On 14/03/2025 at 06:14, titan_uranus said:

We know that in 2022-24 we struggled with the turnover game relative to better sides.

2022 & 2023, did it make that much difference?

Maybe kicking, a bad decision or so and injury hurt us more...

2024 was just a train wreck, it wouldn't matter what game style we played.

Due to property prices and two failed spinal fusions that stuffed up my laryngeal nerves and made my pain worse , I moved out of Melbourne and the real estate and property development business to a regional town in Northern Wollongong 

It's a beautiful place , 20 mins north of the city.

It's the Pacific ocean meeting the breath taking huge escarpment of rainforest.

We live in a 4 bedroom pole/ tree house alongside  Wallabies, imported dear, Echidnas, Blue tongues , plagues of cicadas, tree frogs, parrots  cockatoos, rosellas, galahs, blue finches and lots of snakes and Kookaburras.

We walk out our back yard along hiking trails through the rain forest to see creeks and small cascades to relax by.

We gather firewood to warm is in the short winters and boogie board in the Summer to cool down.

So it has it pluses. Including the benefits of a big city Wollongong and if needed a one hours drive to Sydney.

Also the equity of our sold Melbourne abode exchange , acquired two homes fully paid for here.

But when I see the MCG all lit up like tonight my heart yearns for my old home.

Sure the crime here is less and the air is cleaner but it just can't beat the excitement of watching a game at the G.

The screws have tightened recently and returns to my home city are far and few between.

Just wanted to remind everyone that the gras may be greener somewhere else, but never as green as the grass on the hallowed turf of the MCG.

 

  On 14/03/2025 at 10:12, Sir Why You Little said:

A lot of Stats mean nothing 

Hawthorn should win this by over 10 goals 

Agreed.

That was my point.

 

Stats don't paint the full picture and at half time this was completely the case here

 

They may win by ten but it's at a crucial junction right now.

But if Dons get the next one I'm gonna back them.

 

Quick edit two mins later.

Your right ten goals here we come.

Edited March 14Mar 14 by leave it to deever

  On 14/03/2025 at 10:02, Demonland said:

 

Does the rule include reference to prior opportunity?  There are many examples in a tight situation in the goal square which leads to players who could have just kicked it away not doing so and later getting into a mess and under the resulting pressure conceding a point. Isn’t that what happened here when once he slipped over and an opponent jumped on him   He was under pressure and hit it through. 

  On 14/03/2025 at 10:38, leave it to deever said:

Due to property prices and two failed spinal fusions that stuffed up my laryngeal nerves and made my pain worse , I moved out of Melbourne and the real estate and property development business to a regional town in Northern Wollongong 

It's a beautiful place , 20 mins north of the city.

It's the Pacific ocean meeting the breath taking huge escarpment of rainforest.

We live in a 4 bedroom pole/ tree house alongside  Wallabies, imported dear, Echidnas, Blue tongues , plagues of cicadas, tree frogs, parrots  cockatoos, rosellas, galahs, blue finches and lots of snakes and Kookaburras.

We walk out our back yard along hiking trails through the rain forest to see creeks and small cascades to relax by.

We gather firewood to warm is in the short winters and boogie board in the Summer to cool down.

So it has it pluses. Including the benefits of a big city Wollongong and if needed a one hours drive to Sydney.

Also the equity of our sold Melbourne abode exchange , acquired two homes fully paid for here.

But when I see the MCG all lit up like tonight my heart yearns for my old home.

Sure the crime here is less and the air is cleaner but it just can't beat the excitement of watching a game at the G.

The screws have tightened recently and returns to my home city are far and few between.

Just wanted to remind everyone that the gras may be greener somewhere else, but never as green as the grass on the hallowed turf of the MCG.

 

#humblebrag ;)

 

  On 14/03/2025 at 10:45, Demonland said:

 

Diddums 

  On 14/03/2025 at 07:06, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Completely agree with your point Binman. But the data is the data. Unless a team can slingshot with precision off half back on a regular basis, ones chances of grabbing a flag are significantly reduced.

Absolutely, wasn't arguing otherwise.

You still have to get inside 50 but.

Which is basically what hoyne said in the segment being discussed

I reckon the percentage of games won in the 2-3 last seasons by teams having fewer inside 50s than their opponent would be vanishingly small (and yes I know the lions won the flag with 2 less inside 50s).

And I'd add that one thing that hasn't changed is pressure is critical and the team thay applies most pressure is more likely to win (though pies in 2023 were an outlier in this regard).

Edited March 14Mar 14 by binman

  On 14/03/2025 at 10:45, Demonland said:

 

A few more injuries to the Sewage Farm and it will be a constructive night 

I just watched the end of a cracking nrl game. 

Anyway hopefully hawthorn can keep this lead

  On 14/03/2025 at 10:43, Little Goffy said:

#humblebrag ;)

It's a great expression.

I mentioned it l or a couple of reasons.

One I get nostalgic in my older years.

And two with the massive cost of living pressures ATM people should remind themselves they have choices.

Not all places in Oz require you to mortgage your soul and left N#t to ave a roof over head.

