The Draft Pick Upgrade Thread

[durango 2,023]

By the way Farris-White is a B rookie

 

[spirit of norm smith 16,615]

7 minutes ago, Kolt 39 said:

We have lost 8 players from the 2024 list. Gus, ANB, Hunter, Schache, Smith, B.Brown, Tomlinson and Farris-White. Even if we pick up a couple Rookie/PSD's need around 4- 5 more from trade / draft. As an example I can see them possibly trading with GWS to split pick 9 across 15 and 21 and Derksen as a play. And then on trading 5 and one of 15 or 21 to secure 2 and 25. Then MFC have 2, 21, 25  for instance to go along with Sharp and Derksen. Just an example but something suggests Cal Twomey expecting MFC hasn't finished trying to move up draft board further.

Also we have Campbell so 7 spots left now

Wow. AFL list management. An Actuarial degree is required 

Edited October 14, 2024 by spirit of norm smith
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[durango 2,023]

Here is a left field idea trade pick 9 for Bailey Smith?

[layzie 34,326]

I was excited about Sharp. I'm surprised we gave up 40, 46 and 54 as a couple of those might have helped get it done. Stoked with 5 and 9 but would have liked to keep some bargaining chips. 

[DeeSpencer 26,266]

19 minutes ago, OhMyDees said:

Saints get Pick 8 for Battle we get NOTHING for losing Brayshaw. AFL compensation is a joke!

Who’s Gus playing for next year?

[DeeSpencer 26,266]

If North get 13 and are a live chance of Houston…

 

2 and 13

for 5 and 9 please! 

[Deespicable 2,886]

35 minutes ago, Garbo said:

Outside only taking 2 players at the draft or upgrading rookies for the remaining spots can anyone explain why we had to trade absolutely everything for pick 9 surely keeping a few other picks would have been useful for some other trades or someone who falls through in the draft 

I suspect JT felt the draft top end extended to about pick 15 (including Ashcroft and Kako) and as a result we were heavily into getting pick 13 from the Suns, but they were considering a few options.

When Tim Lamb realised Essendon would be willing to part with pick 9 - thereby negating any Kako early bid worries, they were willing to offload provided a club could stump up enough points - which we did via getting Adelaide's third rounder in exchange for our future one. The Crows were very generous and helpful this draft period - probably felt guilty for the McAdam deal!

As to why we needed pick 9 - it gives us the chance to draft both the best mid/fwd still available (O'Sullivan, Lalor or Reid) and also the best tall options (Striking Viking or Harry Armstrong).

And that in turn with Windsor and Tholstrop should help secure our future beyond this current down cycle.

Yes it means both the Sharp and Derksen deals may not go ahead - although we still have pick 49 so at least one of them will get done.

[DeeSpencer 26,266]

53 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

Found an article quickly that mentions it:

"AFL rules force clubs to use three picks at the national draft but these spots can also be filled by upgraded rookies or by clubs re-selecting delisted players if they choose."

How many picks your club is set to use at the 2022 NAB AFL Draft

I'm not sure what you mean about the years comment? I have been reading for quite a long time, it probably is in the years by now, but have only recently taken the leap into trying to contribute and discuss.

You can upgrade rookies and the draft never ends. So if you want you can trade picks in rounds 1-4 and use 5,6,7 to pick players.

But we’ll upgrade a rookie and use 2 early picks as it currently stands. It’s not a problem. 

[The Taciturn Demon 604]

1 minute ago, DeeSpencer said:

2 and 13

for 5 and 9 please! 

Who is the player you think Taylor would be keen to skip three places to take at two?

[Kolt 39 24]

7 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

My gut feel is we will look at delisted players/delisted free agents on short contracts to fill gaps.

Yes absolutely an option. Will be interesting to see if JT prefers 5 and 9 or if prefers to get higher up to secure a certain player he prefers over others and gain an additional later pick inside 25. 3 x top 25 instead of 2 x top 10. Either way I back in the decision they make and look forward to next season.

[biggestred 5,237]

gary rohan?

[ANB Fan Boy 8]

1 hour ago, Kolt 39 said:

We have lost 8 players from the 2024 list. Gus, ANB, Hunter, Schache, Smith, B.Brown, Tomlinson and Farris-White. Even if we pick up a couple Rookie/PSD's need around 4- 5 more from trade / draft. As an example I can see them possibly trading with GWS to split pick 9 across 15 and 21 and Derksen as a play. And then on trading 5 and one of 15 or 21 to secure 2 and 25. Then MFC have 2, 21, 25  for instance to go along with Sharp and Derksen. Just an example but something suggests Cal Twomey expecting MFC hasn't finished trying to move up draft board further.

Also we have Campbell so 7 spots left now

What did or are we getting for Tomlinson, also who is going too or have we just delisted him?

