4 minutes ago, doomsday dee said:

He doesn't want midfield time

Doesn’t he?

FWIW, last Saturday at the captain’s run Judd said that his decision on his future has nothing to do with who our head coach is/was. He said nothing has changed with the sacking of Goody, he’s always planned (and still plans) on staying. Then on Tuesday he said “just some loose ends to tie up, but yeah, I’m not leaving.”

Incidentally, I don’t ask him about his decision, he volunteers the info.

Ok, so I may’ve given him the odd death threat or two, but that was in the past. I don’t even need to give him the sideways stink-eye..: he knows. 😁

8 minutes ago, Dannyz said:

Doesn’t he?

No

I’ve always doubted the midfield time stuff, he was playing half back for his wafl colts team when we drafted him.

What I bet he wants is to play at least half back rather than being the main lock down defender. Salem was his mentor when he came to the club and I bet he wants his spot.

Unfortunately back pocket is a big gap in our list that Richo, Lamb and the list management committee didn’t even try to fix. I guess the 3 possible candidates all got injured - AMW, Hore and Sestan. We’ve tried Howes at times, but any coach is putting McVee on a good small forward not Howes.

But it’s not like Judd is stuck in the back pocket forever, eventually we’d find a replacement and chuck him up the ground. I think the bigger reasons Judd will leave are 1) cash 2) family 3) McQualter.

McQualter was a big Judd guy. Last year we tried him up the ground more than this year. (Because we had other options). Unfortunately when you hire fresh assistants and they leave they often take guys with them. That’s how we got Melk and Hibberd after all.

West Coast are also going to absolutely ream us with the PSD threat. We’ll be lucky to get a future second. Maybe we can push the AFL to make their priority pick dependent on trading it and get a start of the second rounder. Either way it’s not a win.

8 minutes ago, doomsday dee said:

No

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/1652188/mcvees-moves-a-question-from-goodwin

Any idea why he lied in this interview?

8 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

I’ve always doubted the midfield time stuff, he was playing half back for his wafl colts team when we drafted him.

What I bet he wants is to play at least half back rather than being the main lock down defender. Salem was his mentor when he came to the club and I bet he wants his spot.

Unfortunately back pocket is a big gap in our list that Richo, Lamb and the list management committee didn’t even try to fix. I guess the 3 possible candidates all got injured - AMW, Hore and Sestan. We’ve tried Howes at times, but any coach is putting McVee on a good small forward not Howes.

But it’s not like Judd is stuck in the back pocket forever, eventually we’d find a replacement and chuck him up the ground. I think the bigger reasons Judd will leave are 1) cash 2) family 3) McQualter.

McQualter was a big Judd guy. Last year we tried him up the ground more than this year. (Because we had other options). Unfortunately when you hire fresh assistants and they leave they often take guys with them. That’s how we got Melk and Hibberd after all.

West Coast are also going to absolutely ream us with the PSD threat. We’ll be lucky to get a future second. Maybe we can push the AFL to make their priority pick dependent on trading it and get a start of the second rounder. Either way it’s not a win.

I'd flip Judd and Rivers.

Judd is more composed with ball in hand, and is a creative kick of the ball. He could give a passable NAS impersonation.

Rivers has a Pig like athletic profile and could be a nice match up for guys like Heeney and Toby Greene.

4 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

I’ve always doubted the midfield time stuff, he was playing half back for his wafl colts team when we drafted him.

What I bet he wants is to play at least half back rather than being the main lock down defender. Salem was his mentor when he came to the club and I bet he wants his spot.

Unfortunately back pocket is a big gap in our list that Richo, Lamb and the list management committee didn’t even try to fix. I guess the 3 possible candidates all got injured - AMW, Hore and Sestan. We’ve tried Howes at times, but any coach is putting McVee on a good small forward not Howes.

But it’s not like Judd is stuck in the back pocket forever, eventually we’d find a replacement and chuck him up the ground. I think the bigger reasons Judd will leave are 1) cash 2) family 3) McQualter.

