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Sadly, the way the system works, it is best to come last if you can't come first.

I rather finish last (not that this is any sort of guarantee that we'll get the first pick) than come 9th, but it is far too early to be thinking about this sort of thing. If we are good enough to win 9-10 games this year than there are probably more deserving teams out there who could use a number one pick (except Carlton, they can rot in hell :angry: ). However if it cames to the last few rounds and we were battling for bottom spot, I would prefer for us to 'manage our list' wisely and not try too hard to win.

In round 3 however, the focus is firmly on finals, even if we are 0-3 at the moment.

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Forget Natanui. Carlton and Richmond are rancid effluent and will be lucky to win 5 games between them. I'd rather see us play well in our 150th year than hope for a wooden spoon and a kid that we have very little chance of acquiring.

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A top 3 pick should produce a very good player this coming draft. Rich, Hurley for example.

This is a season that DB can afford to be poor. It is his first year and a couple of good picks at the end of this year should hopefully set us up going forward. Given this and a few games under young players belts this year and we sgould be on the road to a better 2009.

CC said if this season was dead after round 6 then they would assess the list going forward and platy young players.

We do not have any guns but Morton could be one. Lets hope we can pick up another one or two like him.

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it doesn't really bother me if we get pick1 pick 2 or pick 3 (we will get one of these!).

Pick1- we get the best athlete/ruckman available- Naitanui- also gain a cult-figure that will create excitement in the club

pick2- Daniel Rich- best midfielder in the draft- better than Cotchin and equal of Cooney or any other number1 draft picks of the past

pick3- Hurley- Best KPP of the draft

we could use all 3.

The main reason why we could really love Naitanui is that we are in dire need of a replacement ruckman for White.

It'd be awesome to get a future ruckman star, because otherwise we'll have to use a few draft picks on potential ruckman who might not make it

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it doesn't really bother me if we get pick1 pick 2 or pick 3 (we will get one of these!).

Pick1- we get the best athlete/ruckman available- Naitanui- also gain a cult-figure that will create excitement in the club

pick2- Daniel Rich- best midfielder in the draft- better than Cotchin and equal of Cooney or any other number1 draft picks of the past

pick3- Hurley- Best KPP of the draft

we could use all 3.

The main reason why we could really love Naitanui is that we are in dire need of a replacement ruckman for White.

It'd be awesome to get a future ruckman star, because otherwise we'll have to use a few draft picks on potential ruckman who might not make it

Pick1- Naitanui- gain a cult-figure that will create excitement in the club. Will be grabbed by Richmond if they get the chance.

pick2- Daniel Rich- best midfielder in the draft- better than Cotchin and equal of Cooney or any other number1 draft picks of the past

pick3- Hurley- Best KPP of the draft ----- Will be snapped up by Carlton if they have the first pick.

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Yeah a top 3 pick seems a certainty. Either of those will help. Will be handy if we can get trade another player this year for a pick in the top 20, tho on current form there wouldnt be any worth it.

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The main reason why we could really love Naitanui is that we are in dire need of a replacement ruckman for White.

It'd be awesome to get a future ruckman star, because otherwise we'll have to use a few draft picks on potential ruckman who might not make it

Fwiw, I had a look at teach team's 'best 22' AFL rucks a couple of seasons back, and not many were high draft picks - in fact, plenty came from the rookie list.

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Some many factors to consider, firstly, good chance Carlton and Richmond wont win 5 games this year so if that happens pick 1 and 2 to them, we may finish last but that mean pick 3 and 20 because if we finish last we will win less than 5 matches. However we have 19 rounds to go and a lot can change we could get on a streak.

IMO though forget the ruckman get KPP we have not one key forward coming through, Newton is more of a flank FP than a key forward.


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What a pathetic thread and what a bunch of losers you guys are.

