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PRESEASON TRAINING: Wednesday 4th December 2024

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2 hours ago, Nascent said:

Would have gone with Professor for XL myself.

Or perhaps Mr Big or Biggy (for anyone who remembers the King Leonardo cartoons).

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    Folks really ought to have faith in Shane. He’s in fantastic shape, he’s been training for as long as everyone else and at the top level (Selwyn said the same). He’s in the best headspace, very buoyant and confident, it’s so nice to see. Again, he said he’ll be there in Round One. I said yeah coz Koz (see what I did there), he said that’s exactly right.

     

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    15 minutes ago, Ghostwriter said:

    Folks really ought to have faith in Shane. He’s in fantastic shape, he’s been training for as long as everyone else and at the top level (Selwyn said the same). He’s in the best headspace, very buoyant and confident, it’s so nice to see. Again, he said he’ll be there in Round One. I said yeah coz Koz (see what I did there), he said that’s exactly right.

     

    Until his actions prove it *unfortunately for him* there will be a lot of scepticism and doubt. 

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    14 minutes ago, Ghostwriter said:

    Folks really ought to have faith in Shane. He’s in fantastic shape, he’s been training for as long as everyone else and at the top level (Selwyn said the same). He’s in the best headspace, very buoyant and confident, it’s so nice to see. Again, he said he’ll be there in Round One. I said yeah coz Koz (see what I did there), he said that’s exactly right.

     

    I dont have faith in his body to withstand a AFL season, it hasnt yet and as you get older it becomes harder. But in saying that I hope it does and he finally gets fitness to AFL standard.
    As for playing R1 because of Koz doesnt make sense to me, I think they are different types of players, I think if he plays R1 it will be because he earnt it.

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    24 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

    I dont have faith in his body to withstand a AFL season, it hasnt yet and as you get older it becomes harder. But in saying that I hope it does and he finally gets fitness to AFL standard.
    As for playing R1 because of Koz doesnt make sense to me, I think they are different types of players, I think if he plays R1 it will be because he earnt it.

    Kos to miss due to tribunal….

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    Just now, buck_nekkid said:

    Kos to miss due to tribunal….

    Sorry if it didnt come across right, I know Koz is missing again, I just dont see McAdam as a player to replace Koz's role.
    To me they are different types of player.

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    1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

    Rookies replacing LTI’s is how it worked in the 90’s/00’s. These days you can just put someone on your list if you get a LTI. They go on the Inactive List and you get an extra spot.

    The deadline is about a week before the season (as SSP). With an opportunity to do the same via the mid season draft. 

    Sign him to Casey which then allows him to train with the AFL side, then see if there’s an injury/retirement before March.

    It never made sense that George would have Cat B rights for us given he’s never been in our academy. We’d have needed some kind of super special exemption. 

    I suppose if we sign him to Casey, we can sort of hold him if another club tries to take him first.

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    3 minutes ago, Redleg said:

    I suppose if we sign him to Casey, we can sort of hold him if another club tries to take him first.

    I think it's more that train on players have to be approved by the league and you either have to have a list spot that guys are working towards earning or you can have your state league club guys filling in for extra experience.

    He'd still be able to sign as an SPP for another club but clubs aren't going to just sign him out of the blue at this time of the year, they'll invite him for training if they want him. Up until the deadline where in recent years clubs have been a little poachy. Oleg Markov for instance was training with and probably about to sign with Carlton when the Pies nabbed him.

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    2 hours ago, bobby1554 said:

    Not leather poisoning

    Stole one of my lines Bobby! Ha Ha

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    A few observations. 

    Coaches are working hard. Plenty of instructions, and a variety of new drills that are making them use different skills. 

    Bounces and run, more focus on having opponents, handballs with the players getting in the way of opposition, and opponents (Jones) getting in the way of runners.

    They are happy and training with skill and high standards 

    McAdams with boots on and kicking goals. Spargo getting closer. Langford likes a goal and can kick them on the run and from a long way out. Fritta doing some training drills and extra running. Salem has already dropped a few kilos. Melky in an orange bib during sims (the only one), and connecting through the middle and then hitting up with some beautiful kicks. Tackling in handball game was ferocious, I worried about them at times. Bowey was in with the backs when in their lines but matched up against Windsor on the wing in the sims. The other wing side had Billings and Langdon. 

    Tracc playing with some flair, his field kicking has also improved. 

    Oliver was trying to dance around opponents but got caught a few times. 

    Edited by kev martin

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    As the boys came off after training they were met with a camera on a tripod above which was a note that said “What’s on your Xmas wish-list?” Expect some frivolity on the MFC website, I suppose. 

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    Thanks to all you lucky training reporters, best media on Dee’s is really amongst ourselves. The positivity of this and Monday’s threads is very refreshing, well done everybody, I luv ya’s all fellow Dee’s supporters.

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    Thanks WJ, WayneWussell, Fritta and Turner Ghost Writer, Kev Martin and all posters for their great reports special comments and posts. Sounds like another great training day for the boys, would have been warm and humid out on the track.😁👍

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    Thanks to all for the track report s.   Breakfast is great.

