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7 hours ago, Macca said:

As for the pressure meter on any given coach, the heat is going to be applied to Voss way more than Goodwin

If the Blues lose to Collingwood next Thursday, it will be on for young and old at Princes Park

Mind you, North lost their first 4 games in 1975 and were 3 & 6 after round 9 but then went on to win the flag that year

Can’t agree with this Macca, Carlton has some A grade talent then it drops away quite considerably. We have considerably more talent that is not playing to its potential or as in your previous post as a team.

 
8 hours ago, BoBo said:

I feel like it hasn’t been mentioned in the north game thread (unless I missed it), but same as us now, they don’t have a Nibbler or Gus type player that interrupts the tide from rolling against them.

Not only do we not have a Nibbler or Gus type, we also don’t have a Jordon or Bedford type, who can lock down a mid/forward who is hurting us.

30 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Can’t agree with this Macca, Carlton has some A grade talent then it drops away quite considerably. We have considerably more talent that is not playing to its potential or as in your previous post as a team.

I agree with what you are saying but I reckon Carlton & Voss is the bigger story in eyes of the media & public

 

Good God

Just switched on Kayo and the promo picture for the Giants v Hawks game was Sicily and Toby Greene.

I was about to eat dinner. Shheeesh.

Looks more like a picture extolling the benefits of birth control.

2 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Good God

Just switched on Kayo and the promo picture for the Giants v Hawks game was Sicily and Toby Greene.

I was about to eat dinner. Shheeesh.

Looks more like a picture extolling the benefits of birth control.

Both of them can come and play for us anytime

10 hours ago, Macca said:

I agree with what you are saying but I reckon Carlton & Voss is the bigger story in eyes of the media & public

Macca is the best . Macca is the best.

Has anyone else noticed you can change other peoples posts when quoting them?

Like Macca being the best.

By golly it's tempting.

Edited by leave it to deever

 

Hawthorn fans are massive wankers.


4 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Has anyone else noticed you can change other peoples posts when quoting them?

By golly it's tempting.

Haha!

As for whether Voss & Carlton is the bigger story, I'm not so sure after today

I honestly thought we'd redeem ourselves today, but a 10 goal loss?

Our ball movement is just soooooo slow

The whole squad needs to be reprogrammed but to change in such a dramatic fashion requires a total buy-in

And the plan has to make sense as well

New plan with a total buy-in probably requires a new voice but is the club going to cut ties with the coach in season?

I can't see us doing it again but we did so with Balme, Daniher, Bailey & Neeld

So we've got form in the in-season sacking dept.

11 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

dingley are just fantastic to watch

god it sucks

I hate watching them….

12 minutes ago, Macca said:

Haha!

As for whether Voss & Carlton is the bigger story, I'm not so sure after today

I honestly thought we'd redeem ourselves today, but a 10 goal loss?

Our ball movement is just soooooo slow

The whole squad needs to be reprogrammed but to change in such a dramatic fashion requires a total buy-in

And the plan has to make sense as well

New plan with a total buy-in probably requires a new voice but is the club going to cut ties with the coach in season?

I can't see us doing it again but we did so with Balme, Daniher, Bailey & Neeld

So we've got form in the in-season sacking dept.

I don’t think we can afford to wait another 20 weeks of our current system

It’s completely busted

Any insight as to why we overlooked Hogan, as he spoke to the club 2020 trade period, We took BB played his part, but I’d say hogan & Neitz were our last contested power fwds

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8 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I don’t think we can afford to wait another 20 weeks of our current system

It’s completely busted

The question is not about your view (or my view) on whether Goodwin stays or goes

It's out of hands and in the clubs hands

I've always felt that our opinions mean nothing to clubs ... they are going to do what they are going to do

All we can hope for is that the club can make good decisions as we are powerless to change things ourselves

All our words have no impact. They are just words

But if things don't improve, they'll sack Goodwin. But when?


6 minutes ago, Macca said:

The question is not about your view (or my view) on whether Goodwin stays or goes

It's out of hands and in the clubs hands

I've always felt that our opinions mean nothing to clubs ... they are going to do what they are going to do

All we can hope for is that the club can make good decisions as we are powerless to change things ourselves

All our words have no impact. They are just words

But if things don't improve, they'll sack Goodwin. But when?

Tonight would be the right thing to do

Jeeelong next Friday is not worth thinking about

8 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:
1 hour ago, Clintosaurus said:

Hawthorn fans are massive wankers.

That is an absolutely on-point rant from Snapper. Sums up the entire rot at Carlton for a decade.

As for Hawthorn fans, pretty sure lube and tissues come with the membership pack.

For anyone watching Hawks-Giants, is there a massive wind at UTAS tonight or was it just a really weird first half?


1 minute ago, Nasher said:

Feels like I’ve traveled 10 years backwards in time. Melbourne are 💩 and Hawthorn are back to their insufferable best. Terrible year to be a footy fan.

it's thoroughly dee-pressing

3 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Tonight would be the right thing to do

Jeeelong next Friday is not worth thinking about

What we want to happen and what will actually happen are often poles apart

Richmond are a good example. For all their feral support, they were non competitive for close on 35 years

It took people like Gale, Balme, Hardwick and others to get their club going until they finally achieved success

And the success they achieved was not something their supporters even expected after decades in the wilderness

And then from nowhere, 3 flags in 4 years

So in many ways, we get what we are given

As previously stated, if things don't improve, the coach will get the flick

The flag gets Goodwin more time as does his overall W/L record along with finals participation in 2018, 2022 & 2023.

And even if he is sacked in season, I don't expect any sort of improvement with a caretaker coach.

The sport is too professional these days for someone to just come in and turn things around with a magic wand

Our issues run deep and to able to implement a totally new game will not just need the right coach, but the right types of talented, coachable players

 
4 minutes ago, Macca said:

What we want to happen and what will actually happen are often poles apart

Richmond are a good example. For all their feral support, they were non competitive for close on 35 years

It took people like Gale, Balme, Hardwick and others to get their club going until they finally achieved success

And the success they achieved was not something their supporters even expected after decades in the wilderness

And then from nowhere, 3 flags in 4 years

So in many ways, we get what we are given

As previously stated, if things don't improve, the coach will get the flick

The flag gets Goodwin more time as does his overall W/L record along with finals participation in 2018, 2022 & 2023.

And even if he is sacked in season, I don't expect any sort of improvement with a caretaker coach.

The sport is too professional these days for someone to just come in and turn things around with a magic wand

Our issues run deep and to able to implement a totally new game will not just need the right coach, but the right types of talented, coachable players

not strictly true; they made three straight elimination finals 2013-15, losing them all, then dipped in 2016 before the glorious 2017-2020 run

they developed slowly, much as we did leading up to and including 2018, before the serious dip in 2019, leading to the 2021-23 period

Watching Brisbane v Geelong on Kayo. Dermie and Johnno Brown seemingly having a [censored] -off


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