For those interested, here is Simon Goodwin's latest press conference.

Make of it what you will. He believes he is confident things can be turned around. Unfortunately, as the losses mount, time will be against him.

13 hours ago, rjay said:

Stat reader...

Not sure what Buckley said on his show tonight but was on the money this morning with his comment that we don't look a happy team.

That's what it's really all about, this is not a unified group at the moment.

Lyon would also know. He's got the ear of a few.

16 minutes ago, Supreme_Demon said:

For those interested, here is Simon Goodwin's latest press conference.

Make of it what you will. He believes he is confident things can be turned around. Unfortunately, as the losses mount, time will be against him.

I thought that was good. He sounds confident

He is not panicking (not there anyway)

1 minute ago, Superunknown said:

I thought that was good. He sounds confident

He is not panicking (not there anyway)

Yes, that's true.

Simon Goodwin seems confident and steadfast.

I just hope he isn't delusional.

There were a lot of Melbourne players pointing fingers and minding grass against Essendon. That sort of weak effort should not acceptable.

4 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

I thought that was good. He sounds confident

He is not panicking (not there anyway)

I have to say he is very convincing. I’m drinking the cool-aid, knowing it’s cool-aid but liking the taste and wanting more.

What is wrong with me!

3 minutes ago, GS_1905 said:

I have to say he is very convincing. I’m drinking the cool-aid, knowing it’s cool-aid but liking the taste and wanting more.

What is wrong with me!

Yeah I’m in the same boat. I want to believe this is the (horrific) “growing pains” of a new gameplan that we can see glimpses of occasionally.

But then I go back to the fact that so many of the players don’t seem to be giving much effort...which can’t be explained away by “growing pains.”

33 minutes ago, Supreme_Demon said:

For those interested, here is Simon Goodwin's latest press conference.

Make of it what you will. He believes he is confident things can be turned around. Unfortunately, as the losses mount, time will be against him.

‘Leadership group being United as I’ve ever seen them. They’re connected off field better than they’ve ever been.’

Yeah… If I’ve learned anything over the last few years, it’s that anytime someone from the club says something is the ‘best ever’, I immediately know there’s issues with that thing.

The issues for Simon Goodwin to solve are far deeper than just improving the team and getting a few wins under the belt. For starters the lack of efficiency inside 50 coupled with a poor forward line remains unsolved after 3 years or so. How does he suddenly solve that dilemma? And that's only one of a number of key issues. Don't think so my son. That's too big for you now. Move on and quit while you're ahead. Time for change.

I felt buoyed when I heard him speak today but I've also seen our last five games. Four of which were extraordinarily bad.

41 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

I thought that was good. He sounds confident

He is not panicking (not there anyway)

Well, he's staying calm. But also urgent...

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2 minutes ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

I felt buoyed when I heard him speak today but I've also seen our last five games. Four of which were extraordinarily bad.

Same. I felt buoyed the last few weeks when he looked so confident, and spoke of just a few small thing turning for the tide to change.

But the things he's saying are really basic. Is it all really in the defence? It's part of it, sure, but really? And what's this talk of how it's apparent we're down on pressure lol. How would that not be obvious in watching our games or even reading up on stats post game?

But yeah, I feel I am getting sucked into the buoyancy. Again. lol

Feels like we're going to be hearing about the third quarter for years.

5 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Th first part is what Lewis described Yze brought to the club.

Goodwin may not be saying ignore that option at all but he may be training/playing for territory in the front half.

He does seem more preoccupied with owning territory...than the ball. It's his shtick ;)

1 minute ago, KozzyCan said:

Feels like we're going to be hearing about the third quarter for years.

3rd quarter of 2021 granny. It was legendary

5 minutes ago, BDA said:

3rd quarter of 2021 granny. It was legendary

Now it's all about the third quarter against a battling Essendon side in a game we got comfortably beaten in. Oh how the mighty have fallen.

19 minutes ago, Red But Mostly Blue said:

Same. I felt buoyed the last few weeks when he looked so confident, and spoke of just a few small thing turning for the tide to change.

But the things he's saying are really basic. Is it all really in the defence? It's part of it, sure, but really? And what's this talk of how it's apparent we're down on pressure lol. How would that not be obvious in watching our games or even reading up on stats post game?

