how I read it anyway.

[Jarka 767]

Sorry mate - "Less than" is different to "not more than".

Less than 4.5 wins means less than 18 points. 4 wins and a draw equals 18 points.

That's how I read it anyway.

Yeah, I agree.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Rhino Richards,

"Under the current priority pick system, a team only receives a pick before round one of the draft if they have less than 4.5 wins in a season for two-straight years"

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl...3-19742,00.html

Kit and Jarka are right. 4.5 wins leaves you short of the PP.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,2...3-23211,00.html

If the Blues lose on Sunday, they will get the No.1 draft pick under the system which allows clubs with 16 premiership points or less in consecutive seasons first bite at the nation's best young talent.

http://www.abc.net.au/sport/content/200511/s1509486.htm

if a team finishes with four or fewer wins for two consecutive years, it will gain a pick at the start of the draft as is the case under the current system.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priority_draft_pick

If a team finished with fewer than 16.5 premiership points in two consecutive seasons, then their Priority Selection is taken before the First Round.

[Freak 100]

your 3 sources just contradicted each other. wikipedia just stated 16.5 wins, which is wrong, 4 wins= 16points not 16.5 as states in ur last source. Hopefully it is 4 and i'm wrong because that increases our chances of getting either rich or naitanui.

[dee-luded 2,958]

I want Natanui and Rich.

One is not enough.

We have pick 1 sewn up, so how do we get pick 2 so we can secure both of these absolute freaks?

We will gain a priority pick at the end of Round 1 (pick 17).

Pick 2 is so far out of the question it's not worth discussing.

But 'Yze_Magic', how can we trade for two picks in the 10 - 20 range?, can you put your DEES thinking cap on & come up with a solution?

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

your 3 sources just contradicted each other. wikipedia just stated 16.5 wins, which is wrong, 4 wins= 16points not 16.5 as states in ur last source. Hopefully it is 4 and i'm wrong because that increases our chances of getting either rich or naitanui.

Bing! Wrong again. Its a bad day Freak.

I like the wikpedia summary because I thought until now it removes any ambiguity or confusion on the situation.

Each article refers to same premise that you need 4 wins or less for 2 consecutuve years to get a 1st round PP.

I agree with your last sentence.

[Nasher 33,162]

wikipedia just stated 16.5 wins

How many games to do you have to win to score less than 16.5 points? (Hint: It's not possible to score exactly 16.5 points)

The whole point of making it "fewer than 16.5" is because you can't land exactly on 16.5. You can get 4 wins (16 points, less than 16.5, therefore you qualify), or 4 wins and a draw (18 points, greater than 16.5, therefore you do not qualify).

[Jarka 767]

How many games to do you have to win to score less than 16.5 points? (Hint: It's not possible to score exactly 16.5 points)

The whole point of making it "fewer than 16.5" is because you can't land exactly on 16.5. You can get 4 wins (16 points, less than 16.5, therefore you qualify), or 4 wins and a draw (18 points, greater than 16.5, therefore you do not qualify).

Agreed Nash, perhaps the wording 'not more than 4 wins' would be less ambiguous?

[dee-luded 2,958]

Agreed Nash, perhaps the wording 'not more than 4 wins' would be less ambiguous?

Or not more than 16 points, 2 wins & 4 draws...

[Jarka 767]

Or not more than 16 points, 2 wins & 4 draws...

I see your point

[Nasher 33,162]

Agreed Nash, perhaps the wording 'not more than 4 wins' would be less ambiguous?

I reckon some people would be confused either way.

[Damo 3,015]

I reckon some people would be confused either way.

Very diplomatic...