Maybe he was told to stay away today.
The whole situation is a very public middle finger to Max, Jack, and the club.
I did notice that Jack did the "trac flex" after he kicked his goal today. I don't think that was a coincidence.

5 hours ago, Skuit said:

I like Trac's proactive approach. Unhappy with our direction so he goes out and recruits Lauchie Neale. Should make for a decent ANB replacement. 

Now your talking!

if he is to go, i am very curious to see who on earth could put a package that is worth it for us

i can't see him being willing to leave victoria, so that already limits the scope of players

someone like the peptides would love him, no doubt, but there's no way a package of parish, wright, 2024 and 2025 1st round picks would cut it for mine - but that's the sort of package likely that would need to put together, primarily cos it's not just 'value for trac' but 'salary cap management'

he's on over $1m a year for the next five years...there's no free agents that we can throw exorbitant cap space at to square the ledger

i just can't see how it can happen

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2 hours ago, KozzyCan said:

Steven May?

Maysie’s partner is due to give birth any day now, she’s already overdue. He’s hardly gonna travel interstate thereby risking missing the birth all for nothing since he can’t play anyways. 

On what planet does this trade get done. 5 years left on his contract with us. Only cellar dwellers with the currency to satisfy us in any deal. He’s going nowhere. Fences will be mended in the off season and trac will be lining up for us in rd1 2025. Chill the [censored] our DL.

3 hours ago, Jack Vineys Anger Manager said:

Maybe he was told to stay away today.
The whole situation is a very public middle finger to Max, Jack, and the club.
I did notice that Jack did the "trac flex" after he kicked his goal today. I don't think that was a coincidence.

Tracc wasn’t told to stay away. He chose to stay away.

Spargz is on crutches and Clarrie’s recently had surgery but they were both there. The Casey match today was just awful but those boys stayed around for the remainder of the day. It would’ve been nice for Tracc to have made the effort if for no reason other than to be there for what was very likely BBB’s last game. 😢

 

 

Edited August 17, 20241 yr by WalkingCivilWar

8 hours ago, DubDee said:

Why didn’t Trac travel?

He just started WALKING around the Tan last week. He hasn’t been to games in Melbourne. Why TF would he go to this one?

 

He was at the game last week 

8 hours ago, John Demonic said:

Saints will get josh battle compo and have Picks 5, 6, 23 and Future picks by the look of it. Tracc at the Saints: Flag Kilda 2025. 

if he does leave which I hope he doesn’t, I hope we ask for King as part of the deal. 

8 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

Are you saying it’s one or the other? 

I feel the same about Clarry and Petracca, their relationship feels like completely fallen from grace.

Maybe Petracca has told the team it's him or me but not both?

 

8 hours ago, McVeezyLikeASundayMorning said:

I really feel for Trac, and this situation seems impossible to fairly judge without all the information. I’m sure there’s a lot going on behind closed doors. I do think it’s pretty hard not to read something into this, but I think some compassion for Trac is definitely needed here. He’s been through a hellish experience, the club would have lost a lot of his trust in the way it was handled, and his distancing himself could just be his way of protecting himself from reliving all the trauma. We’ve been told he’s dissatisfied with the “direction” the club’s going in - notably not with Goody - which to me sounds like an excuse more than anything. He’s hurt, and he just can’t deal with us right now … that’s my highly speculative take, anyway! I hope the club’s  taking his mental health seriously because I get the sense that minimising what he’s been through in any way would be the final straw.

Sorry to say but hard to feel for him when he clearly is acting selfish and not the leader he is supposed to be.

I bet if you do a survey among the Dees supporters most will be disappointed in him.

Very sad that probably the most beloved player in our list falls from grace in a blink of an eye. This hurts even more as many kids love the guy.

As shown we have the talent to play well without Trac and Oliver. Might get some value on the trade table to set us up for the next ten years. Then again, will any of them stay long with our poor culture.

The pile on re Tracc is so poor.  I hope with all his free time he doesn’t get on demonland.

No one knows what his health status is and whether his immune system is fully recovered. It’s very different heading up to Noosa for recovery for a few weeks escaping the winter cesspool compared to jumping onto a plane full of germs twice in a couple of days to be at a game.

4 minutes ago, Watson11 said:

The pile on re Tracc is so poor.  I hope with all his free time he doesn’t get on demonland.

No one knows what his health status is and whether his immune system is fully recovered. It’s very different heading up to Noosa for recovery for a few weeks escaping the winter cesspool compared to jumping onto a plane full of germs twice in a couple of days to be at a game.

We don't ask him to fly to the GC, but at least post something like May.

Yesterday was all about the team.

As some other have said before, after all the noise this week his silence is deafening.

12 hours ago, Demonsone said:

What is the reason why Trac didn’t travel with the team, I thought maybe due to his spleen and unsafe to travel? 

Didn't stop him from going to Noosa.

It's not like he doesn't know his way around social media. Not hard to like a post about the win, etc.

To think many had him penned as our next captain. This underhanded sads-cracking shows he's miles off that calibre.

• Collingwood 2018 lost Grand Final
• Collingwood 2019 lost Preliminary Final
• Collingwood 2020 lost Semi Final
• Collingwood 2021 finished 17th
• Collingwood 2022 lost Preliminary Final

That's worse than our 2021-2024 stretch.

Players like De Goey and Crisp in the media for the wrong reasons during that time too.

