On 05/02/2025 at 22:10, ManDee said:

Two club father?

Yes but played 100+ games for us and only 30-odd for his second club. 

  On 05/02/2025 at 22:09, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Is it just me, or does Aidan Johnson look like he's already put on a heap of size since joining the club?

Perhaps being a full time footballer contributes to this, more time to work on physical fitness when not working a full time job.

I reckon he's got that David Schwarz type of hypertrophy where if just touches the weights he puts on size. 

  On 05/02/2025 at 22:09, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Is it just me, or does Aidan Johnson look like he's already put on a heap of size since joining the club?

Perhaps being a full time footballer contributes to this, more time to work on physical fitness when not working a full time job.

Certainly body shape starts to change once you get get into the AFL program.  Even when I look at Campbell, and hes been around for awhile and perhaps he wasnt expecting the opportunity but he now looks more like an athlete rather than the backup ruckman from the '70s.

  On 05/02/2025 at 02:24, Ghostwriter said:

He made a point of saying it’s nothing, he can’t even feel anything amiss at all, the club is simply not taking even the slightest unnecessary chance. I hadn’t asked him about it, he brought it up and the thing with Shane is that he can’t hide when he’s bummed out over an injury. It really shows. But he is just as buoyant and confident as he has been lately and that’s very telling. 

Would be a great reason for getting off the track and into the pool.  Ive been doing the same myself, less percusive but still able to do resistance and flexibility development.

  On 05/02/2025 at 22:13, DistrACTION Jackson said:

True... but still wouldn't need to be a secret I wouldn't have thought

I've done a little research and I think we have 7 players who have played over 100 with us and another club.

Jeff Farmer

Jeremy Howe

Bernie Vince

James Frawley

Steven May

Jake Melksham

There is one I'm unsure of who played 109 games for Melbourne and then 102 for Carlton.... fun little quiz for your Thursday

Where’s @Demonstone when we need him? 

  On 05/02/2025 at 22:13, DistrACTION Jackson said:

True... but still wouldn't need to be a secret I wouldn't have thought

I've done a little research and I think we have 7 players who have played over 100 with us and another club.

Jeff Farmer

Jeremy Howe

Bernie Vince

James Frawley

Steven May

Jake Melksham

There is one I'm unsure of who played 109 games for Melbourne and then 102 for Carlton.... fun little quiz for your Thursday

Mclean

  On 05/02/2025 at 22:44, Ghostwriter said:

Yes but played 100+ games for us and only 30-odd for his second club. 

Have narrowed it down to two players.... 😉

  On 05/02/2025 at 22:56, forever demons said:

Mclean

Nah I looked into him, didn't play over 100 for either

  On 05/02/2025 at 22:13, DistrACTION Jackson said:

True... but still wouldn't need to be a secret I wouldn't have thought

I've done a little research and I think we have 7 players who have played over 100 with us and another club.

Jeff Farmer

Jeremy Howe

Bernie Vince

James Frawley

Steven May

Jake Melksham

There is one I'm unsure of who played 109 games for Melbourne and then 102 for Carlton.... fun little quiz for your Thursday

I believe you need to go back a bit further and look for a Daniher era defender 

  On 05/02/2025 at 23:15, DeeSpencer said:

I believe you need to go back a bit further and look for a Daniher era defender 

Can't find any that fit the bill sorry.... Please enlighten me

The Jefferson vs Jed Adams contest was very interesting to watch. The coach was just kicking it high into the air and they had to grapple and use their strength to win it. It did seem like Adams won maybe 6 and Jeffo won 2 - but it was clear that the kind of grappling and wrestling isn't really Jeffersons natural mode at all. I don't think he's ever going to be a gorilla type full or centre half forward that can push opponents around.
Based on his under 18s and VFL highlights his skill is more at reading the play and getting into the right spots where he can take either an uncontested mark or be in front of his opponent and use his long levers to reach up and grab it. He also seems quite good at getting front and centres, ground balls, linking up with handballs and doing some more small or medium type forward actions. 
I wouldn't say his intensity was an issue. You could tell he was trying hard and was frustrated that Jed kept beating him. 
He also contributed a bit in the match simulations. It will be interesting to see how he goes this year! Fingers crossed he gets a taste of AFL footy and can offer something to the forward line

  On 05/02/2025 at 23:21, Enter Sandman-2021 said:

The Jefferson vs Jed Adams contest was very interesting to watch. The coach was just kicking it high into the air and they had to grapple and use their strength to win it. It did seem like Adams won maybe 6 and Jeffo won 2 - but it was clear that the kind of grappling and wrestling isn't really Jeffersons natural mode at all. I don't think he's ever going to be a gorilla type full or centre half forward that can push opponents around.
Based on his under 18s and VFL highlights his skill is more at reading the play and getting into the right spots where he can take either an uncontested mark or be in front of his opponent and use his long levers to reach up and grab it. He also seems quite good at getting front and centres, ground balls, linking up with handballs and doing some more small or medium type forward actions. 
I wouldn't say his intensity was an issue. You could tell he was trying hard and was frustrated that Jed kept beating him. 
He also contributed a bit in the match simulations. It will be interesting to see how he goes this year! Fingers crossed he gets a taste of AFL footy and can offer something to the forward line

From what I’ve seen in training videos and down at training, Adams has also really improved this off season and looks bigger, stronger and more confident. 

