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On 27/01/2025 at 16:09, Ollie fan said:

Personally, I think he is nothing like Rivers. He is not a big strong body, and if he tries to muscle up too much it might affect the qualities he has.

 Completely agree.

He is a big strong body, if you closely watched him last year you would see how well in and under he was for an 18 year old.

He has the frame and will fill out nicely to become a Zac Merret type frame.

He is hard at it and perfect for a midfield run, will improve his kicking and learn the game tempo and when to take it on.

 
1 hour ago, demoncat said:

m8 don’t get me wrong I love McVee and Rivers, but I think you’re the one who needs their eyes checked if you think we have Dan Houston or Lachie Whitfield back there 

The fact is compared to a lot of  contenders our half backs don’t rack up a lot of possessions and, apart from the odd highlight or two, don’t play a significant role in our ball movement 

UTTER RUBBISH.

Why has Riv been able to successfully transfer to a harder role in the midfield without being good at HalfBack.

Judd has had 2 great years at HB and is one of the best young HBacks in the AFL.

Thts why I am not fussed we haven’t got Houston. Whitfield was better 5 years ago.

You are due at Specsavers in half an hour. Dont criticise our players ridiculously. 

houston and whitfield are two of the best rebounding defenders in the competition

i'd argue that mcvee is a better 'defender' per se; his 1:1 work and ability to 'stop' his oppo is fantastic

he's a 'neat' kick who focuses on maintaining possession whereas houston and whitfield are attacking kicks

Edited by whatwhat say what

 
23 minutes ago, 58er said:

UTTER RUBBISH.

Why has Riv been able to successfully transfer to a harder role in the midfield without being good at HalfBack.

Judd has had 2 great years at HB and is one of the best young HBacks in the AFL.

Thts why I am not fussed we haven’t got Houston. Whitfield was better 5 years ago.

You are due at Specsavers in half an hour. Dont criticise our players ridiculously. 

My brother in Christ you need to relax I never said they were bad players

If you can’t understand the nuance of what I’m saying then I don’t know what to tell you 

And hey for what it’s worth if the coaches agreed with you they wouldn’t have tried to trade for Houston and wouldn’t have moved Windsor so half back so 🙃

 

3 hours ago, 58er said:

UTTER RUBBISH.

Why has Riv been able to successfully transfer to a harder role in the midfield without being good at HalfBack.

Judd has had 2 great years at HB and is one of the best young HBacks in the AFL.

Thts why I am not fussed we haven’t got Houston. Whitfield was better 5 years ago.

You are due at Specsavers in half an hour. Dont criticise our players ridiculously. 

Says the person who wears rose coloured glasses.


If only I had a quid for every post that opens with the word rubbish.

Great to have passion but it comes across as fairly arrogant IMHO.

Can we all try and take it down a notch or two this year.

Let's make Dl a positive and enjoyable site for everyone in 2025 you bunch of.....

  • 2 weeks later...

Watched a replay of the first West Coast game the other day to analyse what went wrong that day, as that was quite frankly the beginning of the end of our season. We couldn’t blame injury as Trac and most others were still in the side.

Anyway, amongst the doom and gloom, I was 100% impressed by Caleb Windsor‘s set shot in the first quarter from just outside the 50. One of the most pure shots you’ll ever see, and one that not many on our list are capable of. Add that to the clutch last quarter goals he kicked against Port and Geelong in those wins, suggests you have a players that can seize the moment and will embrace the pressure.

The point of this post is that I would like him played further up the field as much as possible in order for those goal kicking opportunities to arise (Bowey the same who I reckon is absolute “money” from 50 out on the run).

Lastly, I have high hopes that he can turn out to be an Isaac Smith type. 15-20 goals a year as a class wingman who has been clutch on grand final days.

 

 

 

Edited by Bring-Back-Powell

23 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Watched a replay of the first West Coast game the other day to analyse what went wrong that day, as that was quite frankly the beginning of the end of our season. We couldn’t blame injury as Trac and most others were still in the side.

Anyway, amongst the doom and gloom, I was 100% impressed by Caleb Windsor‘s set shot in the first quarter from just outside the 50. One of the most pure shots you’ll ever see, and one that not many on our list are capable of. Add that to the clutch last quarter goals he kicked against Port and Geelong in those wins, suggests you have a players that can seize the moment and will embrace the pressure.

The point of this post is that I would like him played further up the field as much as possible in order for those goal kicking opportunities to arise (Bowey the same who I reckon is absolute “money” from 50 out on the run).

Lastly, I have high hopes that he can turn out to be an Isaac Smith type. 15-20 goals a year as a class wingman who has been clutch on grand final days.

 

 

 

Anyone know why he didn’t train yesterday?

 
44 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Watched a replay of the first West Coast game the other day to analyse what went wrong that day, as that was quite frankly the beginning of the end of our season. We couldn’t blame injury as Trac and most others were still in the side.

Anyway, amongst the doom and gloom, I was 100% impressed by Caleb Windsor‘s set shot in the first quarter from just outside the 50. One of the most pure shots you’ll ever see, and one that not many on our list are capable of. Add that to the clutch last quarter goals he kicked against Port and Geelong in those wins, suggests you have a players that can seize the moment and will embrace the pressure.

The point of this post is that I would like him played further up the field as much as possible in order for those goal kicking opportunities to arise (Bowey the same who I reckon is absolute “money” from 50 out on the run).

