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The problem with most players in the PSD is that they are all stop gap solutions, Perrie might have a couple good games but we dont want him, why... because we already have a stop gap tall who has handy hands, but is slow, and is not a real good kick. Ben Holland.

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fergus watts could be handy, he was pick 14 in 2004, just turned 22.

broke his leg early in '06 and not sure about this year, but think he was injured again.

Other than that, not much to look at, possibly pfieffer, dont know too much about him though

I will spew if we get kepler bradley

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fergus watts could be handy, he was pick 14 in 2004, just turned 22.

broke his leg early in '06 and not sure about this year, but think he was injured again.

Other than that, not much to look at, possibly pfieffer, dont know too much about him though

I will spew if we get kepler bradley

I've heard that Watts is a bit in love with himself, which is odd, given how [censored]-poor his career has been to date. Anyone know more about this?

I will also be upset if we get Bradley. My Essendon supporter mates instinctively cover their eyes every time he gets near the ball.

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I've heard that Watts is a bit in love with himself, which is odd, given how [censored]-poor his career has been to date. Anyone know more about this?

I will also be upset if we get Bradley. My Essendon supporter mates instinctively cover their eyes every time he gets near the ball.

ive seen a bit of it first hand in public...nothing too bad, but he was a little arrogant..i presume a lot of young players are like this though

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Bradley, Sampi, Whitnall all a big NO from me.

X. Clarke we could look at. Improve our run out of defence and would be a good player for us, but has a bad injury record. If we can look past the injuries I would be delighted with him.

Otherwise I think we should take the risk on Fergus Watts. Lots of potential and could shine for us in our under-sized forward line. We need to be prepared to take risks.

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I've heard that Watts is a bit in love with himself, which is odd, given how [censored]-poor his career has been to date. Anyone know more about this?

I will also be upset if we get Bradley. My Essendon supporter mates instinctively cover their eyes every time he gets near the ball.

Kepler Bradley and Mark Johnson have apparently being delisted.

While i'm not a fan, i'll have a look at him. Not fussed either way.

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I'm a fan of Mark Johnson, but he's too old.

Apperantly Bradley really wants to return home to WA. If that's true, I wouldn't bother with him.

Mind you, if we get him for nothing and trade him next year for a pick, that would be ok ;)


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X Clarke in number 1 for me. We lack pace, and his career to date has been shot due to injury. If he can stay fit, and get the footy he will be great for us.

No On Big Lance, as for Fergus Watts, he is a poor mans L. Dunn!

Kepler Bradley is interesting, he is half The incredible Hulk, and Half Gumby! One game you get more of Hulk, another game you get more gumby.

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Probably already been reported but Mark Johnson has been delisted by Essendon I don't much about him but premirship player and critchon medalist but is also 29

Gee, let's ask if every over the hill, injury prone de-listed player is "worth a punt".

Delisted is synonymous with rejected by another club. Why would we want any of them?

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Gee, let's ask if every over the hill, injury prone de-listed player is "worth a punt".

Delisted is synonymous with rejected by another club. Why would we want any of them?

As i said i dont know much about him and was wondering what other peoples opinons was so obvisously yours is no and i also expected that he wouldnt be any good but you still have 2 look at all options otherwise theres no point

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Delisted is synonymous with rejected by another club. Why would we want any of them?

That's what Port said about Rodan...

Why do people here have such a problem with other people merely mentioning players who have been delisted?

Last time I checked this was a discussion board, where people discuss things.

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X Clarke in number 1 for me. We lack pace, and his career to date has been shot due to injury. If he can stay fit, and get the footy he will be great for us.

No On Big Lance, as for Fergus Watts, he is a poor mans L. Dunn!

Kepler Bradley is interesting, he is half The incredible Hulk, and Half Gumby! One game you get more of Hulk, another game you get more gumby.

:lol: LMFAO :lol: Funniest thing of read here in a while

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That's what Port said about Rodan...

Why do people here have such a problem with other people merely mentioning players who have been delisted?

Last time I checked this was a discussion board, where people discuss things.

Rodan is one exception. But ... he did for Port Adelaide in the Grand Final what he did at Richmond all the time he was there ... basically his skills wilted under pressure.

I have no problem discussing delisted players, provided we're a bit judicious about who we discuss. But every year people on this board dredge up delisted players (either they're second-rate, have serious issues, are washed up or are chronically injured) and seriously ask if they're worth anything, almost as if by ritual immediately after trade week. It's like the first cuckoo of Spring. This year it's Whitnall, Johnson and Sampi. Last year's cuckoos were the Clokes and Kent Kingsley. History shows all would have been a huge waste of list space.

When our club's stated "forward-looking" objective is to concentrate on developing young players, and we still have one or two too many players at the "aged" end of our list, I can't understand why posters here would even bother contemplating any over-the-hill aging players.

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When our club's stated "forward-looking" objective is to concentrate on developing young players, and we still have one or two too many players at the "aged" end of our list, I can't understand why posters here would even bother contemplating any over-the-hill aging players.

very good point. if someone wants to bring up player a and say 'hey i think they might offer this, and we need that' and make discussion thats fine. but just to go 'player b has been delisted, should we get him' when the player is a dud, and we are building around a core of quality under 23s is a post that wasn't worth posting...

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very good point. if someone wants to bring up player a and say 'hey i think they might offer this, and we need that' and make discussion thats fine. but just to go 'player b has been delisted, should we get him' when the player is a dud, and we are building around a core of quality under 23s is a post that wasn't worth posting...

Just to refresh memories, here is the list of delistings from 2006.