McQualter was a big Judd guy. Last year we tried him up the ground more than this year. (Because we had other options). Unfortunately when you hire fresh assistants and they leave they often take guys with them. That’s how we got Melk and Hibberd after all.

West Coast are also going to absolutely ream us with the PSD threat. We’ll be lucky to get a future second. Maybe we can push the AFL to make their priority pick dependent on trading it and get a start of the second rounder. Either way it’s not a win.

Judd is really important player for us i reckon.

He has only recently been getting somewhere near his best this season but that is because his injuries completely derailed his season (ditto for Kolt to a lesser extent, Lindsay whose PCL meant he had a sub optimal preseason - the impact of interrupted preseasons cant be underestimated, partic for young players).

By far our biggest need is elite kicks and when on Judd is arguably our best field kick. Totally agree that Judd likey wants to play half back rather than being the main small/medium lock down defender. And like you i suspect the only reason he hasn't is the injury to AMW who was primed for the key role of small/medium lock down defender.

Judd's best position IMO is not a mid it is an attacking half back flanker that has the green light to run off his nominal opponent, be aggressive and push forward (would love him to be takin a high number of inside 50 kicks) and take on high risk kicks on transition that open up opposition's zones defences.

That role has become one of the most critical in footy given how important ball movement is atm. A player that comes to mind that plays that role super well (and a player i would love to come to the dees) is Kitty Coleman.

Edited Thursday at 02:193 days by binman

3 minutes ago, binman said:

By far our biggest need is elite kicks and when on Judd is arguably our best field kick. Totally agree that Judd likey wants to play half back rather than being the main lock down defender. And like you i suspect the only reason he hasn't is the injury to AMW who was primed for the key role of small/medium lock down defender.

He's not as good as Bowey IMO

28 minutes ago, Dannyz said:

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/1652188/mcvees-moves-a-question-from-goodwin

Any idea why he lied in this interview?

That was last year

4 minutes ago, doomsday dee said:

That was last year

"“I’m pretty proud of that midfield time and hopefully I can do a bit more midfield stuff next year.” "

http://melbournefc.com.au/news/1652188/mcvees-moves-a-question-from-goodwin

20 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

He's not as good as Bowey IMO

Yep, that's a fair call. If anything Bowser's field kicking has improved this year, particularly in terms of the depth of his kicks - for a little fella he can really woof the ball and unlike say Rivers can do so whilst still being accurate.

Would you believe......

51 minutes ago, Ghostwriter said:

Then on Tuesday he said “just some loose ends to tie up, but yeah, I’m not leaving.”

30 minutes ago, binman said:

Judd is really important player for us i reckon.

He has only recently been getting somewhere near his best this season but that is because his injuries completely derailed his season (ditto for Kolt to a lesser extent, Lindsay whose PCL meant he had a sub optimal preseason - the impact of interrupted preseasons cant be underestimated, partic for young players).

By far our biggest need is elite kicks and when on Judd is arguably our best field kick. Totally agree that Judd likey wants to play half back rather than being the main small/medium lock down defender. And like you i suspect the only reason he hasn't is the injury to AMW who was primed for the key role of small/medium lock down defender.

Judd's best position IMO is not a mid it is an attacking half back flanker that has the green light to run off his nominal opponent, be aggressive and push forward (would love him to be takin a high number of inside 50 kicks) and take on high risk kicks on transition that open up opposition's zones defences.

That role has become one of the most critical in footy given how important ball movement is atm. A player that comes to mind that plays that role super well (and a player i would love to come to the dees) is Kitty Coleman.

Definitely, he frees Bowey to play a more attacking style.

5 minutes ago, binman said:

Yep, that's a fair call. If anything Bowser's field kicking has improved this year, particularly in terms of the depth of his kicks - for a little fella he can really woof the ball and unlike say Rivers can do so whilst still being accurate.

Would you believe......

Yep,then that will allow McVee to be a running back.The dees don't exactly have alot of good kicks in the team atm

54 minutes ago, Ghostwriter said:

FWIW, last Saturday at the captain’s run Judd said that his decision on his future has nothing to do with who our head coach is/was. He said nothing has changed with the sacking of Goody, he’s always planned (and still plans) on staying. Then on Tuesday he said “just some loose ends to tie up, but yeah, I’m not leaving.”