  On 05/02/2025 at 23:19, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Can't find any that fit the bill sorry.... Please enlighten me

 https://i.imgur.com/HeAmTzd.jpg

Edited February 5Feb 5 by Demonstone

  On 05/02/2025 at 23:19, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Can't find any that fit the bill sorry.... Please enlighten me

Earl Spalding

  On 05/02/2025 at 23:44, Demonstone said:

 https://i.imgur.com/HeAmTzd.jpg

thank you.

  On 05/02/2025 at 22:58, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Nah I looked into him, didn't play over 100 for either

I remember him being touted as a future captain

  On 05/02/2025 at 23:47, Harvey Wallbanger said:

Earl Spalding

That's the one! 

so we could have a duke leb and duke jr??

Another big thanks to Ghostwriter, DeeSpencer, DeeBoy, Ditcha, Harvey Wallbanger, Turner and Fritta and all posters and special comments greatly appreciated. Great to hear that Rick and JV were there after the 4 days in the NT with Kate Hore and Ricky Mentha representing our mighty club in 40+ degree heat, Rick & JV had their families with them as well.👏👏.

In order to have a successful season they say you need as many of your list doing 80% of full training sessions over pre season. This is the following "23" that have had a flawless or near flawless pre season (according to DL reports) as we head into the praccy match against North. These players have given themselves every opportunity to excel in 2025 (touchwood):

B       Hore   May   Howes

HB     Salem   McDonald   Bowey

C       Windsor    Rivers     Langdon

HF     Fritsch     Petty     Billings

F       Pickett      JVR      A Johnson

FOLL   Campbell  Oliver    Viney

INT     Billings    Laurie    AMW    Sharp    Langford

E Jefferson  Adams  Verrall  Sestan  Mentha   Woewodin  Brown

I estimate that 13 players have done less than 80% and they include best 23 mainstays in McVee, Petracca, Lever, Spargo, Turner, Gawn, Melksham, Chandler, Sparrow, while Tholstrupp, McAdam, Lindsey are around the fringes of our senior side.

Whether that latter group number is too high remains to be seen, and it would be interesting to compare these numbers with our 2020/2021 pre season.

  On 05/02/2025 at 07:59, Ghostwriter said:

I thought it was Ryder Brown too. Had myself convinced he had a similar gait to Pup and the same body-type: long body, short legs, low centre of gravity. So I asked around and it seemed no one was sure who he was. Then Richo told a couple of us he was a f/s and told us his name. After training I was introduced to him as a different first name but another Demonlander has worked out he is the f/s about whom Richo told us only Richo got his first name wrong. So yeah, he’s the son of a former player but for some reason Richo stressed we can’t post it anywhere. 

 

  On 05/02/2025 at 22:05, DistrACTION Jackson said:

This is very strange.... wonder why we can't talk about a F/S player given they are available to us if we want?

Is it possible the former player doesn't know he has this son? 

  On 06/02/2025 at 00:41, Bring-Back-Powell said:

In order to have a successful season they say you need as many of your list doing 80% of full training sessions over pre season. This is the following "23" that have had a flawless or near flawless pre season (according to DL reports) as we head into the praccy match against North. These players have given themselves every opportunity to excel in 2025 (touchwood):

B       Hore   May   Howes

HB     Salem   McDonald   Bowey

C       Windsor    Rivers     Langdon

HF     Fritsch     Petty     Billings

F       Pickett      JVR      A Johnson

FOLL   Campbell  Oliver    Viney

INT     Billings    Laurie    AMW    Sharp    Langford

E Jefferson  Adams  Verrall  Sestan  Mentha   Woewodin  Brown

I estimate that 13 players have done less than 80% and they include best 23 mainstays in McVee, Petracca, Lever, Spargo, Turner, Gawn, Melksham, Chandler, Sparrow, while Tholstrupp, McAdam, Lindsey are around the fringes of our senior side.

Whether that latter group number is too high remains to be seen, and it would be interesting to compare these numbers with our 2020/2021 pre season.

I think Trac and Gawn is hard to assess, as they have both been able to do a lot of running but have just been held back from contact. I don’t think they would count as not doing 80% for that reason.

  On 06/02/2025 at 00:48, DistrACTION Jackson said:

I think Trac and Gawn is hard to assess, as they have both been able to do a lot of running but have just been held back from contact. I don’t think they would count as not doing 80% for that reason.

You can add Chandler to that list

  On 06/02/2025 at 00:43, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

 

Is it possible the former player doesn't know he has this son? 

Never thought of that possibility

😬

  On 05/02/2025 at 23:24, DistrACTION Jackson said:

From what I’ve seen in training videos and down at training, Adams has also really improved this off season and looks bigger, stronger and more confident. 

First time I’ve seen him in the flesh and he’s a huge lump of a lad. I don’t think it’s alarm bells Jeffo was getting moved around so much.