This is getting out of hand

  On 21/09/2024 at 08:20, Sir Why You Little said:

FTA is dying quite quickly actually 

that’s why jobs are shedding weekly 

So the next few years will be fascinating 

Fans don’t want a Night Granny 

I don't disagree but footy & rugby league is not going 100% cable or streaming in a hurry

You talk as if all the commercial networks will fold within months

Not going to happen despite all your doom & gloom.  For instance, the current AFL broadcast deal extends to 2030.  And that includes 4 FTA games per week plus all the finals.  Same deal for the NRL

  On 21/09/2024 at 08:14, whatwhat say what said:

that's not permitted by the govt via the anti-siphoning laws

So do the anti-siphoning laws save the TV networks? 

This is getting ugly.

Where is Cam Rayner?

Ha ha

This thread is usually 90% about the umpiring!!!

Don't worry, you'll get your chance to vent soon enough!

  On 21/09/2024 at 08:23, The heart beats true said:

Does Cam Raynors contract exclude him from September?

So does one kick Hipwood what a dud

Bailey should have kicked his goals. Geelong took every opportunity and Brisbane didn’t.

Football Gods - Brisbane could use a hand right now.

  On 21/09/2024 at 08:25, Macca said:

So do the anti-siphoning laws save the TV networks? 

when in doubt, open-ai it...

Australia's **anti-siphoning laws** are designed to ensure that significant sporting events, particularly those with widespread public interest, remain accessible on **free-to-air television** rather than being exclusively broadcast on **subscription services** like Foxtel. These laws prevent pay-TV operators from acquiring broadcast rights to certain listed events before free-to-air broadcasters have had the chance to bid.

### Key Points for **AFL**, **NRL**, and Other Sports:
1. **AFL and NRL**:
   - **AFL Grand Final**: Must be shown live on free-to-air television.
   - **NRL Grand Final**: Similarly, the NRL Grand Final must also be broadcast live on free-to-air TV.
   - **Other matches**: While not all games are protected, many significant matches during the finals or specific key rounds are on the anti-siphoning list, ensuring some level of free access.

2. **Other Major Sports**:
   - **Cricket**: Test matches involving the Australian team played in Australia, as well as the Ashes series and World Cup matches, are often on the list.
   - **Olympics and Commonwealth Games**: Major events from these competitions are generally covered.
   - **Tennis (Australian Open)**: Key finals matches are usually protected by the anti-siphoning rules.
   - **FIFA World Cup**: Matches featuring the Australian team and the final must be available on free-to-air.

### Impact on Free-to-Air TV:
- **Exclusive Rights**: Free-to-air broadcasters, like Channels Seven, Nine, and Ten, have the first opportunity to acquire the rights to broadcast these protected events.
- **Shared Rights**: In some cases, free-to-air networks may share rights with pay-TV networks, resulting in both broadcasting the event.

### Limitations:
- Not every game in the AFL or NRL seasons is covered by these laws, so many regular-season matches can still be exclusive to pay-TV services like Foxtel or Kayo.
- The list is subject to change, and the government can modify which events are protected based on shifts in public interest or media landscape changes.

In short, these laws help ensure that some of the biggest sporting events in Australia, including key AFL and NRL matches, remain free to the public rather than hidden behind a paywall.

In the context of Australia's **anti-siphoning laws**, "other matches" typically refers to specific high-profile or significant games during the **AFL** and **NRL** seasons that are not the Grand Finals but are still deemed important enough to be on the anti-siphoning list. The list is designed to ensure that these key games are available on free-to-air television before pay-TV services can acquire the rights.

### Examples of "Other Matches" in AFL and NRL:
1. **AFL**:
   - **AFL Finals Series**: Matches in the final series leading up to the Grand Final are usually included on the anti-siphoning list.
   - **Anzac Day Game**: The annual blockbuster match between Collingwood and Essendon on Anzac Day is often protected.
   - **Brownlow Medal Presentation**: Though not a match, this major AFL event is listed for free-to-air coverage.
   - **State of Origin (if revived)**: Any potential AFL State of Origin matches may also be protected.