Yea employment wise people don't always have that option but smart people can always create opportunities to make cash anywhere.

I had family this way so it helped but yea some of my Melbourne mates have been crushed with interest rates in the last three years. It's affecting their health and denying them time with their kids other than footy.

Footy really comes into its own when you can share it with the kids.

Quality time for everyone.

And for the gents, if you can snag a lass that loves footy or can talk her into it, your set for life.

Unless of course she's a pies supporter.

It's divorce court for you I'm afraid or silence and chastity for six months a year.

Edited March 14Mar 14 by leave it to deever

Injuries and suspensions make the result more palatable - Hawks look real, damn it.

Hawthorn have gone from underrated to a tad overrated imo.

  On 14/03/2025 at 10:38, leave it to deever said:

Due to property prices and two failed spinal fusions that stuffed up my laryngeal nerves and made my pain worse , I moved out of Melbourne and the real estate and property development business to a regional town in Northern Wollongong 

It's a beautiful place , 20 mins north of the city.

It's the Pacific ocean meeting the breath taking huge escarpment of rainforest.

We live in a 4 bedroom pole/ tree house alongside  Wallabies, imported dear, Echidnas, Blue tongues , plagues of cicadas, tree frogs, parrots  cockatoos, rosellas, galahs, blue finches and lots of snakes and Kookaburras.

We walk out our back yard along hiking trails through the rain forest to see creeks and small cascades to relax by.

We gather firewood to warm is in the short winters and boogie board in the Summer to cool down.

So it has it pluses. Including the benefits of a big city Wollongong and if needed a one hours drive to Sydney.

Also the equity of our sold Melbourne abode exchange , acquired two homes fully paid for here.

But when I see the MCG all lit up like tonight my heart yearns for my old home.

Sure the crime here is less and the air is cleaner but it just can't beat the excitement of watching a game at the G.

The screws have tightened recently and returns to my home city are far and few between.

Just wanted to remind everyone that the gras may be greener somewhere else, but never as green as the grass on the hallowed turf of the MCG.

 

You could of just moved to Castlemaine 😂

  On 14/03/2025 at 10:38, leave it to deever said:

Due to property prices and two failed spinal fusions that stuffed up my laryngeal nerves and made my pain worse , I moved out of Melbourne and the real estate and property development business to a regional town in Northern Wollongong 

It's a beautiful place , 20 mins north of the city.

It's the Pacific ocean meeting the breath taking huge escarpment of rainforest.

We live in a 4 bedroom pole/ tree house alongside  Wallabies, imported dear, Echidnas, Blue tongues , plagues of cicadas, tree frogs, parrots  cockatoos, rosellas, galahs, blue finches and lots of snakes and Kookaburras.

We walk out our back yard along hiking trails through the rain forest to see creeks and small cascades to relax by.

We gather firewood to warm is in the short winters and boogie board in the Summer to cool down.

So it has it pluses. Including the benefits of a big city Wollongong and if needed a one hours drive to Sydney.

Also the equity of our sold Melbourne abode exchange , acquired two homes fully paid for here.

But when I see the MCG all lit up like tonight my heart yearns for my old home.

Sure the crime here is less and the air is cleaner but it just can't beat the excitement of watching a game at the G.

The screws have tightened recently and returns to my home city are far and few between.

Just wanted to remind everyone that the gras may be greener somewhere else, but never as green as the grass on the hallowed turf of the MCG.

 

I hear ya, Deeves. The ‘G is indeed a very special place, and not just when games are playing there. I regularly have occasion to be there when there’s nothing on and that’s when the experience is next level spiritual. It’s a beautiful imposing structure and there’s no better sporting venue on the planet. An extra special experience is Sleep at the ‘G in May every year. Wandering around the concourse in the dark is amazing and waking up there is trippy. 

  On 14/03/2025 at 10:45, Demonland said:

 

At first glance the only three words I read in that tweet were "Langford officially out" and I [censored] myself.

  On 14/03/2025 at 11:00, DEE fence said:

Injuries and suspensions make the result more palatable - Hawks look real, damn it.

Yep.

But their method is completely dependent on their running power.

It's a long season and as we saw with both the hawks and swans if that aspect drops off so do they.

Come on hawks, keep it up that end 

I’d much prefer Essendon to win. There’s not a player I like at hawthorn bar frost

Essenthing have held on more than i expected. 

  On 14/03/2025 at 11:11, Roost it far said:

I’d much prefer Essendon to win. There’s not a player I like at hawthorn bar frost

Did you ever go to Windy Hill @Roost it far?

Is it game on?

  On 14/03/2025 at 11:09, binman said:

Yep.

But their method is completely dependent on their running power.

It's a long season and as we saw with both the hawks and swans if that aspect drops off so do they.

Stole my thunder Binman. Run and gun is hard to sustain for a whole season

  On 14/03/2025 at 11:13, leave it to deever said:

Is it game on?

Nup

Essendon have actually played better footy over the ground, but their disposal is atrocious. Hawthorn don't need much of the ball to execute with precision.