Lastly, I have high hopes that he can turn out to be an Isaac Smith type. 15-20 goals a year as a class wingman who has been clutch on grand final days.

 

 

 

I reckon with his new role he will have a license to roam, a bit like Daicos from half back

54 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Watched a replay of the first West Coast game the other day to analyse what went wrong that day, as that was quite frankly the beginning of the end of our season. We couldn’t blame injury as Trac and most others were still in the side.

Anyway, amongst the doom and gloom, I was 100% impressed by Caleb Windsor‘s set shot in the first quarter from just outside the 50. One of the most pure shots you’ll ever see, and one that not many on our list are capable of. Add that to the clutch last quarter goals he kicked against Port and Geelong in those wins, suggests you have a players that can seize the moment and will embrace the pressure.

The point of this post is that I would like him played further up the field as much as possible in order for those goal kicking opportunities to arise (Bowey the same who I reckon is absolute “money” from 50 out on the run).

Lastly, I have high hopes that he can turn out to be an Isaac Smith type. 15-20 goals a year as a class wingman who has been clutch on grand final days.

 

 

 

I've had similar thoughts. He clearly is profoundly calm and has terrific perception in complicated situations. He could become that priceless wing/half-forward who can put the ball in unexpected places even when the opposition defence in set up.


33 minutes ago, alpha33 said:

Anyone know why he didn’t train yesterday?

Nothings been reported, but hopefully they’re just giving him a day off as I reckon he’s completed close to, or up to 100% of sessions. Or maybe a personal matter?

Hopefully we don’t get an unpleasant surprise next week in one of Richo’s injury updates.

2 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Watched a replay of the first West Coast game the other day to analyse what went wrong that day, as that was quite frankly the beginning of the end of our season. We couldn’t blame injury as Trac and most others were still in the side.

Anyway, amongst the doom and gloom, I was 100% impressed by Caleb Windsor‘s set shot in the first quarter from just outside the 50. One of the most pure shots you’ll ever see, and one that not many on our list are capable of. Add that to the clutch last quarter goals he kicked against Port and Geelong in those wins, suggests you have a players that can seize the moment and will embrace the pressure.

The point of this post is that I would like him played further up the field as much as possible in order for those goal kicking opportunities to arise (Bowey the same who I reckon is absolute “money” from 50 out on the run).

Lastly, I have high hopes that he can turn out to be an Isaac Smith type. 15-20 goals a year as a class wingman who has been clutch on grand final days.

 

 

 

Just tweak his position to be a centreman and he will deliver the 15/20/25 goals and many passes to our forwards. 

And oh a BandF or two, plus a Brownlow and a Norm Smith or two!!

Just by getting him front and centre in the middle of the ground and the play from each quarter start and alap  after every goal kicked in the game. ( except when on the interchange fairly briefly).

Easiest move for our better version of Chad Warner of the Swans. 

33 minutes ago, 58er said:

Just tweak his position to be a centreman

I don't understand what you mean by centreman...the role that say Hassa Mann played as a true centreman is no longer a part of the game. 

What role do you want Windsor to play when you keep bringing this up?

Should he take centre bounces? how should he position around the ground?

Who plays this role for other clubs?

I'm trying to understand your meaning here.

 

Caleb, Leb, the Duke Windsor was a revelation last year and he hasn’t missed a beat during the preseason, he has shown that he is a huge asset to the team. I loved him on the wing But if the coaching group can see a greater advantage for the team playing him of hbf, I am in favour of that. It is going to be a great watch with Windsor, Langford, Lindsay, Brown, Sharp and eventually Tholstrup representing us this year.😁👍


On 29/01/2025 at 10:16, demoncat said:

My brother in Christ you need to relax I never said they were bad players

If you can’t understand the nuance of what I’m saying then I don’t know what to tell you 

And hey for what it’s worth if the coaches agreed with you they wouldn’t have tried to trade for Houston and wouldn’t have moved Windsor so half back so 🙃

 

Get in the line with 50 other people that still has no idea what '58' is rambling on about half the time..

1 hour ago, DeeZone said:

Caleb, Leb, the Duke Windsor was a revelation last year and he hasn’t missed a beat during the preseason, he has shown that he is a huge asset to the team. I loved him on the wing But if the coaching group can see a greater advantage for the team playing him of hbf, I am in favour of that. It is going to be a great watch with Windsor, Langford, Lindsay, Brown, Sharp and eventually Tholstrup representing us this year.😁👍

It's a significant list / best 22 shift in 2 years isn't it? None played in the team that finished top 4 three years running. I think the first three will undoubtedly make us better when they get used to the level.

And Sharp looks a good replacement for ANB, Brown looks likely IMO, and there's no doubting (although I'm not entirely sold on him) that Kolt brings great energy across half forward.

Edited by Adam The God

2 hours ago, Adam The God said:

It's a significant list / best 22 shift in 2 years isn't it? None played in the team that finished top 4 three years running. I think the first three will undoubtedly make us better when they get used to the level.

And Sharp looks a good replacement for ANB, Brown looks likely IMO, and there's no doubting (although I'm not entirely sold on him) that Kolt brings great energy across half forward.

I think Kolt looks a little startled everytime he gets the ball. He plays like a farm kid thrust into the big time.....funny that, that's exactly what he is. I wasn't sure last year but I'm starting to think this kid could be anything in a few years. I bummed about his injury but it appears they got onto it early. He's got time on his side.

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