But yeah, I feel I am getting sucked into the buoyancy. Again. lol

He's talking like this is just the gravitational slingshot that will propel us on to Mars when we've all just witnessed us implode on the launchpad.

Goody has definitely got better at press conferences. He doesn't scratch his leg obsessively anymore and he does sound confident

trouble is saying it and the players hearing it are 2 totally different things

looks to me like the messaging just isn't getting through anymore. I know change doesn't happen overnight, but this game plan was worked on last year and this pre season. If it hasn't come together at this stage, the likelihood of everything clicking is far less.

Time for change

7 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

I was impressed the Yze example. A big reason for our 2021 success.

Not so sure. I accidentally watched the last quarter of the 21 GF when it came up on a feed, and there's a LOT of get ball bomb ball I50 from the usual suspects.

Huge difference is what happened after that, with Brown and McDonald being able to either mark or make a contest of it, letting the others get to work.

From what I can see, the Yze approach added another string to the bow, I don't think it was a whole new bow. Could be wrong.

4 hours ago, Demon Dynasty said:

And if my memory is correct, that's when Lewis jumped in and mentioned that under Yze they were def instructed to look to get it to outside runners / receivers (if free) by hand.

Other way round, Buckley was responding to Lewis.

Brown then added his comments about the difference between clearance under pressure or not, and that it's the latter that counts.

1 hour ago, BDA said:

3rd quarter of 2021 granny. It was legendary

The second half of it anyway…….and then all of the 4th. A complete domination.

Better to be a has been than a never was.

27 minutes ago, BDA said:

this game plan was worked on last year and this pre season.

Not enough time.

And there's a limit to what you can do with changing a game plan without there being a real change in the people who have to implement it, i.e., the list. You want more outside run? You don't try and turn your inside bulls into outside runners, you bring outside runners into the club.

The draftees we've got in will help accelerate the process, but it's going to be a rough year.

8 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

I was impressed the Yze example. A big reason for our 2021 success.

Buckley also said it looks a coaching instruction to kick it long to i50 from a clearance. That makes sense as not all players would bomb it long all the time!

If so its no surprise players are confused: do they 'use the space' and HB ala Yze methond or do they kick long i50.

Jones, Radford and Goodwin need get their message clear. It is no wonder we scored 1 pt from 16 clearances on Saturday

They can kick long but for God's sake at least kick long to a teammates advantage! And coach to create space in the forward 50 for the forwards to work in. Kicking it long on top of a forwards head who is wrestling with his opponent is never gonna succeed.

2 hours ago, BoBo said:

‘Leadership group being United as I’ve ever seen them. They’re connected off field better than they’ve ever been.’

Yeah… If I’ve learned anything over the last few years, it’s that anytime someone from the club says something is the ‘best ever’, I immediately know there’s issues with that thing.

Exactly. Just more spin. How much dribble do people have to listen to before results do the talking....

50 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Not so sure. I accidentally watched the last quarter of the 21 GF when it came up on a feed, and there's a LOT of get ball bomb ball I50 from the usual suspects.

Huge difference is what happened after that, with Brown and McDonald being able to either mark or make a contest of it, letting the others get to work.

From what I can see, the Yze approach added another string to the bow, I don't think it was a whole new bow. Could be wrong.

I agree it wasn't another string not a new bow. The context of the Lewis comment was Yze added another way to move the ball out of CB clearances. Implemented beautifully in the 3rd qtr of the 2021 GF.

Somehow we have lost that string that Yze added.

Good, professional teams are ruthless.

Read today about the Denver Nuggets sacking of their 18 year title winning coach and their

Basically their relationship was toxic and split the team and staff into two. The owner sacked both so no one camp would be seen as a winner.

This is just one relationship between 2 people and it fractured the whole team made the place miserable.

Shows how delicate a teams morale can be and the numerous relationships etc that can influence an organisations culture.

6 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

They can kick long but for God's sake at least kick long to a teammates advantage! And coach to create space in the forward 50 for the forwards to work in. Kicking it long on top of a forwards head who is wrestling with his opponent is never gonna succeed.

Kicking long and high would make sense if it was Gawn, May, or maybe Lever forward as he reads the flight so well.