can we beat Carlton

[Melb_2009 0]

and also its gonna be the first time collingwood are gonna beat us since 2003 on Queens Birthday.

[praha 11,124]

If we dont beat Carlton next sunday arvo then you can all say goodbye to season 2008 because the next games we have after the blues are

Round 6- Brisbane GABBA

Round 7- fremantle MCG

Round 8 - Adelaide AAMI

Round 9- Hawthorn MCG

wow..Hawthorn again? Gold help us.

[neitaaa 0]

any 1 watching the carlton vs colligwood game

bails, connoly, mark williams nd some other guy r at the gamewith brock, jones and i think bruce green and morton.

but i have never seen any 1 wear clothes like connoly, he is deff a weird 1 with character ndthe best hat i have eva seem @ the footy lol

[Jaded No More 67,771]

any 1 watching the carlton vs colligwood game

bails, connoly, mark williams nd some other guy r at the gamewith brock, jones and i think bruce green and morton.

but i have never seen any 1 wear clothes like connoly, he is deff a weird 1 with character ndthe best hat i have eva seem @ the footy lol

Never seen a team take a group of players to watch the opposition play.

Very interesting.

Should have taken Rivers, he has to stop Fevola from kicking another bag next week.

Carlton are 4 wins away from giving us a priority pick... bring it!

[beelzebub 23,200]

Carlton are 4 wins away from giving us a priority pick... bring it!

They'll only be 3 wins after next sunday..

aye.... Its gunna be a looonnnnnnggggg colddddddddddd winterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr !!!

[MrMoose 262]

I originally voted yes, but after watching Carlton thrash Collingfilth - I want to change my answer -

Moose

[Mono 455]

I originally voted yes, but after watching Carlton thrash Collingfilth - I want to change my answer -

Moose

Don't be so quick. Collingwood regularly play above their skill level. They do awfully well, considering the talent they don't have. So when they are not at the top of their game, they get beaten - remember us beating them easily last year.

Having said that, today will do lots for Carlton's confidence. :angry:

[Chook 14,998]

Collingwood regularly play above their skill level.

Then couldn't one also say that they only sometimes play below their skill level? Aren't you more likely to play at or below your skill level than above it?

[Mono 455]

Then couldn't one also say that they only sometimes play below their skill level? Aren't you more likely to play at or below your skill level than above it?

OK I'll try again.

As a team, they are much better than the sum of the individuals. But they must all be at the top of their game to win. they manage it more than most. rather like us in '05 in fact

[CARN THE DEES! 14]

For those that say we CANT beat Carlton are fools, you've already accepted failure and you disguist me!

[QueenC 74]

i would rather we play with dignity and actually try to win before its all too late and weve forgotten how to win

what im trying to say is that i desperately hope we can win this one...i really do...for dignity's sake

Amen to that sentiment Nugget.....

Could we win? Yes I think we probably could, but the question is not if we could but if we actually can.

Our skills, attitude and confidence are currently non-existent and after a pretty good win today against the Filth, Carlton will have their tails up to get two in a row and probably regard next week as potentially the easiest win they will get all season, which considering who they are is an arrogant but not out there assumption.

[Zinko 0]

^ Carlton has broken their losing culture and this is a big worry; thier arrogance and over-confidence is our only hope. We can win, but only if Carlton trip themselves up on their own egotism. If they manage to hold themselves together, I have grave doubts.

Wow, I think it's quite worrying that 65% of voters think we can not beat carlton.

[beelzebub 23,200]

For those that say we CANT beat Carlton are fools, you've already accepted failure and you disguist me!

I cant speak for anyone else...so I'll just do it for me.

In theory we can beat anyone.. the ground may open up and swallow the oppostion or the Demons might grow some skills and competitiveness overnight..either works for me .. dont really care.

I dont accept failure; not for anything. It's grossly unpalatable and not part of my personal creed. What I HAVE come to accept is reality. I work within realities and attempt to expand them to meet my dreams.

If I want to learn to swim the channel I must first acept that water is wet, it is formidable and will sap my very being's worth of strength lest I prepare for it. I can only prepare for it if I acknowledge what Im dealing with.

So I'll tell you what I accept about Melbourne; and by accept I would have you understand that these are truths I can not change, not for the present. I accept we have a very ordinary list at present . It consists of some aging champions of the club. It consists of some players who are/were never what they claimed to be. It consists of some players who seems devoid of the very basics in skillsets that would have any outsider to consider them as footballers at any level let alone elite. It consists of thieves in dsguise. You may recognise them from time to time steathally parading the sporting fortresses of this city.

I also accept we have resources that curently put us behind the 8 ball. I accept that the Mighty Demons will probably for many years have a smaller following than many a club for this is historically so and until such times as the club's fortunes and attractiveness to growing generations increases this will be our lot.

I also accept that the winds of change are indeed collecting abou tthe club. 'Tis only a breeze at the moment but all indications are we should prepare for some stormy weather, clearing before a fine change !!

These and others I accept. How can I not ..for only a fool doesnt recognise their environment before attempting change.

We have played 4 games..and probably only really 'contested about 6 quarters..and won only 1 !! I accept that. How can you not.

I probably wouldnt accept that this is the desire or intent of the MFc.

That we will probably in all reality lose next week to Carlton I reluctantly accept. But do I accept failure. No....Never.

So please dont acuse me of that.. <_<

[Yze_Magic 3]

It saddens me to think already just how bad Chris Judda$ will carve us up

[jacey 333]

So please dont acuse me of that.. <_<

Carlton has being our nemisis for the last few years.

In '06 we lost twice to miss out on a top 4 spot.

In '04 or '05 we lost to Carlton late in the season to miss out on a top 4 spot.

In '07, we beat Carlton twice to miss out on a late priority pick and a chance to have an early priority pick this year.

God i hate Carlton (or is my anger misdirected and i'm really [censored] off with my own club?).

[Ballarat Demon 0]

good to see everyone is positive

[Swampfox 190]

Well I expect us to beat the blues and quite well

what will determine the result is how long we can apply midfield pressure

shutting down their midfield will automatically put pressure on their defence and we have enough marking and goalkiicking power to win

when you put pressure on a team with a poor lists they turn the ball over just like we have done for 4 weeks

we did frighten the cats in the 1st and 3rd quarters so please dont think it cannot be done against carlton

Demons by 32 points

Swampfox

[CARN THE DEES! 14]

Well I expect us to beat the blues and quite well

what will determine the result is how long we can apply midfield pressure

shutting down their midfield will automatically put pressure on their defence and we have enough marking and goalkiicking power to win

when you put pressure on a team with a poor lists they turn the ball over just like we have done for 4 weeks

we did frighten the cats in the 1st and 3rd quarters so please dont think it cannot be done against carlton

Demons by 32 points

Swampfox

I like you!!