2. **NRL**:
   - **State of Origin Series**: All three matches in the annual State of Origin series between New South Wales and Queensland are typically protected.
   - **NRL Finals Series**: As with the AFL, the NRL Finals leading up to the Grand Final are usually included.
   - **Anzac Day Clash**: The traditional Anzac Day match between the Sydney Roosters and St. George Illawarra Dragons is often listed.
   
### Not Every Game is Protected:
- Regular season matches for both the **AFL** and **NRL** are generally **not covered** by the anti-siphoning list, meaning pay-TV broadcasters like Foxtel can secure exclusive rights to air them.
  
### Non-AFL/NRL Sports:
"Other matches" for sports outside the AFL and NRL typically include key finals or major event rounds for sports like cricket, tennis, and soccer. These could include:
   - **Australian Open Tennis Finals**
   - **FIFA World Cup Qualifiers** involving the Australian national team
   - **Cricket World Cup** matches (especially involving Australia)

The government defines these matches on the list each year, so what is classified as "other matches" can vary depending on updates to the anti-siphoning rules.

Our Forward system is miles off this well oiled Geelong system.

Edited September 21, 2024Sep 21 by YesitwasaWin4theAges

I would give anything to have Chris Scott as Melbourne’s head coach next year.

This mob was a 7-8 side at best at the start of the year.

Absolutely gets the best out of his players at his disposal and clearly has a system that can stand up in September.

Well, Shannon Noll just sung that 7 Sports is free for all. FTA must be staying around for yet a little while. 

  On 21/09/2024 at 08:31, whatwhat say what said:

when in doubt, open-ai it...

Australia's **anti-siphoning laws** are designed to ensure that significant sporting events, particularly those with widespread public interest, remain accessible on **free-to-air television** rather than being exclusively broadcast on **subscription services** like Foxtel. These laws prevent pay-TV operators from acquiring broadcast rights to certain listed events before free-to-air broadcasters have had the chance to bid.

### Key Points for **AFL**, **NRL**, and Other Sports:
1. **AFL and NRL**:
   - **AFL Grand Final**: Must be shown live on free-to-air television.
   - **NRL Grand Final**: Similarly, the NRL Grand Final must also be broadcast live on free-to-air TV.
   - **Other matches**: While not all games are protected, many significant matches during the finals or specific key rounds are on the anti-siphoning list, ensuring some level of free access.

2. **Other Major Sports**:
   - **Cricket**: Test matches involving the Australian team played in Australia, as well as the Ashes series and World Cup matches, are often on the list.
   - **Olympics and Commonwealth Games**: Major events from these competitions are generally covered.
   - **Tennis (Australian Open)**: Key finals matches are usually protected by the anti-siphoning rules.
   - **FIFA World Cup**: Matches featuring the Australian team and the final must be available on free-to-air.

### Impact on Free-to-Air TV:
- **Exclusive Rights**: Free-to-air broadcasters, like Channels Seven, Nine, and Ten, have the first opportunity to acquire the rights to broadcast these protected events.
- **Shared Rights**: In some cases, free-to-air networks may share rights with pay-TV networks, resulting in both broadcasting the event.

### Limitations:
- Not every game in the AFL or NRL seasons is covered by these laws, so many regular-season matches can still be exclusive to pay-TV services like Foxtel or Kayo.
- The list is subject to change, and the government can modify which events are protected based on shifts in public interest or media landscape changes.

In short, these laws help ensure that some of the biggest sporting events in Australia, including key AFL and NRL matches, remain free to the public rather than hidden behind a paywall.

In the context of Australia's **anti-siphoning laws**, "other matches" typically refers to specific high-profile or significant games during the **AFL** and **NRL** seasons that are not the Grand Finals but are still deemed important enough to be on the anti-siphoning list. The list is designed to ensure that these key games are available on free-to-air television before pay-TV services can acquire the rights.

### Examples of "Other Matches" in AFL and NRL:
1. **AFL**:
   - **AFL Finals Series**: Matches in the final series leading up to the Grand Final are usually included on the anti-siphoning list.
   - **Anzac Day Game**: The annual blockbuster match between Collingwood and Essendon on Anzac Day is often protected.
   - **Brownlow Medal Presentation**: Though not a match, this major AFL event is listed for free-to-air coverage.
   - **State of Origin (if revived)**: Any potential AFL State of Origin matches may also be protected.