It's three rounds into the season and, yes, we've been ordinary for most of them but we have played the big three and the players are adapting to a new coach and a new ball game. We're starting to show improvement and if we can get the right combination going and the players click together this week, you never know what could happen.

I'm not suggesting a flag but it's dangerous these days to rely on early draft picks alone to develop your club.

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Good mates with Cale also.

Would love those two to be the faces of our club for the future.

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Can't imagine too many elite young players wanting to sit out of the game for 3 years.

You don't get a choice in the draft.

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I may be reading it wrong.. but I got the impression the drafted players wouldnt be sitting out.. but be playing with the new franchise team in an "other" comp as they got up to speed.

Still playing footy...just not AFL yet

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I may be reading it wrong.. but I got the impression the drafted players wouldnt be sitting out.. but be playing with the new franchise team in an "other" comp as they got up to speed.

Still playing footy...just not AFL yet

Hardly great for those draftees - particularly the better players - which I imagine is the point.

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you surly havent seen the kid play! I would do anything to get him to Melbourne.

Then find a way for the Tiges and Blues to each win 5 games or we are no chance no matter where we finish.

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Hardly great for those draftees - particularly the better players - which I imagine is the point.

Oh..please I agree.. certainly drawing a short straw isnt it !!

but then again is it a lot differnt for the many ( not the elite that would walk in to a game early in first season) playing in say the VFL down here..or SANFL etc... I acknowledge not quite on par.. but its similar effect.

I do agree 100% that its the 3 years that would be somewhat heartbreaking for an aspiring player

All things aside I thik they sould only come to the draft table one year out..not three


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Hardly great for those draftees - particularly the better players - which I imagine is the point.

In the little paper Vlad was quoted as saying that the new franchises may even get priority access to the top 15 - 16 year old talent.

Interesting idea...if that means they don't get priority on the 17-18 year old's it would partially solve the problem of the bottom clubs getting screwed over during the next two drafts and means that fewer talented 17-18 year olds would be left cooling their heels unecessarily for a 2-3 year gap.

Good luck to the poor bugger who has to identify the best talent in the land when their 15-16 :huh: I guess not too many KPP punts would get made

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I certainly hope Vlad the Demitrifool has taken more care with the treatment of this area ( 17th and 18th teams ) than he did with even the notion of entering the GC without first firming up a ground..or the legalities surounding it !! lol

He's like a kid with a toy isnt he !! and as much periferal vision as one too

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You don't get a choice in the draft.

They can seek a trade after the first year though, one year is all they have to sit out for.

But it won't happen

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They can seek a trade after the first year though, one year is all they have to sit out for.

But it won't happen

Would you still say that if your son was drafted by Collingwood ?

Shouldn't even think about it...the thought sends shivers down my spine :o

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Can't imagine too many elite young players wanting to sit out of the game for 3 years.

Nathan Ablett? Gary Ablett snr?

Guy at my club walked out of Eastern Ranges to play Premier Cricket for Ringwood a few years back

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Nathan Ablett? Gary Ablett snr?

Guy at my club walked out of Eastern Ranges to play Premier Cricket for Ringwood a few years back

Way to miss the point :rolleyes:

and besides Nathan Ablett was never an elite young player.

Is it possible for you to make post without name dropping Eastern Ranges or Trent Zomer?

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I played heaps of footy at a very high level, all you need from your ruckman is to make a contest, your ruckman can win as many taps that he wants but if your midfield can't read the tap and the opposition does they will win the footy. Give me a KPP over a ruckman anyday, ruckman aren't match winners give me a good CHF or FF over a ruckman anyday. Name one first round pick ruckman that is a superstar.

I'm on tyhe same page as you 'doc', but my take is that both positions are important.

However we are adequately competative ATM in the ruck division, but struggling in the key posts front & back.

Give me either a gun Key posi' player or a gun Quick mid clearance player as our first pick & then I'll shut up. Then I'd like more hard assed mongrel players thanks, 'Doc'.

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