31 minutes ago, BAMF said:

I dont have to like it.

I don't think any of us like it. I suspect even the club doesn't like it.

But ...

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

So that was 25% 30%? ... equates to about $325k per annum (up to $375k)

A hell of a lot less than the mooted $700k per annum, and probably explains why we'll accept a late pick in the draft

By the way, the median amount ($350k) equates to just over 2% of an $18Million+ salary cap. A moderate write-off

Edited October 13Oct 13 by Macca

Dees to virtually delist Clarry … to trade for a future 3rd round , pick “55” in 2026 draft !!! A pick we will be unlikely to even use

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

Deep Purple's current tour is called exactly that... The Long Goodbye tour annnnd they released a "Stellar" album last year called = 1 and have another in the pipeline!! LONG MAY THEY LIVE!

Funny you mention Deep Purple... I heard an ad for them playing in Asia while I was there. Got me thinking as to whether there were any original band members left. According to Wikipedia we are now up to version 6 or thereabouts of the band. Got far too complicated for me. Is there anyone left?

6 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Dees to virtually delist Clarry … to trade for a future 3rd round , pick “55” in 2026 draft !!! A pick we will be unlikely to even use

Yes, he's being delisted in a roundabout way ... but instead of costing the club $7Million for 5 more years of his contract (or thereabouts), the cost to the club sounds like it will be less than $1.8Million all-up*

*If the recent reports are correct that we'll only be up for 25% - 30% of his salary

Edited October 13Oct 13 by Macca

3 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Funny you mention Deep Purple... I heard an ad for them playing in Asia while I was there. Got me thinking as to whether there were any original band members left. According to Wikipedia we are now up to version 6 or thereabouts of the band. Got far too complicated for me. Is there anyone left?

From the classic MkII line-up that gave us Machine Head, Ian Paice and Roger Glover. Ian Gillan has returned.

Ritchie Blackmore is still doing his own thing and Jon Lord passed several years ago

1 hour ago, Random Task said:

My guess is Oliver and 42 for 35 and f3.

35 and 28 and Petracca to the Suns for 7 and 8.

We keep 24 and flip it into future picks on draft night.

Fingers crossed for this outcome

37 minutes ago, Macca said:

So that was 25% 30%? ... equates to about $325k per annum (up to $375k)

A hell of a lot less than the mooted $700k per annum, and probably explains why we'll accept a late pick in the draft

By the way, the median amount ($350k) equates to just over 2% of an $18Million+ salary cap. A moderate write-off

Grundy was always going to be the benchmark.

iirc Pies paid about 50%. He was reportedly on $1.1m/$1,2m. We paid approx him $600K

Olivers contract is about $1.3m and will be about $1.7m in the later years of his contract. So $700 sounds about right.

The issue I have is if Oliver takes a pay cut after he is traded and GWS get all the $ benefit. He said he would take a pay cut last year if he was traded. So there is no reason to think he won't at GWS.

Just now, Lucifers Hero said:

Grundy was always going to be the benchmark.

iirc Pies paid about 50%. He was reportedly on $1.1m/$1,2m. We paid approx him $600K

Olivers contract is about $1.3m and will be about $1.7m in the later years of his contract. So $700 sounds about right.

The issue I have is if Oliver takes a pay cut after he is traded and GWS get all the $ benefit. He said he would take a pay cut last year if he was traded. So there is no reason to think he won't at GWS.

I was of the opinion that the Grundy amount was 25-30% of his salary which is significantly different to 50%

i.e at $1Million* we paid Grundy $750k and the Pies were up for $250k

But we'll probably never know the true figure

And I saw the $700k component for Oliver as "up to" $700k

*Wasn't Grundy's contract length 5 years at $1Million per annum after his last year at the Pies?

As for the pay cut, he doesn't have to flinch so why would he?