    Well worth reading, read it all twice,   go Dee's 

     

    Edited by 640MD
    Twice

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    6 minutes ago, DeeZone said:

    would have been warm and humid out on the track.😁👍

    The weather wasn't too bad. Barely any breeze and the temp was fine during their run.

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    3 hours ago, Fritta and Turner said:

    Once again a very pleasant day watching the training with a full squad in attendance.  It took me ages to find Jed Adams until the boys started yelling Jed Jed Jed (dead give away) and i realised he was in a No number Jumper.

    No Kalani White but Toby Sinnema was there.

    Lever, Spargo, McAdam, Lindsay and Fritter in rehab ie not taking part in all the drills.  They did a separate drill and then on the bikes and running the boundary. Don't know whats wrong with Fritta but it aint running.

    Lever dragged the bike to the boundary line and yelled encouragement, and you better be encouraged ok!!!!

    AMW did a great block on the Kolt and a fantastic tackle on Viney.

    Maysie gives instructions to the backs with a flick of a hand and guess what, seems to position well and find space.

    Langford has a first and 2nd effort and seems to instinctively know where the ball is in a contest.  He also looks like Turner but with curls.

    AJ ready to go and is strong at it.

    Kynan shows plenty of run and dash.

    Hore wacked his knee cap on the ground, a minor cut, and had some strapping as a precaution.

    Tracca had the cap with a 'sun shade' on the back.  (Reminds me of the cartoons I watched years ago).  Moving well.

    Sharpie looked er sharp and got lots of vocal support from his team mates.

    Campbell looks like he is enjoying it.

    Max and Clarrie were gassed at time.  Clarrie did not participate in the match sim at the end.  I think Kynan pulled out early.

    Not many track watchers as last time but the number grew to 60+.

     

    You'd think a father/son player would know better.

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    1 minute ago, kev martin said:

    The weather wasn't too bad. Barely any breeze and the temp was fine during their run.

    Don’t believe Kev, y’all. It was freaking hot. 🥵

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    5 hours ago, Dee*ceiving said:

    Like an unwanted bowel movement? 

    If your male and over 65. You should never trust a fart,

    How old is he ?

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    2 hours ago, Gorgoroth said:

    I dont have faith in his body to withstand a AFL season, it hasnt yet and as you get older it becomes harder. But in saying that I hope it does and he finally gets fitness to AFL standard.
    As for playing R1 because of Koz doesnt make sense to me, I think they are different types of players, I think if he plays R1 it will be because he earnt it.

    Yes….5 years on AFL lists and still not fit. Doesn’t bode well….

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    51 minutes ago, kev martin said:

    A few observations. 

     

    McAdams with boots on and kicking goals. Spargo getting closer. Langford likes a goal and can kick them on the run and from a long way out. 

    Who trained better Kev, McAdams, Gawns, Olivers, Vineys or Billings ?

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    When Clarry was boundary running with Campbell, he was belching . Perhaps he had an upset stomach.

    Wasn't the temperature in the low 20's. I was in the shade most of the time, and comfortable. @Ghostwriter

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    23 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

    Who trained better Kev, McAdams, Gawns, Olivers, Vineys or Billings ?

    McAdams is still on light duties.

    Gawn is getting more involved with the leadership role, He is in cruise mode.

    Oliver is trying hard.

    Viney is excelling and isbest by a far distance, also, atending every session so far.

    Billings is looking very good. Running hard, getting plenty of ball and with good disposals. Back to the club in great shape.

     

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    9 hours ago, binman said:

    Sharp to the wing?

    Can't see that personally.

    The more likely role I would have thought is a direct replacement for  nibbla.

    The wing role is very similar in terms of arc to arc running, but is much more offensive, particularly the opposite wing to Langdon, who has been more defensive than most wingers.

    If Sharp went to the wing he'd be replacing Windsor, who was much more offensive than langers and was an important element in our attacking transition and how we entered our 50

    Does Sharp have the right set of skills to replace Windsor?

    And if there's any thought of XL going to the wing when he eventually comes into the side it doesn't make much sense for Sharp to warm his spot. Better for him to play HHF from the get go and make the role his own.

    I suspect, given Bowser told me at training that he might get some wing time, he's a more likely candidate to play on the wing in the first third of the season.

    Couldn’t agree more mate inc Bowser info I think that makes so much sense! 

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    3 hours ago, Ghostwriter said:

    Folks really ought to have faith in Shane. He’s in fantastic shape, he’s been training for as long as everyone else and at the top level (Selwyn said the same). He’s in the best headspace, very buoyant and confident, it’s so nice to see. Again, he said he’ll be there in Round One. I said yeah coz Koz (see what I did there), he said that’s exactly right.

     

    Couldn’t of said it better myself — again, I expect BIG things from him this year and many will be nibbling some humble-like pie

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    I don’t know if this has been asked before, but does anyone who’s been attending these training sessions, have any insights into how Chunk is adapting to the coaching lark, and if it appears that he’s changing up the way things are done in the midfield?  I know we mostly get observations on players, so I was thinking it’d be nice to get an idea of what is going on from a coaching point of view.

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