Did we hear a word from Pendlebury? No. He got on with it.

In 2023 they're Premiers.

Trac was a Collingwood supporter growing up. Perhaps he should look at Pendlebury.

6 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Tracc wasn’t told to stay away. He chose to stay away.

Spargz is on crutches and Clarrie’s recently had surgery but they were both there. The Casey match today was just awful but those boys stayed around for the remainder of the day. It would’ve been nice for Tracc to have made the effort if for no reason other than to be there for what was very likely BBB’s last game. 😢

 

 

As per my previous post, I’m as disappointed as much as anyone that he chose not to travel, however is it conceivable that traveling would have opened him up to being door stopped on multiple occasions or is that nonsense?

6 minutes ago, seventyfour said:

• Collingwood 2018 lost Grand Final
• Collingwood 2019 lost Preliminary Final
• Collingwood 2020 lost Semi Final
• Collingwood 2021 finished 17th
• Collingwood 2022 lost Preliminary Final

That's worse than our 2021-2024 stretch.

Players like De Goey and Crisp in the media for the wrong reasons during that time too.

Did we hear a word from Pendlebury? No. He got on with it.

In 2023 they're Premiers.

Trac was a Collingwood supporter growing up. Perhaps he should look at Pendlebury.

If you consider they won in 2023. How can that be worse to our 2022-2024 stint?

We didn't even win one single final. Wrong topic anyway.

8 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

As per my previous post, I’m as disappointed as much as anyone that he chose not to travel, however is it conceivable that traveling would have opened him up to being door stopped on multiple occasions or is that nonsense?

Then put a post up celebrating the win. He’s chasing a trade, little doubt in my mind now. I believe teams are  professional enough to mend bridges and that’s what may well happen and he’ll stay. However if he does demand a trade then we need to play hardball. He’s 2 top 10 picks and a high second rounder/solid 24-26 year old midfielder who plays for us round 1. Anything less and no deal. I’m also of the mind that if he does go we need change at the top. This should never have got to this point. (This may just be my disappointment with the situation bubbling over)

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1 minute ago, Roost it far said:

Then put a post up celebrating the win. He’s chasing a trade, little doubt in my mind now. I believe teams are  professional enough to mend bridges and that’s what may well happen and he’ll stay. However if he does demand a trade then we need to play hardball. He’s 2 top 10 picks and a high second rounder/solid 24-26 year old midfielder who plays for us round 1. Anything less and no deal. 

And they can pay all his ****n salary.

Actually, I think Trac not posting club related content is the right path. 

1 minute ago, Roost it far said:

Then put a post up celebrating the win. He’s chasing a trade, little doubt in my mind now. I believe teams are  professional enough to mend bridges and that’s what may well happen and he’ll stay. However if he does demand a trade then we need to play hardball. He’s 2 top 10 picks and a high second rounder/solid 24-26 year old midfielder who plays for us round 1. Anything less and no deal. 

As to his lack of travel - maybe he has critical medical appointments - who knows.   But I agree his lack of congratulating the team on the win is a bad sign.  But would it actually go down well with any team he might be hoping to join?   Might be more going on than any of us knows.

1 minute ago, Clintosaurus said:

Actually, I think Trac not posting club related content is the right path. 

How so?

25 minutes ago, Watson11 said:

The pile on re Tracc is so poor.  I hope with all his free time he doesn’t get on demonland.

No one knows what his health status is and whether his immune system is fully recovered. It’s very different heading up to Noosa for recovery for a few weeks escaping the winter cesspool compared to jumping onto a plane full of germs twice in a couple of days to be at a game.

Agree 100%

Other than a handful of posters like you, it is starting to feel like a lynch mob around here;:  no facts, no evidence just innuendo and speculation.  And forget about 'innocent till proven guilty'. 

The issues seem to be that he hasn't:

• refuted the rumour he wants out ipsofacto it must be true.  Perhaps he and the club have agreed it is best if he doesn't say anything.  Let's face it, if he did there is a fair chance it would be misconstrued to feed a narrative.
• shown leadership.  Maybe wanting to change the club for the better he is showing leadership.
• shown loyalty to the club because the rumour became public.   Maybe he isn't responsible for the leak.
• gone to the GC.  As you suggest his immune system may not be up to it.  He may have had a health relapse recently.  He may not want to be confronted by media putting a microphone in his face at the airport, the ground thus looking after his emotional health etc.
• put out or react to social media about the win yesterday.  Maybe he sent a msg to the team on an intra club chat group and liked those posted by teammates/the club on that private network.

It is true I'm making assumptions.  Assumptions that are equally if not more plausible than the behaviours people are condemning him for.

The important thing is he and Pert are talking so it isn't that he has no contact with the club/teammates.  imv that is all we need to know at this stage. 

 

18 minutes ago, seventyfour said:

• Collingwood 2018 lost Grand Final
• Collingwood 2019 lost Preliminary Final
• Collingwood 2020 lost Semi Final
• Collingwood 2021 finished 17th
• Collingwood 2022 lost Preliminary Final

That's worse than our 2021-2024 stretch.

Players like De Goey and Crisp in the media for the wrong reasons during that time too.

Did we hear a word from Pendlebury? No. He got on with it.

In 2023 they're Premiers.

Trac was a Collingwood supporter growing up. Perhaps he should look at Pendlebury.

They changed coach and president over that time because of the fall out of the racism scandal. Pendlebury didn't have to do anything because the club took action.