I still don't understand why we didn't go down the breach of contract path. Unless those contracts are so heavily in the players favour that almost anything goes

I suppose the players were always going to get full whack during covid so there's that

Edited October 13Oct 13 by Macca

1 minute ago, Macca said:

I was of the opinion that the Grundy amount was 25-30% of his salary which is significantly different to 50%

i.e at $1Million* we paid Grundy $750k and the Pies were up for $250k

But we'll probably never know the true figure

And I saw the $700k component for Oliver as "up to" $700k

*Wasn't Grundy's contract length 5 years at $1Million per annum after his last year at the Pies?

You could be right. I didn't bother to google it so was going from memory.

3 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

You could be right. I didn't bother to google it so was going from memory.

I'm going by memory as well so perhaps the answer lies somewhere in between

1 hour ago, bing181 said:

I don't think any of us like it. I suspect even the club doesn't like it.

But ...

Yeah. Dont get me wrong. I can see thr broader picture. Hell. I agree that we should move them on.

Losing Clarry? It hurts. Regardless of circumstances. Losing him for a late pick. It burns.

Seems that the Grundy subsidy was circa $250k whereas it was certainly spoken of as $500k at the time.

If we can offload Oliver at $325k per year take it and run UNLESS you think he gets 100% better form wise in 2026 (unlikely).

The Petracca deal is much harder to do but we know how it's going to end.

Mediocre Melbourne is back big time.

Boy it was a short ride at the top.

1 hour ago, Go the Biff said:

From the classic MkII line-up that gave us Machine Head, Ian Paice and Roger Glover. Ian Gillan has returned.

Ritchie Blackmore is still doing his own thing and Jon Lord passed several years ago

Well we are still getting Roger Glovered!

2 hours ago, Macca said:

So that was 25% 30%? ... equates to about $325k per annum (up to $375k)

A hell of a lot less than the mooted $700k per annum, and probably explains why we'll accept a late pick in the draft

By the way, the median amount ($350k) equates to just over 2% of an $18Million+ salary cap. A moderate write-off

Doesn't take away the hurt Dazz! Sheeit it almost feels that a part of the fabric of my support of the club has been ruthlessly and savagely ripped away, my fav player of the modern era. Sheeit it just friggen hurts

15 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Doesn't take away the hurt!

Sheeit it almost feels that a part of the fabric of my support of the club has been ruthlessly and savagely ripped away, my fav player of the modern era. Sheeit it just friggen hurts

Choo Choo no more

Got going too late in the season to save his career at the Demons

It is very sad to end this way but for his own sake, he needs a fresh start elsewhere

I reckon he'll return to his best as he was born to play footy and all he needs is a healthy mind and healthy body

All good things come to an end but prematurely losing Gus, ANB, Trac & Ollie is a body blow. In a parallel universe all 4 could still be playing standout footy for us

And replacing those types of players won't be easy ... like it or not, the club is now in rebuild mode (certainly in terms of being a contender again)

3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

So 30% or ~400k p.a. I can live with that.

On 11/10/2025 at 06:16, BDA said:

we're contracted to pay him his full amount. It's 100% our problem.

At first sight, Oliver would be breaking his contract with MFC. Therefore, Oliver is responsible for re-imbursing MFC such that MFC is in the same position as if he performed the contract. This might include as an ambit claim, kicking in $300k p.a. so that MFC might attract a free agent. This might backfires if he waddles around at Casey on his current salary but I don't think that he has the balls.

This might be set on its head if parts of his contract specifically survives its termination. Are you aware that this is the case?

I may have missed it but have there been any comments on what GWS are offering for Oliver?

35 minutes ago, old dee said:

I may have missed it but have there been any comments on what GWS are offering for Oliver?

Future 3rd

37 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Future 3rd

so a packet of chips. why even bother.

10 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

so a packet of chips. why even bother.

They have to offer something so it can be called "trade". Weird I know and makes you wonder why not a present fourth round?

13 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

so a packet of chips. why even bother.

To get him out of the club so King can reset the culture and clear as much of his salary as we can.

Edited October 14Oct 14 by Dr. Gonzo

No love for Clarry

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

They have to offer something so it can be called "trade". Weird I know and makes you wonder why not a present fourth round?

Pick 109 or we're out!