[picket fence 17,964]

7 minutes ago, biggestred said:

gary rohan?

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[Kolt 39 24]

21 minutes ago, ANB Fan Boy said:

What did or are we getting for Tomlinson, also who is going too or have we just delisted him?

Nothing yet he is one of the players in limbo as remains unsigned UFA was reports back in August he would walk from MFC though.

[DeeSpencer 26,266]

1 hour ago, The Taciturn Demon said:

Who is the player you think Taylor would be keen to skip three places to take at two?

Langford/Lalor fit the mold for the mids we like a lot more than the other top rated guys

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,477]

1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

If North get 13 and are a live chance of Houston…

 

2 and 13

for 5 and 9 please! 

Who are tigers taking at 1 do you think?

[Young Blood 2,639]

12 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Langford/Lalor fit the mold for the mids we like a lot more than the other top rated guys

I think those two are the most likely out of the predicted top 6 to fall to us

I can't see Lalor going in the first 5 picks with the injury issues/fitness/lack of motor and preseason

I can't see Langford going ahead of the faster more skilled Smith, FOS and Draper

So if those two you suggested are who we are targeting I don't think its worth the risk to trade up when one of them is likely to fall to us at 6

[spirit of norm smith 16,615]

Agree. Keep 5 & 9.  Hold !!! We will have two guns available at these picks.  Sure they become 7 & 11 with Ashcroft & Lombard bidding and matching going early.  

[old55 23,833]

2 hours ago, Kolt 39 said:

We have lost 8 players from the 2024 list. Gus, ANB, Hunter, Schache, Smith, B.Brown, Tomlinson and Farris-White. Even if we pick up a couple Rookie/PSD's need around 4- 5 more from trade / draft. As an example I can see them possibly trading with GWS to split pick 9 across 15 and 21 and Derksen as a play. And then on trading 5 and one of 15 or 21 to secure 2 and 25. Then MFC have 2, 21, 25  for instance to go along with Sharp and Derksen. Just an example but something suggests Cal Twomey expecting MFC hasn't finished trying to move up draft board further.

Also we have Campbell so 7 spots left now

Good post but we've actually currently only got 4 vacancies, not 7.

KFW doesn't count because he was a B Rookie, Mentha may fill that slot. That’s 6.

Kentfield arrived mid season as a Rookie for Gus and McVee has been promoted so that's another off your 7. That's 5.

Tomlinson hasn't gone yet. That's 4.

[old55 23,833]

If Derksen doesn't come which looks likely, I think we'll need to keep one of Tomlinson or Hore.

Tomlinson gets a bit of a bad rap, he's almost never injured, never drops his head at Casey, comes in a plays a role when needed. It seems like he's good for "kulcha".

He'd only get a year and can probably get more elsewhere so we may end up renewing Hore.

[Nascent 9,320]

I wonder if we will do a small slide for an extra pick? Last year we saw clubs throwing an extra second round pick to move up one spot on draft night. 

Could we perhaps convince Richmond to do 9 for picks 10 and 24? The incentive for Richmond would be the risk of another team coming for our pick with another offer.

[adonski 12,903]

2 minutes ago, Nascent said:

I wonder if we will do a small slide for an extra pick? Last year we saw clubs throwing an extra second round pick to move up one spot on draft night. 

Could we perhaps convince Richmond to do 9 for picks 10 and 24? The incentive for Richmond would be the risk of another team coming for our pick with another offer.

Hoping that's the case, while p5 and 9 is exciting, were sacrificing our depth by burning so many picks every year

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,240]

Any chance we can trade Tomlinson to Collingwood for a future 4th rounder rather than letting him walk as a delisted FA.

I'd actually rather keep him as you can never have enough depth and he'll give you a solid 6/10 performance most weeks when he's recalled to the seniors?

 

[DeeSpencer 26,266]

44 minutes ago, Young Blood said:

I think those two are the most likely out of the predicted top 6 to fall to us

I can't see Lalor going in the first 5 picks with the injury issues/fitness/lack of motor and preseason

I can't see Langford going ahead of the faster more skilled Smith, FOS and Draper

So if those two you suggested are who we are targeting I don't think its worth the risk to trade up when one of them is likely to fall to us at 6

Lalor’s been linked stronger to Richmond than anyone else so far. It’s all very Cam Rayner but I reckon he goes top 3. His skill for a powerful beast type is rare. 

Smith is neither skilled nor fast. Draper’s skills didn’t stand up at SANFL level.

And the more I watch of FOS - who I like more than Smith and Draper - the more I worry about his inside ball winning and his kicking. His overhead marking is just special stuff, but he might end up a hybrid half forward more than a pure midfielder.

[jules7 801]

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

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Can’t stand him and never want to see him at our club