Adelaide: Ben Hart, Hayden Skipworth, Chad Gibson, Alan Obst

Brisbane: Clark Keating, Jayden Attard

Carlton: Cory McGrath, Troy Longmuir, Trent Sporn, Callum Chambers, Justin Davies, Ian Prendergast, Luke Livingston

Collingwood: Cameron Cloke, Jason Cloke, David Fanning, Adam Iacobucci, Julian Rowe, Brent Hall

Essendon: Tristan Cartledge, Joel Reynolds, Adam Ramanuskas, Austin Lucy

Fremantle: Daniel Haines, Michael Warren, Benet Copping

Geelong: Kent Kingsley, Matthew McCarthy, Paul Koulouriotis

Hawthorn: Josh Thurgood, Harry Miller, Luke Brennan, Nick Ries, Matthew Ball

Kangaroos: Troy Makepeace, Chad Jones, Cameron Thurley, Mark Powell

Melbourne: Shannon Motlop, Phillip Read, Nick Smith

Port Adelaide: Matthew Bishop, James Ezard, Aaron Shattock, Peter Walsh, Elijah Ware, Ben Eckermann

Richmond: Andrew Kellaway, Thomas Roach, David Rodan, Dean Limbach

St Kilda: Cain Ackland, Mark McGough, Matthew Ferguson, Allan Murray

Sydney: David Spriggs, Andrew Erickson, Earl Shaw, Matthew Davis, Josh Willoughby

West Coast: Travis Gaspar, Damien Adkins, Brad Smith

Western Bulldogs: Brad Murphy, Adam Morgan, Keiren McGuinness, Jesse Wells

How many of those, with the exception of Rodan (and Ramanuskas who was rookie listed due to health), were worth anything, or even did anything at a new club? Delisted players are dead men walking.


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its horses for course in the PSD, if a player is available that might fill a hole then it should be looked at. But Maurie's list proves a good point. Although this year might see some more quality.

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its horses for course in the PSD, if a player is available that might fill a hole then it should be looked at. But Maurie's list proves a good point. Although this year might see some more quality.

Probably not from the delistings. Just remember that all the other club's delistings are their Godfreys, Wards, Fergusons and Nevilles.

If one thing impresses me though, it's everyone's faith in eternal hope ... hope that a player will turn it around at a new club after years on a list, hope that a new coach will get the best out of a player and make them something they weren't before, hope that a different position might suit a player better, hope that improved fitness will see a player blossom where he couldn't before.

Unfortunately it's like working over an abandoned gold mine. There might be a few specks, but most is the same old mullock. :)

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Rodan is one exception. But ... he did for Port Adelaide in the Grand Final what he did at Richmond all the time he was there ... basically his skills wilted under pressure.

I have no problem discussing delisted players, provided we're a bit judicious about who we discuss. But every year people on this board dredge up delisted players (either they're second-rate, have serious issues, are washed up or are chronically injured) and seriously ask if they're worth anything, almost as if by ritual immediately after trade week. It's like the first cuckoo of Spring. This year it's Whitnall, Johnson and Sampi. Last year's cuckoos were the Clokes and Kent Kingsley. History shows all would have been a huge waste of list space.

When our club's stated "forward-looking" objective is to concentrate on developing young players, and we still have one or two too many players at the "aged" end of our list, I can't understand why posters here would even bother contemplating any over-the-hill aging players.

Exactly Maurie.

Good work on the stats too.

Also if DB seems focussed on addressing culture at the Club earler in his reign why in hell would he punt on the spasmodic and flaky Brennan?

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Yeah, im not sure brennan is the answer, didnt we just get rid of a player who has potential dripping from him yet remained a constant source of frustration..

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Yeah, im not sure brennan is the answer, didnt we just get rid of a player who has potential dripping from him yet remained a constant source of frustration..

Also, his asking price of $1m over 3 years puts pressure on the salary cap, and would be used as a base by player managers when negotiating other players contracts.

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Just to refresh memories, here is the list of delistings from 2006.

Adelaide: Ben Hart, Hayden Skipworth, Chad Gibson, Alan Obst

Brisbane: Clark Keating, Jayden Attard

Carlton: Cory McGrath, Troy Longmuir, Trent Sporn, Callum Chambers, Justin Davies, Ian Prendergast, Luke Livingston

Collingwood: Cameron Cloke, Jason Cloke, David Fanning, Adam Iacobucci, Julian Rowe, Brent Hall

Essendon: Tristan Cartledge, Joel Reynolds, Adam Ramanuskas, Austin Lucy

Fremantle: Daniel Haines, Michael Warren, Benet Copping

Geelong: Kent Kingsley, Matthew McCarthy, Paul Koulouriotis

Hawthorn: Josh Thurgood, Harry Miller, Luke Brennan, Nick Ries, Matthew Ball

Kangaroos: Troy Makepeace, Chad Jones, Cameron Thurley, Mark Powell

Melbourne: Shannon Motlop, Phillip Read, Nick Smith

Port Adelaide: Matthew Bishop, James Ezard, Aaron Shattock, Peter Walsh, Elijah Ware, Ben Eckermann

Richmond: Andrew Kellaway, Thomas Roach, David Rodan, Dean Limbach

St Kilda: Cain Ackland, Mark McGough, Matthew Ferguson, Allan Murray

Sydney: David Spriggs, Andrew Erickson, Earl Shaw, Matthew Davis, Josh Willoughby

West Coast: Travis Gaspar, Damien Adkins, Brad Smith

Western Bulldogs: Brad Murphy, Adam Morgan, Keiren McGuinness, Jesse Wells

How many of those, with the exception of Rodan (and Ramanuskas who was rookie listed due to health), were worth anything, or even did anything at a new club? Delisted players are dead men walking.

Cameron Cloke only oine that springs to mind

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