2. **NRL**:
   - **State of Origin Series**: All three matches in the annual State of Origin series between New South Wales and Queensland are typically protected.
   - **NRL Finals Series**: As with the AFL, the NRL Finals leading up to the Grand Final are usually included.
   - **Anzac Day Clash**: The traditional Anzac Day match between the Sydney Roosters and St. George Illawarra Dragons is often listed.
   
### Not Every Game is Protected:
- Regular season matches for both the **AFL** and **NRL** are generally **not covered** by the anti-siphoning list, meaning pay-TV broadcasters like Foxtel can secure exclusive rights to air them.
  
### Non-AFL/NRL Sports:
"Other matches" for sports outside the AFL and NRL typically include key finals or major event rounds for sports like cricket, tennis, and soccer. These could include:
   - **Australian Open Tennis Finals**
   - **FIFA World Cup Qualifiers** involving the Australian national team
   - **Cricket World Cup** matches (especially involving Australia)

The government defines these matches on the list each year, so what is classified as "other matches" can vary depending on updates to the anti-siphoning rules.

Fair enough but that also means that FTA is somewhat saved by the anti-siphoning laws

So it's business as usual except the FTA networks need to find ways to operate profitably

Slashing staff numbers for starters. Investing less in local drama etc etc.  Not great news but business is business

Come on, Brisbane! Bad enough having Swans in the GF. Sick of the Cats.

  On 21/09/2024 at 08:21, Macca said:

I'm not convinced that advertisers aren't paying a premium for Friday & Saturday evening NRL & AFL

Sunday 3.20pm looks like it's being phased out but again, that can be related to the advertising dollar

 

They’re not because Friday & Saturday evenings aren’t a big audience. 
 

networks love sports like AFL & tennis because they’re a baseline & draw a consistent audience. That’s why they spend so much on the rights. And then they use the sports programming to pre-promote other programming in their networks.   But compared buying spots in The Block, AFL games are comparatively cheap.  
 

 

Come on Brisbane. Lift. 

  On 21/09/2024 at 08:26, Jibroni said:

This is getting ugly.

Where is Cam Rayner?

And Morris, Ah-Chee and Hipwood.

Problem could be if it’s close, Lions will feel the pinch late, after a tough Semi last week.

Not helped with big Mc injury, now effectively useless and Lions haven’t scored since.

Maybe get Oscar Mc off and ruck Joe and Eric.

At least they will have another runner.

Edited September 21, 2024Sep 21 by Redleg

  On 21/09/2024 at 08:19, Moonshadow said:

Luke Darcy is a terrible commentator, gets names wrong regularly at critical moments

And apparently Stewart maybe the best versatile player ever. Amazing.

  On 21/09/2024 at 08:32, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Our Forward system is miles off this well oiled Geelong system.

Yet people think Goodwin is the messiah, and Petty is Royce Hart. And yes I know its not his fault but plenty on this site still have him playing forward in 2025! Park me!

Edited September 21, 2024Sep 21 by picket fence

  On 21/09/2024 at 08:34, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I would give anything to have Chris Scott as Melbourne’s head coach next year.

This mob was a 7-8 side at best at the start of the year.

Absolutely gets the best out of his players at his disposal and clearly has a system that can stand up in September.

they went 7-0 to start the season, didn't they, before we beat them?

they've basically been top 4 all year

they go orright

Eh I'm sick of Geelong being so good all the time. 

  On 21/09/2024 at 08:38, Macca said:

Fair enough but that also means that FTA is somewhat saved by the anti-siphoning laws

So it's business as usual except the FTA networks need to find ways to operate profitably

Slashing staff numbers for starters. Investing less in local drama etc etc.  Not great news but business is business

fta networks - via the companies that own them - have been shedding staff for a decade

they basically don't make local drama

they buy sports rights and make 'reality' garbage

Great goal Ah Chee. Great goalsneak 

OK keep going Brisbane. Kick the next couple.

I know he's had to go in the ruck but I knew daniher wouldn't contribute much

Real shame the Giants choked. They had a style to beat the Cats easily.