Incidentally, I don’t ask him about his decision, he volunteers the info.

Ok, so I may’ve given him the odd death threat or two, but that was in the past. I don’t even need to give him the sideways stink-eye..: he knows. 😁

I believe you and can’t see why he would volunteer a lie to a supremely dedicated Demon fan.

I am sewing number 4 onto my Dees shirt.

31 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I believe you and can’t see why he would volunteer a lie to a supremely dedicated Demon fan.

I am sewing number 4 onto my Dees shirt.

Jack Watts ??

31 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

He's not as good

16 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Jack Watts ??

Luke Jackson

2 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

I’ve always doubted the midfield time stuff, he was playing half back for his wafl colts team when we drafted him.

What I bet he wants is to play at least half back rather than being the main lock down defender. Salem was his mentor when he came to the club and I bet he wants his spot.

Unfortunately back pocket is a big gap in our list that Richo, Lamb and the list management committee didn’t even try to fix. I guess the 3 possible candidates all got injured - AMW, Hore and Sestan. We’ve tried Howes at times, but any coach is putting McVee on a good small forward not Howes.

But it’s not like Judd is stuck in the back pocket forever, eventually we’d find a replacement and chuck him up the ground. I think the bigger reasons Judd will leave are 1) cash 2) family 3) McQualter.

McQualter was a big Judd guy. Last year we tried him up the ground more than this year. (Because we had other options). Unfortunately when you hire fresh assistants and they leave they often take guys with them. That’s how we got Melk and Hibberd after all.

West Coast are also going to absolutely ream us with the PSD threat. We’ll be lucky to get a future second. Maybe we can push the AFL to make their priority pick dependent on trading it and get a start of the second rounder. Either way it’s not a win.

I don’t think walking to the the draft threat is a valid option? Isn’t that only for RFA’s? Even so we would get compensation would we not?

Also that would be a royal middle finger to the club from McVee, which I doubt he would do.

Only way this happens is if we ask for something stupid like pick 1. I’d say Judd is worth WC’s 2nd round pick in 2026 or maybe a late 1st if they were able to get one.

I think, and hope, that he'll stay. But playing devils advocate with a trade to WA the following picks could be available at current live ladder positions...

West Coast: Picks 1, 14, 19, 32, 50. All 2026, 2027 picks

Freemantle: Picks 12, 30, 39, 48, All 2026, 2027 picks

This is obviously prior to compensation picks and slides due to academy selections.

53 minutes ago, doomsday dee said:

Luke Jackson

Jackson was #6

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

I believe you and can’t see why he would volunteer a lie to a supremely dedicated Demon fan.

I am sewing number 4 onto my Dees shirt.

I’m taking it further. I just got a ‘Judd 4eva’ neck tattoo.

3 hours ago, Jack Vineys Anger Manager said:

Players that are unhappy with the position they are asked to play, makes me think of one man.

Do what you have to do for the team. Maybe success may come along.

Oh yes…this reminds of the first half of 2021 where some on here purely looked at stats. They wanted Gus dropped every single week in the first 10 rounds or so of that year due to his low possession numbers. Little did they know.

Edited Thursday at 04:343 days by Dee Zephyr

26 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

I’m taking it further. I just got a ‘Judd 4eva’ neck tattoo.

True commitment.

6 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

West Coast have been linked to Brisbane Lions premiership hero Callum Ah Chee, according to The West Australian.

The report also linked gun Melbourne defender Judd McVee to the Eagles and Geelong veteran Mitch Duncan, who could head to Western Australia as well to finish off his AFL career.

This makes me feel like they are just throwing it in there to bulk up the story, is no other information other than he is linked to WC and Geel.

There is also no way he makes a call before the new coach is announced now. Why would you.

3 hours ago, GS_1905 said:

I don’t think walking to the the draft threat is a valid option? Isn’t that only for RFA’s? Even so we would get compensation would we not?

Walking to the psd is an option for them. We’d get nothing.

they’ll offer us something. But no way they’ll pay full value